They weren't?
United...1990s Liverpool re-enacted?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to talk about United's dreadful home defeat at the hands of Big Ange's Tottenham Hotspur. Should this have been the end of Ten Hag? How long does he actually have left? And does Nik finally want ETH out?!
They spent loads. No idea what you're talking about.
Odd bump given Liverpool were.
Liverpool at their shittest had much more fight than this pathetic modern United.
Even at their worst and us at our peak you'd have never have seen a 7-0. Ten Hag has taken us to new depths of shit, the sort of shit we'd be rolling around on the floor pissing ourselves with laughter at if Liverpool were in our position. Remember how funny it was when Roy Hodgson managed them? Yeah, that's how other clubs are looking at us now
I think it's the nature of the defeats with United, more than anything else. I don't recall us getting turned over as much as United have been under ETH, or at times under Ole for example. We'd lose or fail to win a lot, but wouldn't get turned over often. You've won more than we did back then.
I wonder if you'd finished 5th in the previous two seasons playing nice football but not won anything (looking like you were building towards something), your fan base would be generally happier than you are now.
We won next to nothing in the 90's but put some nice football and some decent players (Owen, Fowler, McManaman etc.) in front of The Kop and it was fine. We finished 8th, 4th and 4th under Klopp winning nothing, but we could all see it was moving in the right direction. United haven't had that for an extended period under any post-Fergie manager so far. Maybe Ole and Mourinho at some point but it turned sour for them pretty fast.
You haven't had a solid period of development under one manager like Klopp at Liverpool, or Arteta at Arsenal. Maybe you don't win anything but you like what you're seeing on the pitch, that kind of thing. Maybe that's what most of your fan base really want.
I just thought it was an odd bump and flex given how, as you say, we’ve won more than Liverpool in that era despite being so erratic.
Regarding the rest of your post yes consistency is something we have consistently been unable to maintain. There’s been some fantastic results and performances mixed in with some of the worse we’ve ever seen. All a bit bizarre really.
The Ten Hag regime really highlights this and is his biggest failing. You can’t be a cup manager at a club like United or Liverpool. You have to make steady progress in the league and maintain a level in Europe.
We’ve been like that since Moyes took over. It’s depressing.
Strange how alike our down periods were and are. 90/91 to 00/01 united 8 wins vs Liverpool 6 wins head to head in the league. Only 1 match won by more than 2 goals( lfc4-united0)
2013/14 to 23/4 Liverpool 8 wins vs United 6 wins. But the difference being the hidings united have taken with a 4-0 a 5-0 and a 7 to zilch loss. Definitely worse than us in the 90s.
2013/14 to 23/4 Liverpool 8 wins vs United 6 wins. But the difference being the hidings united have taken with a 4-0 a 5-0 and a 7 to zilch loss. Definitely worse than us in the 90s.
@PickledRed wash your mouth out
I've always thought this, too. The only real title race between us in my lifetime was in 08/09. Aside from that one season, either we've been good and you've been rubbish or vice versa. We're the two biggest and most successful clubs in the country, but it's never been similar to a Madrid and Barcelona for example.
It's a bit of a shame because a rivalry between us two at our peaks would've been like our rivalry with Arsenal in the late 90s/early 00s but on steroids.
Possibly. But. This United side have accumulated 30 points fewer than Liverpool since the start of last season. That’s only 44 games. It’s as bad in my book given Liverpool only came third last season.
Dreadful.
If you take league campaigns no, United isnt worse than 90s Liverpool whatever resident Liverpool or United fans who dwell in misery say.
If you take head to head clashes Its worse, yes. Not the results per se, in the sense of victories and defeats but the manner of defeats we had to them last few years.
If you take head to head clashes Its worse, yes. Not the results per se, in the sense of victories and defeats but the manner of defeats we had to them last few years.
You should check that data again.
And what?
Dunno. Just seems as bad tbh
Interesting. You bumped a thread from 2017 then accept you don’t know why you did so or what point you were making.
I wrote the original thread 7 years ago. It’s had posts over the years. I believe it carries even more merit now than it did then.
Looking at their previous replies, I think you’re going to have to wait the full 30-odd years before you get any kind of acknowledgment that your 2017 post was an accurate projection!
Haha
Nah. You bumped it to get a reaction and wind people up following the weekend.
In this decade of us being shit I've only had to watch Liverpool lift the league once. How many times did you lot have to watch us lift it? We topped off the 90s with a nice little treble too. I know who I would rather be.
Let’s just agree that you’re currently a (very funny) clown show, much as we were back in the 90s.
There’s a lack of seriousness and professionalism at all levels at united right now, and no-one understands that better than a Liverpool fan who lived through the good old days before experiencing the banter years. You’ve just got to get through the pain of it.
There’s a lack of seriousness and professionalism at all levels at united right now, and no-one understands that better than a Liverpool fan who lived through the good old days before experiencing the banter years. You’ve just got to get through the pain of it.
There is always hope under the new ownership that things will change. Sacking ten hag which must happen in the next couple of weeks should give us a steer.
We’ve had a decade plus a few years of banter teams now, even arsenal are out of their banter era and look like a serious proposition at the moment.
Just hope we escape from ours soon as it’s fecking annoying.
Would be great to see a proper Liverpool vs Utd rivalry in the next few years (once city get fecked off back to the national league)
It is odd to see the same thing happen with United as how Everton or Aston Villa fans see themselves as big clubs still cos they were there when they won big trophies. But when I grew up they just looked rubbish. That’s what’s happening with Man Utd now.
I can genuinely say people don’t seem wound up by it.
Because people know that you're a wum and most people ignore your posts, I would imagine.