If we get both Cunha and Mbeumo, that means that Garnacho/Mainoo will leave. You also need to take into account Amad's injury record, where he has missed 61 games since he signed for United. Comparison like, Cunha missed 20(way more games played), Mbeumo 19(1 injury only - regular starter). Amad is a phenomenal player, however, we need to be wary if we rely on him for a full season and he will be way more targeted now with tackles. On the other hand, Mbeumo and Cunha have a much better injury record.
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I'll tell you my choices right now without looking at the thread. Obviously if you can sign any of the big 3, you go for them. They're all amazing strikers. Assuming none are available and using Delap as the benchmark, I would say all of the following should be targeted before Delap, with Delap being the next best option:
Ekitike, David, Pavlidis, Sesko, Retegui, Marcus Thuram (might not be realistic). All of these players not only offer goals but have very good linkup play as well, which is important when you're playing with 10s who are also goal threats like Cunha/Mbeumo, Garnacho, Amad and Zirkzee. A massively important thing to consider is their actual attacking movement and positioning, since this is why Hojlund is so ineffective (his actual finishing ability is good), and this is a very difficult thing to consider with just stats (at least the ones you have on fbref, some of the paid dbs like Wyscout do have good stats for these). They all press really well too.
I've also only recently started following 22 y/o Emegha at Strasbourg over the last couple months, who I noticed was high in the European xg and xa charts. He is really impressive and has exploded since the turn of the year. Beyond scoring consistently, he also is crazy fast, tracks back and presses relentlessly. Looks a potentially great option.
Here's a very short analysis that was put up of him on the Ligue 1 channel:
There's also a short video they put up on Jonathan David, who should be available for free and has been a player I've wanted us to sign for years.
EDIT: They don't allow the vids to be posted on forums apparently but you can just click to watch on Youtube. They're only 2-3 mins each.
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Garnacho has 21 goal involvements this season at the age of just 20. Letting him go would be a terrible mistake imo and a major step backwards.
I like garnacho, but I don't think he will suit long term as our 10. I know he's 21 goal involvement. That's great. But I think as a 10 you've to see a pass,give and go etc. He's a winger,he likes to stand a man up and go outside etc. Ruben's about a system,if one part of the system is out of sync it don't work,utd of old garnacho would be shining light for yrs to come. Fergie would build him up,let him express himself. Ruben wants utd to move as a unit. Patterns etc. Plus garnacho might actually generate some funds for us. Him and mainoo are very good young players and I'd love them to stay,but ruben seems to be unsure. I do worry though if ruben sells off likes of garnacho and mainoo let's say. Then by Xmas if ruben is gone,then we've a squad with no wingers etc and we've sold one or two of our best academy products for a system that's dead in the water. Also I worry about Not getting into the champions league and about getting into the champions league,I'm a worrier, utd have me stressed.
Thanks for a thorough reply! To address some of your suggestions:
- Ekitike - is going to cost an absolute bomb going by Eintracht Frankfurt’s sales in recent years, and has been reported around the €100m mark. Also strongly linked to Liverpool. Although if he wanted to come and we could afford him, he would be my pick too. Looks exceptional
- David I haven’t been as convinced by. He’s decent, but by the sounds of things would ask for a very high wage. About the same level as Lacazette (which isn’t bad by any means). Probably the best shout on your list in my view
- I haven’t watched Pavlidis, what do you see in him that makes you think he can handle the step up? With Gyökeres it’s obvious, with Pavlidis I’d fear we’re getting something like a Darwin situation
- Sesko we’ve tried for multiple times. I think he has the attributes to become an absolute top-class striker in the coming years, but he doesn’t seem to want to come here.
- Retegui is having a good season, but his body of work before this doesn’t give you a ton of confidence. I’m also a little skeptical to dropping players from a well-oiled machinery like Atalanta into our hot mess and expecting them to perform. If he has exactly the attributes that fit the way Amorim wants to play and complements the type of attacks we tend to create, then sure.
- Thuram, as you note, is probably not very realistic and cost-prohibitive at this point
Edit: Wonder how much it would cost to get Joao Pedro out of Brighton?
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Wow! Crazy. How reliable is Sacha Tavolieri? Very impressed by recruitment at PSG the last couple of years, but it’s not obvious how he’d fit into our structure.
I'm guessing this is as a consultant, right? He does have his own consultancy firm that works with several other clubs elsewhere.
He's hit or miss. I'd wait for a more reliable journalist/outlet before I get excited.
Then I won’t whip out my schlong for this old goober just yet. Thanks
I agree on Jonathan David, even if he flops you can still sell him on in 2 years for a small profit.
