Transfer Anti-Wishlist

I agree but who? The sentiment is right but we need names, out of curiosity.

No idea. I do like Anderson, and for me he’s a purchase at any price if he’s happy to come, especially given the absence of obvious alternatives.

The others (Wharton/Baleba/Tonali) I’d be a hard pass on, largely for the reasons covered above. I’d be happy to look at other names as they’re put forward.

Anderson, a 21-22 year old prospect, and a leftfield opportunistic signing will probably be enough for our aspirations next season. Keep the cash and see what come around next season.
 
Well that's why I said 'you pray it's misdirection' and if it is, excellent.

We can't possibly be watching the best teams in Europe playing such impressively cohesive football and thinking this is the calibre of player that gets us challenging for the league or that would make us comfortable against the higher echelon in the CL.

If our aspirations are only to qualify for the CL, do little in it and chase vapour at the top end of our own league, OK. But the players we're mostly being linked to - for fortunes - are not going to come here and raise the bar significantly enough to be worth such outrageous outlay.

£80m being thrown around like confetti when we're linked -- that should be landing you Bellingham from Dortmund quality not these middling players we're mostly being linked to.

I just hope the top brass have a plan that has us bring in appropriate talent for the price because most of what we're being linked to is massively underwhelming and will cost a small fortune to compound matters. This is a really pivotal window for us and our margins for errors are small - we can't be anchored by Ugarte's so it's imperative we get it right.
Exactly this. The numbers being thrown out for the likes of Tonali.... We should be getting a young star for anything over 60-65M.
 
paying what newcastle will assuredly want for Tonali is a terrible idea.

paying what brighton will assuredly want for Baleba is a terrible idea.
 
Baleba.

Can't even get in the Brighton starting line-up anymore after a very poor season. We shouldn't even be thinking of this lowering his transfer value significantly. I wouldn't even risk £30m on him now.
 
Baleba.

Can't even get in the Brighton starting line-up anymore after a very poor season. We shouldn't even be thinking of this lowering his transfer value significantly. I wouldn't even risk £30m on him now.

The muppet in me is saying "it's all a ruse to get Brighton to sell" :lol:
 
Baleba.

Can't even get in the Brighton starting line-up anymore after a very poor season. We shouldn't even be thinking of this lowering his transfer value significantly. I wouldn't even risk £30m on him now.

Have to agree with this.
 
Baleba definitely unless we get him on the cheap and definitely not as the primary 6.
Tonali as well, his history doesn't seem good tbh with leaving clubs. Woulds rather look at Alex Scott.
 
Baleba definitely unless we get him on the cheap and definitely not as the primary 6.
Tonali as well, his history doesn't seem good tbh with leaving clubs. Woulds rather look at Alex Scott.
What do you consider to be on the cheap?
 
James Garner
Let’s sign a Meh player then get mad when we don’t improve
 
Surprised to see Godts being mentioned here a couple of times, as I think he is a very big talent. His dribbling is top notch, and he can score and assist. Might be better suites for Spain though and is still somewhat inconsistent (what 20yo isn't though)
 
Tchouameni. Anyone Madrid would be willing to part with going into their prime years of their career is a red flag.
 
Tchouameni. Anyone Madrid would be willing to part with going into their prime years of their career is a red flag.
Often, but not always. Hakimi, Odegaard, Navas, Llorente, Theo Hernandez, Kovacic have all been moved on in the last decade and gone on to generally do very well for new teams. Going further back, you've got Makelele, Robben, Ozil, Di Maria etc who all became world class after Madrid binned them off.

Sometimes Perez just goes mental and gets rid of a current player because he wants the shiny new toy, whether it's the right decision or not.
 
James Garner
Let’s sign a Meh player then get mad when we don’t improve
I agree - amazed at the noise around him. I was actually against selling him at the time and thought he'd eventually become a decent squad option in time but confused as to why we'd bring him back now.
 
Just seen our links to Van de Ven... Not sure there's anything remarkable about him other than his pace and ball-carrying ability. When it comes to actual defending, I ain't convinced.
 
I agree - amazed at the noise around him. I was actually against selling him at the time and thought he'd eventually become a decent squad option in time but confused as to why we'd bring him back now.

He would still be a decent squad player, but not at £50m, and the player would not want that anyway. He’s excelling where he is, but not the right player for us.
 
So don't want experienced backup to Sesko then?
Not someone in their early 30's, no.

I don't really buy this odd obsession in bringing in some a old-timer forward. No other top club in this country seems to do it other than us.

We bring in a forward, I want them between 24-28. Someone in their prime.
Plus, Sesko should continue being the back up/ rotation player.
 
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Not someone in their early 30's, no.

I don't really buy this odd obsession in bringing in some a old-timer forward. No other top club in this country seems to do it other than us.

We bring in a forward, I want them between 24-28. Someone in their prime.
Plus, Sesko should continue being the back up/ rotation player.
Doesn't that wording experienced striker in article tell you they clearly see Sesko as the main one. I can tell you think that's the wrong decision which is understandable, so who would you like to sign to lead line then?
 
