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I'd take an unbeaten season (including a title win of course) over any points/goals/wins record. Easy.
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I'd take an unbeaten season (including a title win of course) over any points/goals/wins record. Easy.
Turns out logic and common sense doesn't affect people's judgement as much as what the media says. Who could have guessed that?
Poor, really?
Hyperbole, but drawing 12 matches is a bit iffy imo.
And failing in other competitions. The "invincibles" won one trophy. Too often sight of that is lost.
I would prefer an unbeaten season, but also with a cup trophy next to it to make it a phenomenal season along with an impressive season. Without the cup though, I’d take the record breaking season, which we had many of already under the great man himself, Sir Alex.
I think unbeaten is a greater achievement, the extra pressure mounting after every game especially in the last quarter of the season is huge. You are the team to beat, especially in the Premier League you need everything going your way and bags of luck too.
It would possibly depend on the points balance. Being unbeaten but scraping to a title with tons of 0-0 draws probably wouldn't be as impressive as winning 37 games and losing one.
Of course, in an actual real life season, other factors would have to be taken into account, like Europe, domestic cup/s, style of play, how many games were won well and how many were won by flukey crosses going in or last minute penalties and such.
I guarantee though that an invincible season would lead to more merchandising options I think, lots of t-shirts for the club execs to get excited about. "Invincible" is a tight marketing label. "Pure tons of points, lad" isn't quite as transactional.
Of course, in an actual real life season, other factors would have to be taken into account, like Europe, domestic cup/s, style of play, how many games were won well and how many were won by flukey crosses going in or last minute penalties and such.
I guarantee though that an invincible season would lead to more merchandising options I think, lots of t-shirts for the club execs to get excited about. "Invincible" is a tight marketing label. "Pure tons of points, lad" isn't quite as transactional.
Unbeaten all season. No one will ever be able to take that tag away from Arsenal forever while records can be broken.
I'd go as far as preferring not winning the league undefeated over winning it with 100 points. It is just such an incredible achievement.
Two reasons: 1) this is a manchester united board 2) the 11/12 season is effectively footnote in the recent history of real madrid. You won't find a single madridista bragging about that over what we've accomplished in the last 4 seasons
Same thing with barcelona. Unbeaten league is nice and all, but it's no treble, or double with probably the greatest club team in football history
unbeaten with tonnes of draws is blah.
i would prefer 100points over it, for United but unbeaten while having 100 points is something else and I would rather have it, than 100 points but beaten by either a rival or a lowly team.
as for Barsa, they already have acheived the 100 points, they would very much prefer unbeaten run than 100points.
i would prefer 100points over it, for United but unbeaten while having 100 points is something else and I would rather have it, than 100 points but beaten by either a rival or a lowly team.
as for Barsa, they already have acheived the 100 points, they would very much prefer unbeaten run than 100points.
The first thing I remember when I think of Porto's season under AVB was winning trophies, playing exciting football and humiliating rivals. Going unbeaten was, like someone mentioned before, a footnote.
It was "nice" and all, it was an achievement only Benfica had done so it was nice to "steal" that from them, but it's very secondary in my memory. Don't know why people make such a big fuss about it.
It was "nice" and all, it was an achievement only Benfica had done so it was nice to "steal" that from them, but it's very secondary in my memory. Don't know why people make such a big fuss about it.
For that matter, would barcelona change their 9 draws with say 6 wins and 3 losses(none against us)? Chance to finish the season on 105 points, which would be utterly insane
@Ishdalar
Obviously the primary objective is to win the league, so discounting the 38 games 38 draws nonsense, going unbeaten is a bigger feat.
It also depends on the quality of the league.
How often has it happened in La Liga?
It also depends on the quality of the league.
How often has it happened in La Liga?
Also worth considering the drama effect, if you win the league with 100+ points then more likely than not you’ll have done it with maybe 4 games to spare, whereas going unbeaten keeps the suspense until the last whistle of the season.
I feel like unbeaten and record amount of points are metaphors for two players.....
You're not invincible if you lose twice (5-1 on agg) vs. your archrivals in one Cup, lose 3-0 to Roma of all sides in another Cup, and lose to Espanyol (again couldn't have been to a worse side if they had to pick) along the way in yet another Cup. That's losses in 3 out of 4 fronts, so there's no "aura" whatsoever.
Not to mention the ref bailing you out of losing in that last one to avoid making it losses in 4/4.
Not to mention the ref bailing you out of losing in that last one to avoid making it losses in 4/4.