West ham could still qualify for the champions league as long as they pick up 7 points from their last 3 games because liverpool could easily lose to united and Leicester may easily only end up picking up 1 more point from their remaining games.
Top 4 race / race abandoned (or maybe not) / Leicester & Chelsea in the process of bottling it
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Yeah I think we continue half rotating all the way to the end now, except the two finals.
*Manchester United has left the chat*So do I
Not much better than Hodgson at Liverpool. True legend.He was such a great manager for Utd, I miss him.
Nah, Leicester are the only hope to prevent the Dippers now.
Manchester City and Manchester United have qualified for the Champions League.
Fixtures from the others
3rd. Chelsea (GP 35, Pts 64, GD +23) - max points 73
12th May: Arsenal (h)
18th May: Leicester City (h)
23rd May: Aston Villa (a)
4th. Leicester City (GP 35, Pts 63, GD +20) - max points 72
11th May: Manchester United (a)
18th May: Chelsea (a)
23rd May: Tottenham Hotspur (h)
5th. West Ham United (GP 35, Pts 58, GD +10) - max points 67
15th May: Brighton & Hove Albion (a)
19th May: West Bromwich Albion (a)
23rd May: Southampton (h)
6th. Liverpool (GP 34, Pts 57, GD +18) - max points 69
13th May: Manchester United (a)
16th May: West Bromwich Albion (a)
19th May: Burnley (a)
23rd May: Crystal Palace (h)
7th. Tottenham Hotspur (GP 35, Pts 56, GD +20) - max points 65
16th May: Wolverhampton Wanderers (h)
19th May: Aston Villa (h)
23rd May: Leicester City (a)
8th. Everton (GP 34, Pts 55, GD +4) - max points 67
13th May: Aston Villa (a)
16th May: Sheffield United (h)
19th May: Wolverhampton Wanderers (h)
23rd May: Manchester City (a)
With West Ham's results against Chelsea and Everton, they're almost out of it, but their remaining games are doable. Chelsea are pretty much there, with I think everyone expecting the last place to be between Leicester City and Liverpool - Liverpool favourites due to Leicester City's remaining games.
The Liverpool game being postponed has actually helped Leicester City, as they'll surely be facing our second string.
Fixtures from the others
3rd. Chelsea (GP 35, Pts 64, GD +23) - max points 73
12th May: Arsenal (h)
18th May: Leicester City (h)
23rd May: Aston Villa (a)
4th. Leicester City (GP 35, Pts 63, GD +20) - max points 72
11th May: Manchester United (a)
18th May: Chelsea (a)
23rd May: Tottenham Hotspur (h)
5th. West Ham United (GP 35, Pts 58, GD +10) - max points 67
15th May: Brighton & Hove Albion (a)
19th May: West Bromwich Albion (a)
23rd May: Southampton (h)
6th. Liverpool (GP 34, Pts 57, GD +18) - max points 69
13th May: Manchester United (a)
16th May: West Bromwich Albion (a)
19th May: Burnley (a)
23rd May: Crystal Palace (h)
7th. Tottenham Hotspur (GP 35, Pts 56, GD +20) - max points 65
16th May: Wolverhampton Wanderers (h)
19th May: Aston Villa (h)
23rd May: Leicester City (a)
8th. Everton (GP 34, Pts 55, GD +4) - max points 67
13th May: Aston Villa (a)
16th May: Sheffield United (h)
19th May: Wolverhampton Wanderers (h)
23rd May: Manchester City (a)
With West Ham's results against Chelsea and Everton, they're almost out of it, but their remaining games are doable. Chelsea are pretty much there, with I think everyone expecting the last place to be between Leicester City and Liverpool - Liverpool favourites due to Leicester City's remaining games.
The Liverpool game being postponed has actually helped Leicester City, as they'll surely be facing our second string.
So if we win 1 more, we’re guaranteed 2nd?
Might as well rest everyone for Leicester to ensure that 1 win is against liverpool
Might as well rest everyone for Leicester to ensure that 1 win is against liverpool
Yeah, need to allow a Leicester win then not loose to the Dippers.
We'll draw Liverpool but win the rest.
Chelsea will draw Leicester.
Liverpool win their remaining 3.
United 80
Chelsea 71
Liverpool 67
Expecting Westham to win out is a big task and it will be required for Liverpool to miss out on top4 unless we drop points to Leicester and Liverpool.
Chelsea will draw Leicester.
Liverpool win their remaining 3.
United 80
Chelsea 71
Liverpool 67
Expecting Westham to win out is a big task and it will be required for Liverpool to miss out on top4 unless we drop points to Leicester and Liverpool.
Chelsea and Liverpool will get it. Leicester and West Ham have absolutely blown it. Such a shame.
We need to score a load of own goals vs Leicester. Or copy the Japanese team that all played in binoculars that time.
Leicester is a prefect opportunity for the U23 or U18 teams to get some real minutes.
One more win and we’re at the same points tally as Chelsea’s. So we arent guaranteed to be precise, but 99%
Cannot believe that they (Leicester and West Ham) have bottle it.
