Our fans ask has been very reasonable - just show some improvement in our style and we dont care about results. Look at Lampard - despite losing 4-0 at OT, they were quite good on that day. Their play has been good today as well.
Me too
They only lost hazard and a crappy David luiz. You a forgetting they have Alonso, Kante, Pulisic, Willian, Jorginho, kovacic. The spine and winning mentality is still there. I could go on and on. United don't even have players, they can barely field 11. We have good players too but one injury and there is no one to replace them.
Chelsea are a mess defensively and have conceded 16 goals in 8 games. Anyone can look good going forward if they abandon all discipline defensively. Being happy while losing 4-0 isn't a thing and not somewhere I'd ever want to be. Yes we want to improve stylistically and it's important, but you have to be realistic at the same time. It's hard to judge our style of play when the main attackers are injured, and sometimes all you need in the attack is just the right players. We'll see how we play with Martial and Pogba fit and as the season goes on.
Lampard sure is doing wonders, losing back to back home games and conceding 16 in 8. Fecking people.Yeah I don’t get the Lampard and Chelsea hype. They have been just as bad as we have been this season.
Theyve been fecking woeful. People are saying its admirable that they're attacking but they are literally up there with the worst defensive sides in the league.
My point was about implementing a style though. If you have the right coach, you can do it in couple of months
Tbh, I would take that right now if it means we are getting an identity. They will get better this season eventually. He just took over about a month ago and I can see their progress in game style already .
I am too. I dont think these players give a shit they need a rocket up their arse from now.
So your telling me if Solskjear was in charge of liverpool they would be 1st in the league and undefeated or if he was in charge of Leicester, west ham or arsenal they would be in their current positions?
Fair point but again we have been seeing this shit since PSG game though. It's not like Ole never had his full team available.
Identity is throwing everyone forward abandoning all sense of positioning and structure defensively? Why would they just get better eventually? Lampard has shown literally nothing to suggest he can have them balanced, and its not like defensive structure is an easy thing to fix.
I still think you're getting the wrong end of the stick if you think it's about 'attitude' or 'hard-work'.
It does matter that a capable hand is in charge when said improvements are being made.
To be fair to him, his best defender is still not available. Point being, he is already showing some progress (good or bad in the long run is yet to be seen) while we have regressed since new year.
I am not criticising Poch I am saying he would get them working harder.
Very happy with us getting rid of fellaini/valencia/lukaku/sanchez/smalling and dropping Matic. Also very happy with signing James, Wan Bissaka and Maguire. The problem was just that it wasnt enough, but it doesnt mean that any of them were ultimately the wrong decisions. That's why I pretty ok with Ole staying for now. Nothing special tactically but not awful either. We just need the squad built up to scratch where the manager doesnt make us collapse.
Fair enough cos I think he's awful tactically. Emphasis on fitness and running, Lingard as a #10 showing a poor understanding of attacking structure and roles, no playing identity, has mental blocks on what subs to make and when which is odd for a young manager talk less of one that's been managing for 10 years. In my opinion his tactical failings show his ceiling is low. He has bought well I'll admit but that still makes him a good scout and a bad coach
Yeah we need to do exactly what Liverpool are doing. There injury record has been amazing.
Does he work for The Sun by any chance?
Haha, even I would need some convincing to leave my job to take over united right now.
Or moyes.
