Transfer Anti-Wishlist

Silas

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Plenty of threads already about who we all want/are linked with. How about the players we've been linked with that you don't want, and why? Will be fun to revisit once next season is underway.

A few from me to kick off:
  • Wharton. Seems to be really good at one aspect of midfield play (counter-attack through balls) and a bit average at everything else. Would need his midfield partner to do a hell of a lot to add balance.
  • Palmer. Has injury concerns and we don't need to spend more money on an additional RW. Not convinced about him as a Bruno successor either, and not entirely sure we should even persist with the pure #10 position after Bruno. Also likely to cost a bomb.
  • Joao Gomes. As a 4th option, maybe I'd come around to it, but the idea of replacing Ugarte with what’s maybe a slight improvement doesn't sit well with me. The argument that he fits the age profile and is good value is the same argument that people were making for Delap last summer. We need to steer clear of average passers in midfield. Predictably, they end up as weak points for the opposition to expose.
  • Baleba. Unless available for a true bargain price (which I don’t see Brighton agreeing to unless they’ve lost faith in him), it feels pretty ridiculous to splash out on him after what he’s served up this season. I’m not sure where the confidence that he’ll suddenly regain his form comes from either. Feels like a toss up to me -- could work out (and I’d love it to), but I’m heavily cautious.
 
Archie Gray. Just too poor on the ball to play for a top team.
 
Gomes - simply don’t think that he’s good enough. Doesn’t raise the bar at all. What’s the point in spending 40m on someone that doesn’t raise the bar?

Baleba - massive red flags now. Not United flags. Warning flags. Out of form all season? Or shite? Or not pulling his weight? Im inclined to believe it’s somewhere between A and B. He looks like he can’t pass water

Creswell - thankfully Maguire signed a new deal because this lanky streak of piss isn’t good enough. He’s a feckin lamppost

Godts - The speed merchant from Amsterdam. Dutch league, haven’t we been burned enough? Hes not recommended by Ajax fans as hes wildly inconsistent for them

Stiller - highly rated but have 2 concerns, lack of pace and the fact that he’s coming from the German league
 
Tonali - as a 3rd midfielder at a good price after getting two main midfielders in, sure. Not at all for the absurd fees being bandied about.

Skelly - pointless.

Gomes - not good enough.

More to add as they’re touted.
 
As already mentioned above....Wharton, Stiller & Gomes.
I just don't see any of them being the right player for our Midfield, or being able to raise us in the same way as Cunha & Mbuemo have.

Baleba?
It's anyone's guess, which version you'd get.
Wouldn't be a bad option if we could get him on a season long loan deal .... :lol:
 
I'm not keen on most of the players we've been rumoured to be interested in. We need technical players that have the close control to play in tight spaces alongside the ability to shield the ball when pressed, and wide players who can actually dribble.

If we want to get back to the level Madrid and Bayern showed the other night, we need more than players who can play a nice pass but don't have the aforementioned qualities like Wharton and Tonali.
 
golden_blunder said:
Gomes - simply don’t think that he’s good enough. Doesn’t raise the bar at all. What’s the point in spending 40m on someone that doesn’t raise the bar?

Baleba - massive red flags now. Not United flags. Warning flags. Out of form all season? Or shite? Or not pulling his weight? Im inclined to believe it’s somewhere between A and B. He looks like he can’t pass water

Creswell - thankfully Maguire signed a new deal because this lanky streak of piss isn’t good enough. He’s a feckin lamppost

Godts - The speed merchant from Amsterdam. Dutch league, haven’t we been burned enough? Hes not recommended by Ajax fans as hes wildly inconsistent for them

Stiller - highly rated but have 2 concerns, lack of pace and the fact that he’s coming from the German league
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On Baleba - he's either a one season wonder or he's dropped his head mentally because he didn't get the move he wanted last summer. Either way not really impressed by him.
 
Baleba - He's a prospect sure but at the price he would cost we need more than that, also he's not coming off a good season of form

Palmer - Not a priority, shite hair, costly and a spotty injury record this season
 
Tonali and Guimaraes.

Tonali will be way too expensive and no guarantees the betting stuff won’t come up again. Also just don’t think he’s as good as it seems. Been average this season.

