Punishing clubs for spending too much money with a fine is utterly ridiculous.
UEFA Punish clubs for financial breaches
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Nik (@Rood), Jamie (@Vault Dweller) and Ed (@That'sHernandez) give their end of season awards out! They celebrate the best players, goals and moments of the season (there were some, honestly) and also give out awards for the worst and most disappointing players/moments of the season.
They then discuss all the latest transfer rumours and get into the potential ins and outs this summer at Old Trafford.
Punishing clubs for spending too much money with a fine is utterly ridiculous.
Not a bad day's work for UEFA.
Good. A good way of enforcing this.
Chelsea stop being stupid. Villa don’t spend 90 of turnover on wages.
Chelsea stop being stupid. Villa don’t spend 90 of turnover on wages.
How is it a good way of enforcing it? You think £27m is a deterrent to a club spending billions? A competition ban is how you enforce it, if UEFA were serious, that's what the punishment would be.
UEFA can't come down on them too hard, lest they take their ball and play somewhere else
Agreed.
Either a competition ban or forfeit all their UEFA prize money for the season.
Embarrassing, feels like giving a Ferrari a parking fine.
I might be wrong but I think we pay the £27m and then we have a four year period with which to get back in line. If we don’t then we pay a much higher penalty £70mish.
It makes assumptions about the next set of accounts and seems we won’t get another penalty other than the higher fine unless i’m mistaken.
Edit: The four year period has annual targets to hit for a gradual return to compliance, miss those and there will indeed be additional penalties
It makes assumptions about the next set of accounts and seems we won’t get another penalty other than the higher fine unless i’m mistaken.
Edit: The four year period has annual targets to hit for a gradual return to compliance, miss those and there will indeed be additional penalties
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It will be that eventually. If it carries on.
Agreed it's not enough, but I think there are other implications. Not entirely sure, but think they won't be allowed to register the same number of players if they're still in the red, or something like that.
Still, not the best deterrent, but would put them at a disadvantage in the competition
Absolute Joke! Basically just sent the message out that the rules are a load of shite and you can just do what you want as all you’ll face is a minimal fine.
Are the fines directly proportional to the breaches or are they just making it up as they go along?
The footballing equivelant of speeding.
That £3m fine for Roma...What's the point
Where does the money go?
Is it evenly distrubuted amongst the clubs that haven't been fined?.
Is it evenly distrubuted amongst the clubs that haven't been fined?.
Juventus were banned in 23/24 for this, Chelsea got a fine back then too but hadn't qualified for the following season anyway so it's not the first time for them.
Wonder how far you have to push it for a ban?
Should all come to United.
The UEFA Christmas party. Gonna be a good one this year.
Should all come to United.
They've fined you for FFP stuff in the past so absolutely not!
Almost like they're burying the news, pretty disgusting. FFP is dead, stone cold, that's the bottom line here. PSR you can just sell assets to yourself and UEFA you can just pay a small fine.
I think Juventus happily took the ban because they'd be in the conference league
I supect UEFA might have found it easier to ban them from the most minor of the competitions too. If they'd have been due to play CL it might have been different.
Does this mean Chelsea and Villa can't register any of their new players for European competitions unless they run a positive transfer balance (I guess taking both amortized fees and wages into consideration) this window? If so, Chelsea has some work to do selling players to get there as they've made 179m euro in buys and only 22m euro in sales according to Transfermarkt.
Would guess it's from this summer window onwards but am not at all sure. It really is a lot of guessing on my part.
Either way we know they can't spend a lot more this summer and register those players unless there's some outgoings too, might impact who'd be willing to join them.
Edit: Could literally be from now on - the date this was decided in which case I'm now wondering if it's why they've bought a load of players already. Would be a bit of joke if Delap, Joao Pedro etc. don't count as they weren't on any list but typically smart when it comes to circumventing things by Chelsea. They probably foresaw this. If that's the case they've already got a lot of their business done and this wouldn't really impact them. Sell off Nkunku, Jackson or both and a list B player or two and they'd have a good margin to play with. They're really sneaky aren't they?
Wouldn't be surprised if that's how it pans out now I think of it more.
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Chelsea probably factored in these fines to their transfer dealings.
Can’t stand them but they are smart and proactive when it comes to getting around these hurdles.
I don’t think it will deter them doing something similar again.
Can’t stand them but they are smart and proactive when it comes to getting around these hurdles.
I don’t think it will deter them doing something similar again.
Yeah. It’s like this hack I’ve found with pay day loans. When they come asking for their money back, you just take another loan to pay them back. And when that company does the same, you find a new one. And just like with Chelsea, this will never come back to bite me.
The fines are fine but the money should be shared equally between the clubs that took part in the competition that were clean and the fines should also be counted in their FFP spending in the next round with fines doubling for every repeated offence in the future. That way it helps their rivals and weakens them in the future.
In reality though UEFA probably keep all the money and the fines won't count towards FFP.
In reality though UEFA probably keep all the money and the fines won't count towards FFP.
They should start taking notice of City too.
Loophole FC
Selling hotels and their womens team to balance the books, their fans must be proud.
That's exactly what UEFA did in the past. I can't see anything confirming what they do with it now though.
Chelsea have been fined 31 million euros ($36.50 million) by UEFA for breaches of its financial rules, while Aston Villa, Barcelona and Olympique Lyonnais were also levied with large fines, UEFA announced on Friday.
The punishments come with the potential for far harsher fines down the road, with Chelsea risking being hit with a further 60 million euros if they do not get their finances in order.
Barcelona must pay a 15 million euro fine, with UEFA fining Lyon 12.5 million and Aston Villa five million.
The punishments come with the potential for far harsher fines down the road, with Chelsea risking being hit with a further 60 million euros if they do not get their finances in order.
Barcelona must pay a 15 million euro fine, with UEFA fining Lyon 12.5 million and Aston Villa five million.
Damn, Lyon already needs to find €200M to stay in Ligue 1, and now they're slapped with a 12.5M fine. They just sold a player for €5M, so only €207.5M left to find!
Dumb, although also funny if they then fine the same team a year later because the fine they received the previous year meant they breached ffp again
These fines kinda show that UEFA doesn't really care about fairness, they just want their cut.
Yep, but then that should be to the surprise of no one at all.
It already wasn't fair before this with what the likes of PSG and City get up to
If the fines are this low then why bother abiding by the rules anyway.
Exactly
"Guys, win tonight and the fine is paid for ! Justice on 3. 1,2,3, JUSTICE !"