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Yeah or just do what every club does and get an agent to speak with the players agent.You can speak to a player at any time with the permission of his club.
Yeah or just do what every club does and get an agent to speak with the players agent.You can speak to a player at any time with the permission of his club.
This is true, but the entire situation has now fundamentally altered. Most of us were worried about change when Fergie was on the way out, we'd been dominant for so long that the most tempting idea was that someone would come in and keep the great man's work ticking along. We've now moved to a stage where change is the most desirable thing in the world, such is the regression. The question's moved from being "how is this person similar to Fergie?" to "what will this person be able to add to the club?" Van Gaal is someone that's a proven winner, is a dominant personality and plays good football. He genuinely believes in youth development and should leave a good legacy even in only a short period of time. Of course there are downsides - primarily being that he's a bit of a dick and unlikely to last long, and his transfer history is questionable. But if everyone's ideal is Klopp and he's not available yet for another few years, a short term injection to get us back where we need to be is surely a decent solution?Van Gaal would be better than Moyes certainly. If he had been appointed as SAF's replacement I would have been distinctly underwhelmed and doubtful though. Far from convinced he'd be the right man for this job so, while I do hope Moyes goes, I also hope this story isn't true at all.
Make of that what you will. On the denial by the club, it was already denied by the club last night the Mirror, so that's nothing new.They're one of our more respected newspapers. When it comes to news related to personalities who have a lot of contacts with Ajax they are pretty reliable. And seeing how there probably is still some bad blood between the paper and van Gaal because of the recent Ajax takeover where they clearly supported Cruijff instead of him, I doubt that van Gaal leaked the news to the paper himself.
The first point is what I don't understand. If we want him we will approach him without his agent having to plant seeds for it. I can understand the second part but as I said, a figure must have been discussed during the earlier approach. Anway, I hope there is truth to it.The most obvious answer: he'd prefer the United job and is trying to plant the seed and draw us out. Plus he can use it to engineer a better deal from Spurs.
Yeah im not too sure why people are unsure of his track record, add to that the general experience of managing three top tier clubs and one premier nation and it looks pretty decent to me. (OK ajax were top tier)Van Gaal's cv is pretty impressive. He's won league titles in Holland, Spain, and Germany as well as a European Cup and a UEFA Cup. Not too shabby at all.
Exactly what I was getting at above.The biggest thing about his CV is that he's actually managed big clubs. This is as important an aspect as anything, as we've realised.
So it's more or less like one of the broadsheets over here reporting it, which would have a decent level of credibility. There's always the chance they got bad information, but promising nonetheless.A Dutch poster on Reddit posted this:
Make of that what you will. On the denial by the club, it was already denied by the club last night the Mirror, so that's nothing new.
Does anyone know how he gets on with Van Persie? Dutch football folk often seem to grudge-bearingly rub each other up the wrong way.Van Gaal's cv is pretty impressive. He's won league titles in Holland, Spain, and Germany as well as a European Cup and a UEFA Cup. Not too shabby at all.
Great relationship apparently.Does anyone know how he gets on with Van Persie? Dutch football folk often seem to grudge-bearingly rub each other up the wrong way.
They were photographed sitting together at a match in Holland a few weeks back. Safe to assume they get on.Does anyone know how he gets on with Van Persie? Dutch football folk often seem to grudge-bearingly rub each other up the wrong way.
I'd be inclined to agree. Klopp and Guardiola will both become available at some stage over the next five years, not this summer though, van Gaal would be the appropriate choice 'til then.Would be perfect to have in place right up until Klops contract runs out.
Van Persie is his captain I believe. I think this was discussed on here a month or so back, they apparently had a falling out at the beginning because they're dutch, but get along well now.Does anyone know how he gets on with Van Persie? Dutch football folk often seem to grudge-bearingly rub each other up the wrong way.
If there's one thing evident on redcafe, you're only as good as your last five games.I can't believe that Rodgers even gets mentioned in these discussions. Are things so ridiculously short-term nowadays that the likes of Rodgers gets mooted for some of the biggest jobs in football management -from United to Barca - on the basis of one season?
What a surreal joke of a season this has been...and not just for us either.
van Gaal or another experimental appointment.We need a new manager. What are the options?
very much this.Would be perfect to have in place right up until Klops contract runs out.
His main focus seems to be on getting the existing staff playing to their potential and bringing through youngsters. Robben seemingly had to be forced on him when at Bayern.I heard he's a bit shit in the transfer market. Is that true?
And it may be for this reason as much as any other that Moyes keeps the job.van Gaal or another experimental appointment.
When did this happen? Any direct quotes from him?This story could be bullshit or have a grain of truth who knows.
But i can't believe some are in here actually spouting guff that United wouldn't approach another manager whilst Moyes in still in charge.
Do people actually believe shit like that?
Yes because our club has way more morals than every other club, yeah right.
Moyes was on tv the other night admitting in an interview that we have been tapping players up the idiot. And we've been at that for years. Do you think we waited until Big Ron cleared out his desk before before approaching Ferguson, did we feck.
And lets not forget the biggest recent example where a manager contracted to Everton football club was called over to Fergies house to be told hes the next United manager, do you think we asked Bill Kenright for permission to speak to Moyes? Again did we feck.
United wouldn't speak to another manager while moyes is still in charge, jesus wept the shit you hear on here.
He will be loved by our money men as opposed to Mr 'I need to rebuild this shit team SAF's left me' Moyes. However my concerns is that no one will force a player on us so the danger of a Wenger Mark 2 is real.His main focus seems to be on getting the existing staff playing to their potential and bringing through youngsters. Robben seemingly had to be forced on him when at Bayern.
Absolutely right. It's much too disruptive and should have started more gradually last summer. And which champions ever needed 'overhauling'? It's complete idiocy.We've got to go for him. I don't believe in this ten players out ten players in revolution. It's too many in one go and carries too many risks, risks that could take years to correct. Some of the current squad will return to another level of performance under the hopefully intimidating influence of a hard nosed winner. Pochetino has not won anything, we won't be extracting an Everton manager two seasons in a row, Simeone even speaks English?, Rodgers can't happen for north-west socio-historical reasons, and we let the best manager in the world take a job he's already done. Which Glazer is it down to to make this call?
http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/875555/luca-toni:-bayern-boss-louis-van-gaal-showed-us-his-ballsI know next to nothing about Van Gaal, when people say he's controversial, what's he actually done to get that tag?
What's Simone's record before Athletico? Just looking at Wiki quickly, he's managed 7 clubs since 2006, doesn't fill me with confidence.He will be loved by our money men as opposed to Mr 'I need to rebuild this shit team SAF's left me' Moyes. However my concerns is that no one will force a player on us so the danger of a Wenger Mark 2 is real.
I prefer Simeone than this wash up who was kicked out by nearly all the big clubs he managed.
Can't see that sort of thing going down well with our Official Pop Tarts Partners & the like.crikey
Well he got the Liverpool job based on one season. That's not going too bad for him so far.I can't believe that Rodgers even gets mentioned in these discussions. Are things so ridiculously short-term nowadays that the likes of Rodgers gets mooted for some of the biggest jobs in football management - from United to Barca - on the basis of one season?
What a surreal joke of a season this has been...and not just for us either.