Cold-called this guy to sell him car insurance way back when, seemed a real nice guy. Indulged not only a cold calling insurance salesman (we all make mistakes!), but an annoying barrage of football related questions.I hope he does well, he looked promising when he first began to break through at Southampton and then I remember his dad died and he went off the radar.
That’s not cheating. You just have to hope they struggle to pay back that money though.This shouldn’t be allowed. It’s blatantly cheating. If you don’t have the money you shouldn’t be buying the player.
They need to get serious about FFP.
I dunno. If Pallister was beating Giggs and Kanchelskis over 100 metres, he'd compare with anyone in the Premiership today. Giggs and Kanchelskis were like lightening.http://www.redcafe.net/threads/garry-pallister-quickest-player-saf-has-ever-worked-with.234214/
He was thought of as fast. It may be today that he wouldn't be, but at the time he certainly was.
Exactly. As I said, he wasn't slow, but he wasn't known for being fast either. I dunno,.maybe I have just forgotten, but when I look back all my memories of Gary P, were of him tackling, strong-arming, heading, out jumping, bringing the ball out from the back and setting play up, but never for his speed. Feck, I even have memories of Dennis skinning people, just not Gary.I dunno. If Pallister was beating Giggs and Kanchelskis over 100 metres, he'd compare with anyone in the Premiership today. Giggs and Kanchelskis were like lightening.
Haha that's a really random but pretty cool story, if true.Cold-called this guy to sell him car insurance way back when, seemed a real nice guy. Indulged not only a cold calling insurance salesman (we all make mistakes!), but an annoying barrage of football related questions.
Pochettino was there at the time and he thought he was the bees knees, said he was an amazing coach and found it funny how he pretended not to speak English just for the reporters.
Yeah, hope he does well.
Pally looking great at 18 seconds there. Didnt see that from him at United. Fergie would have probably went mad.Feck, I even have memories of Dennis skinning people, just not Gary.
Haha yup. He wouldn't buy the insurance until I spoke to his Mum who was sorting it for him. Must of been about 18 at the time and had the typically crazy high quotes.Haha that's a really random but pretty cool story, if true.
That’s not cheating man! It’s just a loan, we have a debt of over 400m last time I checked. Are we also cheating? What if the FFP made us pay off our entire debt at the same time? Most transfers these days are done in installments and if a club is asking for all the money up front then taking a loan is just another way to split up the payments. It makes sense.This shouldn’t be allowed. It’s blatantly cheating. If you don’t have the money you shouldn’t be buying the player.
They need to get serious about FFP.
Three years out of the CL will do that to you. Plus an owner who won't invest to change the status quo.Out of curiosity, why/how are arsenal so financially limited this season? I mean, if it's believed, 50 million kitty? Is the owner pocketing tv money or does Mike Ashley have a brother running arsenal?
Is this the one we had on loan in the reserves from that scammy Brazilian club a while back?Tweet
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Different guy I think, ex sporting player? Wonder what happened to those guys though, 3 of them I think right?Is this the one we had on loan in the reserves from that scammy Brazilian club a while back?
Out of nowhere! Great price for a potential gem. Wonder if he'll get games but then again he can play both lb & LCB so should be fineTweet
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We never had him on loan. He's a ex Sporting Lisbon youngster that is very highly rated and still only 20.Is this the one we had on loan in the reserves from that scammy Brazilian club a while back?
City were heavily linked to him.Weren’t City in for this lad before he left for Lille? Probably one of the interested clubs.
You need to look at the date of the tweet as this is an old one.
7 hours old. Summit posted a different tweet that was contradictory.You need to look at the date of the tweet as this is an old one.
EDIT: or maybe Summit put an old tweet in?
Ahh OK I get it now.7 hours old. Summit posted a different tweet that was contradictory.
Yeah I was confused at first too.Ahh OK I get it now.
FFP is there to stop clubs buying players they can't afford. Barca literally couldn't afford this clause. It's the textbook explanation for the rule even being brought in.That’s not cheating man! It’s just a loan, we have a debt of over 400m last time I checked. Are we also cheating? What if the FFP made us pay off our entire debt at the same time? Most transfers these days are done in installments and if a club is asking for all the money up front then taking a loan is just another way to split up the payments. It makes sense.
