I wouldn't expect a spoilt little Princess to think differently.
United's biggest problem - Our spoiled and overly entitled fan base
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
who's that then?
Not what i said Cathy Newman but wether it was better not is subjective. Fact is you either enjoyed it more or not.
Can we just stop with all the sniping and insulting each other. If you don’t agree with a point either argue against it or just move on. CBA reading about who is a bigger United fan or insults like “shills”.
Says the guy who started a thread calling our fanbase 'spoiled and overly entitled'...!?
Seriously, anyone that can't see through your antics must be extremely naive.
I don’t get how those points contradict each other in the slightest.
Says the guy who started a thread calling our fanbase 'spoiled and overly entitled'...!?
Seriously, anyone that can't see through your antics must be extremely naive.
This thread does read a bit like look at me I'm a great fan, so many of you aren't you should be more like me because I'm been positive. Postitivty doesn't = good
Bottom line is every fan wants their club to meet its targets or achieve the best it can, has United done that over the past decade? No! Has the club made a lot of mistakes? Absolutely! So, fans have a right to feel disgruntled that isn't entitlement that's wanting what's best for the club!
Having said that I agree there are some idiots on social media, but most fans just want the club to well run and have faith in the direction it is heading after the amount of cock up's there has been over the past 6 years, its hardly surprising there is a feeling of negativity around the fan base.
Bottom line is every fan wants their club to meet its targets or achieve the best it can, has United done that over the past decade? No! Has the club made a lot of mistakes? Absolutely! So, fans have a right to feel disgruntled that isn't entitlement that's wanting what's best for the club!
Having said that I agree there are some idiots on social media, but most fans just want the club to well run and have faith in the direction it is heading after the amount of cock up's there has been over the past 6 years, its hardly surprising there is a feeling of negativity around the fan base.
you don't think that starting a thread saying that United's 'biggest problem is our spoilt and overly entitled fan base' is sort of a) insulting and b) implying that you are a bigger/better United fan? Kind of rendering this statement a complete joke:
The fan base is a fault just not for the reasons you listed. By continuing to support the Glazers fans are tacitly approving the manner in which the club is being handled. What is transpiring is much more insidious than what happened at Blackpool or Blackburn.
Those owners didn’t have a massive legacy like United with massive funding so when they made messes of the club and openly mocked the fans it was only a matter of time before they would run their course because the asset, the club, would run out of value.
With United, it’s more like a cancer building its strength and after 20-30 years it reveals itself and the whole club is ravaged.
Those owners didn’t have a massive legacy like United with massive funding so when they made messes of the club and openly mocked the fans it was only a matter of time before they would run their course because the asset, the club, would run out of value.
With United, it’s more like a cancer building its strength and after 20-30 years it reveals itself and the whole club is ravaged.
Gypsy curses of misfortune usually last 7 years. The only questions that remain are... How many gypsies cursed us and do they run simultaneously or concurrently...
Think it's safe to say that anybody that wanted David Moyes, LvG and Mourinho to be sacked is spoiled, no?
Eh? You called me (I assume) a spoiled little Princess, and then use this as your reasoning?? Firstly, I wasn't on this forum during the Moyes and LVG era, and secondly, if anything I thought that Mourinho should have been properly backed last summer given that the board had extended his contract a few months previously. What you on about old chum?!
things seem to be looking good for Rashford
Me i'm not arsed, i'm just going with the flow, BUT whilst it(the spoiled fans)is not the biggest problem at the club it's as much to blame for our current plight as the Glazers, or Ed Woodward are, though for some strange reason most are reluctant to admit it. I guess it's just easier to blame somebody else.
Most posts in this thread are spot on for the title. The irony.
Tbf most people clearly agree with me. It’s only a vocal minority who have vehemently disagreed.
Please can you explain exactly what you mean by this? In what possible way could our incredibly loyal and largely patient fanbase be 'as much to blame for our current plight as the Glazers or Ed Woodward'?! It's frankly mental to even suggest it.
Are you Donald Trump in disguise?!
Stadium crumbling, squad struggling to beat the likes of Cardiff and Huddersfield despite eye watering wages being dished out, club share price tanking, no director of football as promised but the real problem is people on twitter.
Why does this thread keep showing up in the feed when I've ignored it?
Subconscious guilt I imagine.
Where on earth do people get that the stadium is crumbling from?
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Wasn't that just a burst pipe? The stadium is lovely.
No, stop spreading deliberate misinformation.
I have no idea if it was a burst pipe or not, but I know a fecking leak doesn't make Old Trafford this decaying crumbling building that so many are incessantly banging on about.
Never post here but came on to applaud this. Well said.
No. Just seen this. It’s embarassing, Man Utd having a stadium like OT is a disgrace, we are literally the laughing stock of world football. Woodward out.