Nailed on Chelsea and Liverpool.
Nailed on Chelsea and Liverpool.
Liverpool couldn't have wished for a more perfect final 3 games. Jammy bastards.
My son was telling me there is an online plea for more Man Utd protesting at the Liverpool game? Wouldn’t that be flirting with point deduction if it disrupts another match?
Asking if this type of thing has happened in the past?
Asking if this type of thing has happened in the past?
Pool will get 10 more points. Leicester will get 4 more meaning pool get 4th on goal difference.
Actually what happens if United win Europa and obviously it will be City or Chelsea for CL, does that mean 5th place qualifies or has that been done away with?
Actually what happens if United win Europa and obviously it will be City or Chelsea for CL, does that mean 5th place qualifies or has that been done away with?
Done away with. Max 4 CL spots.
Its a strange one to be honest. Can you really punish the club for the actions of lots of fans? Like its more down to the police to marshall it in a way that the game isn't disrupted. Considering they are protesting against the owners then any plea from the club won't make a difference at all. In a way there is nothing that Manchester United can really do to stop the protests disrupting the game again. So a points reduction would be harsh on Ole and the players. However I definitely see your point of view. Like what do the PL do if the game is disrupted again realistically?
Thanks, was just checking it there. Think if Cheksea finished 5th and won CL then it would be 5 teams, same for united but chelsea will finish in top 4 as will united so it will only be 4.
Chelsea really should rest players against Arsenal for the final. The recent results should provide a decent cushion
I would save Mount, or limit his minutes so he is fresh. Save Silva and Azpi. Arsenal is slow. Put in Giroud or Tammy.
I would keep Alonso, Gilmour and James in the team. The front 3, whoever is picked, should be strong without mount. Silva and Azpi of course need a rest
Werner shouldn't be in the squad. Let him rest for the final.
Mount already got rested
I think next Tuesday at the absolute latest, will see us in guaranteed 2nd. Realistic worst case scenario is a loss v Leicester and a draw v Liverpool (or vice versa), which would mean a win v a likely already relegated Fulham would put us unassailably 2nd.
I agree about Mount, but pull him at 60 or 70.
The one player who needs to be wrapped in cotton wool the most right now is azpi. Especially after Andreas got injured. He's worked his arse off in all these big games he needs the rest.
Azpi has looked absolutely spent at the end in his last two outings. I worry about injuries when they get that spent.
If Chelsea falls out of top 4 but win the CL, only top 3 in the league will qualify (since we are guaranteed top 4)
I think Liverpool are getting 4th
Southgate picks Chilwell - proof he’s better than Shaw.
Southgate picks Maguire - train wreck.
I like this guy, he’s consistent.
Have a feeling Liverpool will pip Leicester. Hope me can out a nail in their coffin.
Incorrect top 4 would still qualify along with Chelsea . Maximum 5 teams are allowed to qualify from one country only in case if Europa league winner and Champions league come from same same country and both aren't in top 4 in their league, then fourth place team misses out.
Ahh, thanks
usually you have to at least find different posts to see that level of ‘consistency’. Pretty special to find it in two sentences.Southgate picks Chilwell - proof he’s better than Shaw.
Southgate picks Maguire - train wreck.
I like this guy, he’s consistent.
United
Leichester D
Liverpool D
Fulham W
Wolves D
Final points 76
Chelsea
Arsenal W
Leichester W
Villa W
Final points 73
Leichester
United D
Chelsea L
Spurs D
Final poins 65
West Ham
Brighton W
WBA W
Soton D
Final points 65
Liverpool
United D
WBA W
Burnley W
Palace W
Final points 67
Chelsea should be safe in 3rd, unless Liverpool completely bottle it in their last few games im pretty sure they will take 4th. Leichester look terrible at the moment and only have tough games remaining. Moyes bottled it vs Everton
Leichester D
Liverpool D
Fulham W
Wolves D
Final points 76
Chelsea
Arsenal W
Leichester W
Villa W
Final points 73
Leichester
United D
Chelsea L
Spurs D
Final poins 65
West Ham
Brighton W
WBA W
Soton D
Final points 65
Liverpool
United D
WBA W
Burnley W
Palace W
Final points 67
Chelsea should be safe in 3rd, unless Liverpool completely bottle it in their last few games im pretty sure they will take 4th. Leichester look terrible at the moment and only have tough games remaining. Moyes bottled it vs Everton
No, we need 4 points, otherwise it's on GD if Chelsea win all of theirs. Although we do have a fair bit of margin versus Chelsea in our GD, it's not entirely certain if we lose 3 games and Chelsea win 3.
That could still be 5 teams though tight?
Is it just me or do Leicester always have the toughest fixtures at the end?
The fixtures left for Leicester, they must be praying we field a weak team tomorrow because those fixtures are awful.
Looking at Liverpool as well I can see them taking the maximum from the fixtures other than against us.
Looking at Liverpool as well I can see them taking the maximum from the fixtures other than against us.
The way Leicester are playing, I'd doubt they'd even fancy their chances against our second team. Nervous bunch.