Guimaraes is 29 this year and will be quite expensive to boot.
 
Yagami said:
I'm not keen on most of the players we've been rumoured to be interested in. We need technical players that have the close control to play in tight spaces alongside the ability to shield the ball when pressed, and wide players who can actually dribble.

If we want to get back to the level Madrid and Bayern showed the other night, we need more than players who can play a nice pass but don't have the aforementioned qualities like Wharton and Tonali.
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Wharton shouldn’t be lumped in with Tonali there - what makes you think he can’t play combination football?
 
Skelly
Palmer
Wharton
Tonali
Mateta

I want elite athletes, no players that eat at chippys like Palmer (no more Luke Shaws). Tonali isn't fast, Mateta isn't quick, Wharton isn't the most mobile CM.

Much rather we go for Baleba, Guimaraes, Ignacio and Upamecano types.

We need to continue the good buys like Cunha, Mbuemo, Dorgu and Yoro, who have top potential.

PSG are at the top and it's no coincidence they have Pacho, Mendes and Hakimi in defence. Or Ruiz with his ball playing ability at 6 foot 4 height.

Tall wingers too in Kvara and Barcola. The best teams like City, Arsenal and PSG are huge and can play. We need to continue signing that type of player who can compete physically and technically.
 
Overhaul FC said:
Skelly
Palmer
Wharton
Tonali
Mateta

I want elite athletes, no players that eat at chippys like Palmer (no more Luke Shaws). Tonali isn't fast, Mateta isn't quick, Wharton isn't the most mobile CM.

Much rather we go for Baleba, Guimaraes, Ignacio and Upamecano types.

We need to continue the good buys like Cunha, Mbuemo, Dorgu and Yoro, who have top potential.

PSG are at the top and it's no coincidence they have Pacho, Mendes and Hakimi in defence. Or Ruiz with his ball playing ability at 6 foot 4 height.

Tall wingers too in Kvara and Barcola. The best teams like City, Arsenal and PSG are huge and can play. We need to continue signing that type of player who can compete physically and technically.
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You know these elite athletes will also eat and smoke right? Just not in excess.
 
Joao Gomes - spoken at length about him already in his own thread. He's arguably not even the best CM at the worst team in the league. Very limited player. Already 25 with little room for improvement. Ugarte mk 2, at best.

Tonali - Flatters to deceive. An inconsistent and often sloppy highlights player, who struggles to really control games and influence them consistently, despite his energy.

Stiller - The German Wharton. Too slow and weak, but with less time and ability to adapt in future.

Lewis-Skelly - Too limited. Zero passing range. I'd rather a LB who can bomb forwards and put in a decent cross. Or otherwise a Luke Shaw/Calafiori/LCB-type (eg Schlotterbeck) as an option to add some defensive solidity and extra ability from set-pieces. Signing MLS solves none of United's problems, and only blocks their ability from bringing in the more needed profiles. It also helps Arsenal with the final summer of current PSR rules.

I'm not going to 100% write off Palmer and Baleba yet. They've shown quality in the past and they may have mitigating circumstances. There's too much I'm unaware of that I can't rule them out becoming very good again in future, even though they'd be very high risk this summer based on current form. I've softened a bit on Wharton as well, but only if he'd come in as a squad option, not the marquee signing to partner Mainoo.
 
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Wharton - he’s exactly the sort of player you don’t buy from a midtable Premier League team. By no means a bad player but the fee you would have pay is something he could never live up to.

Baleba - he’s not even good enough for Brighton but that wouldn’t be reflected in the price. Buy an alternative from a Ligue 1 for half the price or less. He might turn it round but can’t be a serious option at the moment.

Stiller - again a decent player but he would struggle physically which is a weakness we have in general so we shouldn’t be signing more of the same.

Someone like Fernandes at West Ham is head and shoulders above all of these and I’d even have him ahead of Tonali as well as he’d be a lot cheaper. Alex Scott is another player we should consider if we want players from the Premier League over likes of Wharton and Baleba.

Gomes from Wolves I just completely dismiss as I don’t see any reason why we would consider signing him.
 