It's been refuted multiple times on this fecking thread - your own thread - you must have seen.
Well played
Isn’t the “announce ...” on social media a tongue in cheek thing all footballs fans are doing?
I'd love to agree but the club is in a worrying state of affairs right now and to think otherwise is admirable, actually.
I cant really argue with our spending since fergie retired. I think we've splashed out considering we broke the world transfer record and also have one of the worlds highest wage bill. We should be in a better position than we currently are though.
Imo, facebook comments, tweets and even this forum have little affect on our players actual performance. From my experience footballers thrive of the stadium they play at, the players they play with, the management they play for and the wages they are paid. For instance when you go to OT and you've seen the vast majority of the crowd singing Jose's, Pogbas or De Geas praises you wont see them referring to social media opinions in post match interviews. It's crazy to see the stark contrast in feelings towards the team from the match going crowd to the internet folk.
Having said all that it's easier to vent behind a screen than it is in person. All the hashtags and social media are just giving the club more hits, more exposure and ultimately bad press is good press.
I cant really argue with our spending since fergie retired. I think we've splashed out considering we broke the world transfer record and also have one of the worlds highest wage bill. We should be in a better position than we currently are though.
Imo, facebook comments, tweets and even this forum have little affect on our players actual performance. From my experience footballers thrive of the stadium they play at, the players they play with, the management they play for and the wages they are paid. For instance when you go to OT and you've seen the vast majority of the crowd singing Jose's, Pogbas or De Geas praises you wont see them referring to social media opinions in post match interviews. It's crazy to see the stark contrast in feelings towards the team from the match going crowd to the internet folk.
Having said all that it's easier to vent behind a screen than it is in person. All the hashtags and social media are just giving the club more hits, more exposure and ultimately bad press is good press.
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What will it take before the board (I say board and not owners because the owners, with all due respect, aren't fans but American businessmen) take action? At least the board, despite how incompetent they are, probably acknowledge how big a club this is not only commercially but historically.
I'm only 24, I wasn't old enough to see the demise of liverpool or even Leeds but what is currently happening at the club is definitely worrying. We are in a different era now with state sponsored oligarchs owning clubs but we as a commercial monster have shown we can spend, we can pay top wages yet we are not progressing at all.
We are being managed terribly in all aspects and ultimately the glazers are culpable, despite them allowing such money to be spent. They would go up in my estimation if they actually showed more interest in the welfare of the club if that meant they were more frugal.
What will it take before the board (I say board and not owners because the owners, with all due respect, aren't fans but American businessmen) take action? At least the board, despite how incompetent they are, probably acknowledge how big a club this is not only commercially but historically.
I'm only 24, I wasn't old enough to see the demise of liverpool or even Leeds but what is currently happening at the club is definitely worrying. We are in a different era now with state sponsored oligarchs owning clubs but we as a commercial monster have shown we can spend, we can pay top wages yet we are not progressing at all.
We are being managed terribly in all aspects and ultimately the glazers are culpable, despite them allowing such money to be spent. They would go up in my estimation if they actually showed more interest in the welfare of the club if that meant they were more frugal.
I really struggle with this place these days. The hysteria is crazy, so many mood swings!
The latest craziness surrounding DDG really gets to me. Yes the lad had some poor form at the end of the season, but some of the revision art statements about his ability are appalling.
As fans we demand loyalty, yet we talk about and treat players like DDG and Pogba (see last game at OT with the fan) this way? Is it any wonder that players will naturally want away from the constant negativity.
The latest craziness surrounding DDG really gets to me. Yes the lad had some poor form at the end of the season, but some of the revision art statements about his ability are appalling.
As fans we demand loyalty, yet we talk about and treat players like DDG and Pogba (see last game at OT with the fan) this way? Is it any wonder that players will naturally want away from the constant negativity.
You think Pogba and DDG will be treated better by Madrid fans if they end up there?!
The problem is unfortunately United seems a strange club. In that, we had a problem after Busby, now the same after Ferguson. A bit of a pattern......
To try and break away from that culture seems to cause us problems historically. Hell even Liverpool had a problem for years before Klopp. It's just one of those things.
I don't doubt we'll get it right. Will probably take a while knowing what we're like, but we will be ok eventually. I just hope they get it together before I die
You're not that old are you?
At least they'll win trophies for their troubles.
The difference: we're paying their wages. We deserve a certain level of respect and hardwork. And if fans feel like they aren't getting that, they have every right to have a go at the player. It's why Diego Forlan was never jeered despite his lack of ability. Fans, especially matchgoing fans, know when a player isn't putting the effort in on the pitch. And they also know exactly how much these players earn in a week. If the players expect a certain level of respect, they must in the work on the field and give that respect back to the fans. Otherwise it'll continue to get ugly.
That's not really the point!