That’s my biggest damn worry going into next season. There is just too much player power at this club and the board are just happy to sit back and allow it as long as it makes them money.
Yes but Conte would’ve been a full time appointment which is completely different. I’m taking about an interim manager which the board were adamant was the route they were going down. I think these players looked at it as a substitute teacher and we can all piss about in the classroom and not listen because this guy isn’t going to be here at the end of the season.
More worrying are the fans wanting the managers sacked and shielding the players. You can bet your arse we'll have a horde calling for ten hags neck whilst shielding the likes of rashford and maguire (assuming lingard and pogba are no longer here
)Yeah being told you’re shit, can’t play to the required level and won’t be working here next year will do that
Why should the players listen when there are no consequences ? Fans will still protect the players. Its always the managers fault you see, jose was a taskmaster and mean, ole was a mate and allowed them to do whatever they wanted and rangnick is a loose canon telling it like it is and not protecting the players.
No one will shield a single player in this team moving forward. We all know it’s the players.More worrying are the fans wanting the managers sacked and shielding the players. You can bet your arse we'll have a horde calling for ten hags neck whilst shielding the likes of rashford and maguire (assuming lingard and pogba are no longer here
Howe is a full time appointment who will be there next year. Comparing apples and oranges.
There’s been plenty of examples of interim managers doing well. I’m using Howe as an example of how coaching can be done quickly and effectively. Being interim wouldn’t matter if the players believed in Ralf.
We already know who are the downtooling idiots. So we can easily remove them from being near the squad.
Yeh okay sorry misunderstood your point. I do agree with you here. I still think there were better interim managers out there who would have steadied the ship and got better results though, but I also agree with you (and Keane) that motivation is much harder when you know the gaffa is out on his arse in 6 months.
Nonsense
Well that along with the more important job of making us look better, improving tactics and results and getting us top 4/competing in the cups. Basically he’s done the absolute bare minimum and the easiest part of the job, he’s failed at the rest, badly.
He was brought in to get top four, otherwise he could have gone straight upstairs and we’d have got a different interim
No, he was primarily hired as someone who could provide the full time manager with a dossier of what needs to be done, hence the reason he is being hired on a consultancy basis afterwards.
Never in the history of football has a manager been hired to solely check what needs to be done in 6 months time
The defending of him has turned to madness
Who do think could’ve done any better on an interim basis? I seem to remember Rangnick being one of the top picks at the time and no one was complaining when he came in. The fact he wasn’t able to get anything out of this squad tells me the problems go far deeper than the manager and have been allowed to fester for a long time.
Myth. The whole consultancy gig was just a sweetener to the interim contract - he had a 3 year deal at Lokomotiv and to make up the value of the contract we added 2 years of consultancy.
Except by his own admission he said he was tasked with getting top four and competing with the cups which is literally the bare minimum. We didn’t bring him in and say “to be honest Ralf it doesn’t matter what you do as long as you profile the players, season is a write off anyway…” We had plenty to play for and we only needed to see very marginal improvement on ole to see that, instead he managed to take us backwards.
Top picks? Some of us didnt know who he was when he joined us and the reason for that is obvious. A lot of us worked out he was a joke pretty early on, this thread gives an indication of that, read the start of it.
The plan seemed sound to me. I was all for Ralf, but he has still failed spectacularly. Just because people were pleased with the appointment doesn’t afford any hindsight on what is to come.
Exactly nail on the head sir.
The nonsense is going back to oles reign to defend this mess of the last 6 months.
Yep, I saw hope in the appointment too, based on his time managing in Germany. But it's pretty clear he's out of his depth here - maybe in part due to rustiness, in part adapting to the league and obviously due to a huge disconnect with the players.
Everyone knows you blame the players only. They should be all fired. Unreal nonsense.
not wrong though is he ?Nice job of deflecting all the blame back onto Ole
I blame the players and the manager BUT the players share more of the blame atm.
That’s the unique thing about bringing Rangnick in though, he’s not there just to manage the team for 6 months then feck off. He’s then going upstairs in a consultancy role and if he’s actually given any sort of power which remains to be seen with our board but if he’s given any real influence then he could be very beneficial for the club in the long run. He’s another football man to help make football decisions which can only be a good thing. It might look like I’m blindly supporting Ralf but I’m really not, I’ve been disappointed with his performance as manager as welI. I certainly expected better but at the same time I think anyone would have struggled to get a tune of this squad in 6 months and I also think his best work may be done in his 2 year consultancy role.
No. You dont need to give him the manager job to do that. He was brought in as a interim manager, and as consultant for the next years. Since he did not coach with focus on short term he should have been fired in early january. Simple as that.
Hopefully you’re right and we’ll see something from him in the next two years in a different role.
I mean he is objectively wrong.
I called it when he was signed and I had looked into who he was. Right guy, wrong job.