Not really. They can take loan and repay the payments without making loss.FFP is there to stop clubs buying players they can't afford. Barca literally couldn't afford this clause. It's the textbook explanation for the rule even being brought in.
It has to be paid back in 6 months though. Fans are confusing the accountant practice of paying fees over length of contract for tax purposes etc wth what really happens . A huge percentage of the fee is paid up front.Not really. They can take loan and repay the payments without making loss.
A loan could most simply a working capital/short term loan. Doesn't in any ways mean Barca can't afford. Just that they might not have Cash in hand immediately to pay up the fees.FFP is there to stop clubs buying players they can't afford. Barca literally couldn't afford this clause. It's the textbook explanation for the rule even being brought in.
I assume the overall fee (80m) is agreed, but payment structures and the breakdown isn't agreed, so we try and calm things down a bit.Stone poured cold water on the AWB and James deals as they gathered momentum too. Wonder why it happens, selling clubs Doing a PR job, perhaps ?
Why 6 months? They can take loan and have bit of debt, it's not a problem. All they have to pay is interest and installments every year.It has to be paid back in 6 months though. Fans are confusing the accountant practice of paying fees over length of contract for tax purposes etc wth what really happens . A huge percentage of the fee is paid up front.
Unless I'm way off the mark here.
The Barca president said it himself a few tweets up.Why 6 months? They can take loan and have bit of debt, it's not a problem. All they have to pay is interest and installments every year.
So good chance they will sell few players and repay it. As long as they won't be making loss more than what FFP states, then it shouldn't be a problem.The Barca president said it himself a few tweets up.
This info came from Barca.Why 6 months? They can take loan and have bit of debt, it's not a problem. All they have to pay is interest and installments every year.
So it's almost nothing money. They can sell most of their players and repay it. Without selling any player also they can make 35 million in 6 months and repay it.This info came from Barca.
Bartomeu said they needed a €35m short-term loan which was to be paid back in 6 months.
Who will they sell to recoup 120m? They seem to be spending money that hasn't come in yet and that's a dangerous road to go down.So good chance they will sell few players and repay it. As long as they won't be making loss more than what FFP states, then it shouldn't be a problem.
As far as I am aware FFP only relates to club profits, or in fact clubs making a loss. Repayments of loans doesn’t affect profit other than interest accrued. Barcelona taking out a loan to buy a player doesn’t have any FFP implications unless they got a really terrible interest rate or didn’t pay the loan back. In the grand scheme of things what Barcelona borrowed to buy Griezmann is relatively small.It has to be paid back in 6 months though. Fans are confusing the accountant practice of paying fees over length of contract for tax purposes etc wth what really happens . A huge percentage of the fee is paid up front.
Unless I'm way off the mark here.
He is weak in the air. He won't be solving any problems if he play with Lindelof. We will have 2 CBs who are weak in aerial duels.As someone who thinks Maguire is a good signing I have to admit that Diallo for £30m is a smarter one.
And it's not because Maguire is English that we are paying so much for him. It's because we waited until he had established himself as a top CB for his club and country before buying him. Leicester bought him the same week we bought Lindelof and paid half as much. He was cheap because Hull got relegated and he was intent on leaving, that creates value. Just as Dortmund signing Hummels and having too many CBs created value for PSG to buy Diallo.
They have shit loads of players to sell, it's not a problem. Without even selling anyone, it's not hard for them to make 35 million in 6 months. That's half year to make 3% of their revenue.Who will they sell to recoup 120m? They seem to be spending money that hasn't come in yet and that's a dangerous road to go down.
They already inflate their kit deals to bluff the public with rumours they couldn't pay wages on time last month
This particular loan in itself isn't a big deal but as cyberman says below there are concerning rumours about cashflow issues at Barca.So it's almost nothing money. They can sell most of their players and repay it. Without selling any player also they can make 35 million in 6 months and repay it.
Who will they sell to recoup 120m? They seem to be spending money that hasn't come in yet and that's a dangerous road to go down.
They already inflate their kit deals to bluff the public with rumours they couldn't pay wages on time last month