Often, but not always. Hakimi, Odegaard, Navas, Llorente, Theo Hernandez, Kovacic have all been moved on in the last decade and gone on to generally do very well for new teams. Going further back, you've got Makelele, Robben, Ozil, Di Maria etc who all became world class after Madrid binned them off.

Sometimes Perez just goes mental and gets rid of a current player because he wants the shiny new toy, whether it's the right decision or not.

Sneijder, Higuain, Morata
 
Have to disagree with this. He would be a great squad player. One of the few Spurs plus points this season.
Agree hes been playing in defence most of the time due to injuries...hes actually really oress resistant and good on ball in cm, just hasnt had the oppprtunities to play there...wouldnt sign him as dont think what we need and prefer Bergvall at Spurs....but post you redponding too also totally disagree with the opinion
 
I agree - amazed at the noise around him. I was actually against selling him at the time and thought he'd eventually become a decent squad option in time but confused as to why we'd bring him back now.
Agree looked very promising as a youth here and developed into a good player now at Everton....no disrespect to them, but thats level...doesnt start for top 6 side
 
Baleba is the obvious one at thus point, but I can hardly imagine any team would currently come close to offering the fee Brighton wants..

Camavinga is another one.. He looks wild and unpolished and needs composer reliable players around him to thrive.. Not the profile we should be in for..

Diomande for the mentioned fee.. Electric player but we shouldnt break the bank for a right winger as with Mbeumo and Amad we have two players with rw as natural best position..
 
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Baleba is the obvious one at thus point, but I can hardly imagine any team would currently come close to offering the fee Brighton wants..

Camavinga is another one.. He looks wild and unpolished and needs composer reliable players around him to thrive.. Not the profile we should be in for..

Diomande for the mentioned fee.. Electric player but we shouldnt break the bank for a right winger as with Mbeumo and Amad we have two players with rw as natural best position..
IF we signed one of those composed players and they are out there would you still feel the same about Camavinga
 
I agree - amazed at the noise around him. I was actually against selling him at the time and thought he'd eventually become a decent squad option in time but confused as to why we'd bring him back now.

Because he's better than the midfielders we've been linked with :lol:
This is a really weird one

He has 6 assists and 2 goals for Everton, Rice has 4 assists and 5 goals for the team at the top of the table and he was £100 million and is their contender for player of the season

Garner wins the ball more, plays more forward passes and more progressive passes. He has 1 less combined goal and assist in the league this season despite vastly inferior players around him. Rice is more of a goal threat himself and Arsenal rely on his set pieces, even though he's set up less goals than Garner. Rice is better at dribbling, while Garner is better passing.

No offence but it just seems like you have no idea about the player
 
IF we signed one of those composed players and they are out there would you still feel the same about Camavinga

Well I wouldnt mind having him ofcourse, there is quality in there, but he is not the type of player we should prioritze, so that implicitely mean that I wouldnt think for us he is worth the money Madrid would want for him
 
Garner wins the ball more
Nope
plays more forward passes and more progressive passes
Nope
Rice is better at dribbling
Haha, debatable.
No offence but it just seems like you have no idea about the player
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Because he's better than the midfielders we've been linked with :lol:
This is a really weird one

He has 6 assists and 2 goals for Everton, Rice has 4 assists and 5 goals for the team at the top of the table and he was £100 million and is their contender for player of the season

Garner wins the ball more, plays more forward passes and more progressive passes. He has 1 less combined goal and assist in the league this season despite vastly inferior players around him. Rice is more of a goal threat himself and Arsenal rely on his set pieces, even though he's set up less goals than Garner. Rice is better at dribbling, while Garner is better passing.

No offence but it just seems like you have no idea about the player
Nothing weird about it, Rice is objectively a much better midfielder than Garner. Garner is having a good season, but let's be real, he's 25 and this is his first very good season.
 
Surprised to see Godts being mentioned here a couple of times, as I think he is a very big talent. His dribbling is top notch, and he can score and assist. Might be better suites for Spain though and is still somewhat inconsistent (what 20yo isn't though)
Im surprised that people actually think he’s good & physical enough to come to the level of United when the legs hanging out of birds nest have more meat on them
 
Nothing weird about it, Rice is objectively a much better midfielder than Garner. Garner is having a good season, but let's be real, he's 25 and this is his first very good season.

Rice is a better midfielder. He hasnt performed better in some ways. Thats why I made the comparison because he's a great example.
 
Anderson
Tchouameni
Palmer
Baleba
Lewis-Skelly
Tonali
Van de Ven
Wharton
Rogers
Ederson
Mane
Goretzka

A few of these are just price prohibitive but many are poor targets for multiple or even myriad reasons. Hope INEOS buck up their ideas this summer but not optimistic at the moment.
 
Anderson
Tchouameni
Palmer
Baleba
Lewis-Skelly
Tonali
Van de Ven
Wharton
Rogers
Ederson
Mane
Goretzka

A few of these are just price prohibitive but many are poor targets for multiple or even myriad reasons. Hope INEOS buck up their ideas this summer but not optimistic at the moment.
OK who are you putting in the poor targets category then if they work out can come back to this post again