Transfer Tweets - Manchester United - 2024/25

Lyng said:
Højlund is no way near good enough. But to say Keane is miles better is overeating him quite alot. He is shite.
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Being shite and better than Hojlund aren’t mutually exclusive things. The harsh reality is that Kean is miles better than Hojlund.
 
Please don't tell me I've just seen us linked to Moise Kean. What I've seen of him he's useless.
 
golden_blunder said:
They are obviously trying to negotiate a payment structure otherwise it would go quickly
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This is spot on. I mean even if you are mega rich with no PSR/cashflow trouble you want the best deal, which in this case would be negotiating payement structure over number of years instead of splashing 62million pounds (or 1 819 138 900 Czechoslovakian crowns) in one go.
 
golden_blunder said:
They are obviously trying to negotiate a payment structure otherwise it would go quickly
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This doesn’t really make any sense.

If they’re negotiating a payment structure then the release value is out the window. Wolves have no incentive to agree to anything other than upfront payment of the release clause, so if we really are trying to “negotiate” that suggests that we are offering something in return.

The more likely scenario is that it’s either:

1. All but complete with announcement waiting until the end of the season to avoid distractions.
2. Personal terms are still not agreed.
 
Pexbo said:
This doesn’t really make any sense.

If they’re negotiating a payment structure then the release value is out the window. Wolves have no incentive to agree to anything other than upfront payment of the release clause, so if we really are trying to “negotiate” that suggests that we are offering something in return.

The more likely scenario is that it’s either:

1. All but complete with announcement waiting until the end of the season to avoid distractions.
2. Personal terms are still not agreed.
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The release clause might be out the window in terms of forced to sell but it doesn't mean they're not happy to sell at the same fee with a payment structure in place. There's a level of realism that clubs can't afford up front payments.
 
Smores said:
The release clause might be out the window in terms of forced to sell but it doesn't mean they're not happy to sell at the same fee with a payment structure in place. There's a level of realism that clubs can't afford up front payments.
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They might well be and that could be the outcome of negotiations but if you’re Wolves, you’re asking for something in return because you hold the cards.
 
Pexbo said:
They might well be and that could be the outcome of negotiations but if you’re Wolves, you’re asking for something in return because you hold the cards.
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They are Wolves, they agreed with Liverpool to pay initial 9mil for Diogo Jota then four years of 8mil yearly payments, to meet his 40mil release clause. If Cunha´s a Mendez client thats what they would do.
 
Brand Nubian said:
They are Wolves, they agreed with Liverpool to pay initial 9mil for Diogo Jota then four years of 8mil yearly payments, to meet his 40mil release clause. If Cunha´s a Mendez client thats what they would do.
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So Liverpool paid £41m for a £40m release clause?

That proves my point no?
 
Pexbo said:
So Liverpool paid £41m for a £40m release clause?

That proves my point no?
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Not sure what your point is now mate. As GB explained above, United are likely trying to negotiate a payement structure instead of putting the whole wack on the table. Even paying a couple milion above the release clause in the end is a win. Esp. with United and their PSR/cashflow struggles.
 
Brand Nubian said:
Not sure what your point is now mate. As GB explained above, United are likely trying to negotiate a payement structure instead of putting the whole wack on the table. Even paying a couple milion above the release clause in the end is a win. Esp. with United and their PSR/cashflow struggles.
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My point is that the release clause becomes moot if we’re negotiating, it’s becomes a starting point but they could decide to play hardball and say it’s and extra £5m or £10m especially if there is other clubs willing to pay it and Cunha is open to joining them.

The point of a release clause is that you pay that value and there is no negotiations, done and dusted, agree terms with player and he’s yours.
 
thefrenchy said:
Luis Ocompos was seen with Sir Alex Ferguson today at the Penunsula hotel in Paris. Maybe nothing special but well after the latest rumors it deserves to be known .
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This is interesting if true, but I’m confused.

Didn’t Fergie step away from any official duties with the club? Why would he be involved here?
 