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Interesting to see Romano didn't flatten it in the way that Jacobs did, just said no talks or negotiations with us
I doubt PSG will let him go, money is not a problem for them. It's just his way of getting a better new deal, by flirting with a few clubs. Same modus operandi as with Nuno Mendes' new deal.
Yeah he will be going nowhere sadly
Not sure why you think all these cheap 10s that you haven’t named would be any better
Because they'd be a ten and not a winger (rashers,garnacho,sancho)playing on a ten position or a striker playing in a 10 (zirkzee). So I'd say cunha ,amad ,bruno as an option as a 10 bit midfield too and a cheaper 10. 15m to 25m punt. Cherki is right down the middle at 20m,or chance a younger player for 4th option like nypan or the young lad at Leicester. But yeah you are right the options we have a great. On our minus goal difference. Let's keep playing wingers and strikers as behind the striker. And let's play wingers as wing back.
That one seems like a no brainer, mind you said the same about Thuram and we didn't bother either
Convenient that these stories always come out as we are about to play the team. It happened with Cherki, Cunha and now Mbeumo
But in all 3 cases it makes sense. Our interest in Cunha is well documented, Cheri is a player we also could need while playing for a team that needs to sell - and Mbeumo scores goals
I think the situation is very specific, I would ordinarily agree, but the bigger factor for most fans is that how many goal involvements should he have had? and those missed passes and shots are not from poor service just poor decision making! now can he improve that? probably especially with better players around him, but it is no guarantee, and when he does have better players around him we could not afford to carry a player who most of the time absolutely fluffs his lines when it comes to the final 3rd, add to that we need money to reinvest in the squad and what would or should be a keep him for a bit longer and try and develop him when there is not so much pressure on him, turns to we could effectively swap him for 2-3 players who will have a much more reliable output.
Why would we need anyone other than wilcox given he has done such a magnificent job to date
Anyone coming in at 15 mil these days isn’t likely to move the needle
I’m up for changing, just not up for spending money for the sake of it
we can rebuild on taking punts on players with bad injury records
Certainly a way to do it
They always pay off
I'd say you'd argue in a empty room bud. The rebuild is cunha etc. Then I said we should have a 3rd/4th choice 10 for 15 to 25m. Then you stated 15m sign don't move the needle. I asked how much Mazraoui was. You come back with injury record and he's played 50games this season. If our scouting is right we can build a balanced squad for Ruben's system,if not you can continue to support a non functioning attacking 3rd and fawn over garnacho 21goal involvements some more. Lad went about 3months without a goal and kept shooting from left right and centre while other players like bruno were waving hands at him to pass the thing. He ISNT a 10. He played him left 10,he kept good out towards left wing,now he's playing him right 10. Why,cause he tends to go to his left,he goes left on the right,hes central. It's OK for now.but we need lads that can go either way and not always block the striker space. That's me done,have a good transfer window pal.
I don't see how you can argue Mazroui "moved the needle", given we're in 15th place. In fact, I don't think you could argue any of our summer signings did, given where we are.
Mazroui is a nice swing backup player for WB and CB. He was a good value buy for 15M. I'd argue he probably shouldn't/wouldn't start at any position for a serious UCL team, and hence is not a needle mover.
We need quality, and 15 mil signings are rarely the case would you agree ?
Or are all top clubs missing a trick here
I want us to sign the right players, we can’t afford to splash 15 - 20 mil on a random few players because they fit a system if the quality is low
Agree. Would cherki for 20m fit the system better than zirkzee in a 10 position
Yeah I would definitely say he does
Cherki isn’t going to cost 20m, it will be more. The low fee that everyone refers to was a gentleman’s agreement for a temporary length of time
Jacobs is a Qatar guy so it could be he's briefed by PSG to push the narrative their way.
Pretty sure they didn't honour it in January with Dortmund, anyway.
No doubt, a verbal release clause, and this is us.
Hope you’re right by the way
Yes but he will be in the last year of his contract come summer. I imagine Lyon will bite our hand off if we offer €30m.
EDIT: Just had a look around at reports online and they all have €20-30m as the going price.
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I imagine there will be a lot of suitors, it will probably end up being more. You'd be stupid to low ball a club that regularly produces good talent, as you'd be the back of the queue next time. Cherki isn't worth that.
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Agreed there will be many suitors. I think he’s a top talent though so would be glad to pay €30-40m. Would cost much more if not for his contract situation and has more in his locker than Cunha for me who is more of a transition player and obviously more expensive.
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