Godts and Gomes. I would be fuming if these deals would be made, but I have faith in the board after last summer.
 
Overhaul FC said:
Skelly
Palmer
Wharton
Tonali
Mateta

I want elite athletes, no players that eat at chippys like Palmer (no more Luke Shaws). Tonali isn't fast, Mateta isn't quick, Wharton isn't the most mobile CM.

Much rather we go for Baleba, Guimaraes, Ignacio and Upamecano types.

We need to continue the good buys like Cunha, Mbuemo, Dorgu and Yoro, who have top potential.

PSG are at the top and it's no coincidence they have Pacho, Mendes and Hakimi in defence. Or Ruiz with his ball playing ability at 6 foot 4 height.

Tall wingers too in Kvara and Barcola. The best teams like City, Arsenal and PSG are huge and can play. We need to continue signing that type of player who can compete physically and technically.
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Tonali isn’t what??
 
None of those mentioned would come close to the disappointment of hearing that we had signed Mount. And even that didn't match up to the feeling of disgust when Ferguson signed M****** O***.

Just keep on with the recruitment improvements and hope for a functioning CM.
 
StamsShinyHead said:
Baleba seems like a disaster every time I see him. Really don't want him here if he's not mentally strong enough to get over a failed transfer.
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This is the biggest one.

Don’t want him and I really can’t see why we are interested. The fact that no one else wants him should be a massive reg flag.

Anyone who is injury prone. Just no.
 
buckooo1978 said:
for what reasons out of interest
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Quoting my self from Rogers Thread


Not good enough nor the profile for the Clubs expected to dominate and take initiative for most of their games .

United shouldn't go anywhere near him even if price is reasonable , we already have plenty of players who excel in transitional football .

Need to add more rounded players who can help in breaking teams down and creating chances by retaining the ball better in final third , grinding them down with constant pressure not just relying on transitional and counter attacking football
 
pcaming said:
Didn't realise being fast in midfield was a requirement, but he is very mobile so this is wrong.

His price and wages are the only negatives against Tonali, he would definitely improve us.
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If Casemiro was fast, we wouldn't be letting him leave for free.
 
Any and every 10. We already have too many
Wharton - I could live with the fairly mediocre off the ball play if his passing was genuinely elite but it just doesn't looks that good when i've watched him. Spurs level player.
Gomes - Not at the level needed. Just wouldn't get on the pitch anywhere near enough and would probably be a bit rusty and bad when he did.
 
Fun thread.

I'd say Morgan for 80m for sure. I've been a Balebar but at the price Brighton want I'd say no. I'm also not sure about Tonali for 80m, but more sure than the other two. Lewis-Skelly as a left-back I'm also not sure of. We're obviously not signing Palmer for an astronomical fee, but I'll include him too.

Solius said:
Tonali and Guimaraes.

Tonali will be way too expensive and no guarantees the betting stuff won’t come up again. Also just don’t think he’s as good as it seems. Been average this season.

Guimaraes is 29 this year and will be quite expensive to boot.
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I know it's not super logical to sign Guimaraes, but I just think he'd elevate the collective so much (assuming we sign an outstanding athlete next to him) that I would definitely sign him if possible.
 
Overhaul FC said:
Tonali is not fast.

Anderson > Baleba > Tonali

There's no way he's faster than the other players were linked with for CDM.
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Anderson is nowhere near as quick as Baleba. Baleba is uniquely rapid for his position.

Anderson and Tonali is much of a muchness pace wise. Tonali is probably a little quicker if anyone is.
 
The thing with Baleba is, if the sheer prospect of playing for United has thrown him off his game, how's he gonna handle actually putting on the red shirt!?
 
Palmer, though likely to be very expensive, could be good for you in a year's time, but this summer makes no sense whatsoever, especially considering that virtually every other position is more pressing.

You've had some mentally weak characters in recent years so if Baleba has been demotivated by not getting a move last summer, then that's surely a colossal red flag, especially as he's likely to be expensive. Don't think he's sufficiently proven to be splashing massive cash on, Wharton neither

If you can't get Anderson for your midfield, then I think you're better relying on good scouting to buy two or three at lesser prices, probably from abroad.
 
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