Cee90 said:
This is interesting if true, but I’m confused.

Didn’t Fergie step away from any official duties with the club? Why would he be involved here?
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He’s no longer in an ambassadorial role and his ambassador salary was ended. He is however still a director of the football club
 
Pexbo said:
He’s no longer in an ambassadorial role and his ambassador salary was ended. He is however still a director of the football club
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Ah, didn’t know that at all. Cheers.

My thoughts are it was probably just a chance encounter, but who knows.
 
Pexbo said:
This doesn’t really make any sense.

If they’re negotiating a payment structure then the release value is out the window. Wolves have no incentive to agree to anything other than upfront payment of the release clause, so if we really are trying to “negotiate” that suggests that we are offering something in return.

The more likely scenario is that it’s either:

1. All but complete with announcement waiting until the end of the season to avoid distractions.
2. Personal terms are still not agreed.
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Well a lot of stories came out a few weeks back that wolves would be open to negotiation over payment structure. Plus we did a couple of deals like this in the summer.

Time will tell I guess
 
Ollie Derbyshire said:
I’m just joking, but I hope we find someone better or I’d stick with Hojlund and improve other areas myself.
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Sticking with Hojlund is what we did this season and look where we are at. There is no way we can simply stick with him and expect anything, regardless of upgrades in quality around him we would still be carrying a passenger. He needs to go on loan for a year or two or be sold with buy back in case he develops into a player of sufficient quality.
 
Gavinb33 said:
I see our deals are still as prolonged as ever even when there is a release clause in place ridiculous
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I doubt any deals would be announced until after the last game of the season, why add more unnecessary media attention when we should be focused on a possible European final. It's not as though he can play for us at this exact moment.
 
Posh Red said:
Has Jacobs been downgraded following his Bruno tweets?
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That was the last straw, yeah. This isn't his first exclusive that was wide of the mark, and whilst he's able to offer some good additional insight, he's not as well-connected as I thought he would be.
 
TsuWave said:
Yes, Hojlund being a complete flop is certainly a factor - but Kean having a better scoring record than him at PSG and now at Fiorentina also help
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Keane was a massive flop in the Prem. Scoring in Italy means nothing. Højlund looked a vig talent in Atalanta, but cant cuts it in the Prem. Getting Keane woyld just be another failure. We need a proven striker. Not a Everton flop
 
Lyng said:
Keane was a massive flop in the Prem. Scoring in Italy means nothing. Højlund looked a vig talent in Atalanta, but cant cuts it in the Prem. Getting Keane woyld just be another failure. We need a proven striker. Not a Everton flop
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Except the assertion I’ve made is that he’s better than Hojlund. Not that he was a success in the prem nor that United should get him, so I don’t know why you replied to me with that?

In addition, player development isn’t always linear, and players that previously flopped in the prem ended up becoming some of the best prem players ever, so - besides having nothing to do with what I posted - your reasoning doesn’t even pass surface scrutiny.
 
TsuWave said:
Yes, Hojlund being a complete flop is certainly a factor - but Kean having a better scoring record than him at PSG and now at Fiorentina also help
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To be fair he as the maverick Antony probably laying them on a plate for him there!

And Anthony was terrible in the PL as Kean was.
 
Pexbo said:
This doesn’t really make any sense.

If they’re negotiating a payment structure then the release value is out the window. Wolves have no incentive to agree to anything other than upfront payment of the release clause, so if we really are trying to “negotiate” that suggests that we are offering something in return.

The more likely scenario is that it’s either:

1. All but complete with announcement waiting until the end of the season to avoid distractions.
2. Personal terms are still not agreed.
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Apparently not, Wolves are open to installments according to Whitwell.
 
Drainy said:
More money to reflect the loss of spending power from agreeing installments
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Right, which was my initial point. It makes the function of a release clause moot - we need to drop a suitcase of cash at their door to activate it and walk away with the player no arguments.

Anything outside of that falls into negotiations and the release clause only acts as a guideline price.
 
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