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Gorsuch not exactly working out as Trump expected. Roberts also siding with the majority.

 

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Gorsuch not exactly working out as Trump expected. Roberts also siding with the majority.

Yep he's a traitor! Now I am waiting to see how trump tries to take credit for the ruling when he is campaigning even though his administration tried to put all LGBT workers in jeopardy.
 

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Yep he's a traitor! Now I am waiting to see how trump tries to take credit for the ruling when he is campaigning even though his administration tried to put all LGBT workers in jeopardy.
He's basically turning into a Souter/Kennedy type. Someone who neither side can consistently rely on, which would be a bit of a win for the Dems since he replaced Scalia.
 
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He's basically turning into a Souter/Kennedy type. Someone how neither side can consistently rely on, which would be a bit of a win for the Dems since he replaced Scalia.
Souter was a reliable vote for the left...

He's probably why they vet judges thoughts in high school now
 

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He's basically turning into a Souter/Kennedy type. Someone who neither side can consistently rely on, which would be a bit of a win for the Dems since he replaced Scalia.
Everything seems finetuned. He replaces the constitutionalist Scalia, while constitutionalist Kavanaugh replaced the right-center Kennedy. In the end, the resulting of the court is more or less the same, perhaps with Roberts going towards the center.

It is quite crazy though how much power the SCOTUS have in the US. Like it or not (and while I fully agree that morally speaking this was the correct decision) they rewrite laws with almost every decision they make. Which makes the SCOTUS amendment the constitution rather than interpreting it.

The US could really do with a new constitution IMO.
 
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Everything seems finetuned. He replaces the constitutionalist Scalia, while constitutionalist Kavanaugh replaced the right-center Kennedy. In the end, the resulting of the court is more or less the same, perhaps with Roberts going towards the center.

It is quite crazy though how much power the SCOTUS have in the US. Like it or not (and while I fully agree that morally speaking this was the correct decision) they rewrite laws with almost every decision they make. Which makes the SCOTUS amendment the constitution rather than interpreting it.

The US could really do with a new constitution IMO.
Definitely, you could even sneak in something about bears with no arms. I would neuter the presidency somewhat and put stipulations on qualifications like previous public representation, IQ and civic exams.
 

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Everything seems finetuned. He replaces the constitutionalist Scalia, while constitutionalist Kavanaugh replaced the right-center Kennedy. In the end, the resulting of the court is more or less the same, perhaps with Roberts going towards the center.

It is quite crazy though how much power the SCOTUS have in the US. Like it or not (and while I fully agree that morally speaking this was the correct decision) they rewrite laws with almost every decision they make. Which makes the SCOTUS amendment the constitution rather than interpreting it.

The US could really do with a new constitution IMO.
What’s scarier is the cadre of conservative judges McConnell et al keep installing. That’s going to scar us for decades.
 

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You have to wonder just how dumb Cruz is. He's getting humiliated on the internet and continues digging.

Gym Jordan must be fuming that Cruz is bringing up his wrestling controversey.

 

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Gorsuch is a strict originalist/textualist, so he will decide based on the letter of the law as it was written regardless of any moral considerations or need to update said law. So even though he’s conservative to the bone he will freely break with that side on major decisions if he sees fit.

Surely they knew this going in...?
 

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Things must be bad if Engel has gone running to Clinton asking for her endorsement.

 

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Things must be bad if Engel has gone running to Clinton asking for her endorsement.

He is having massive problems in the primaries. Which is why he has been endorsed from essentially every established Democrat key figure except Schumers.
 

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Gorsuch is a strict originalist/textualist, so he will decide based on the letter of the law as it was written regardless of any moral considerations or need to update said law. So even though he’s conservative to the bone he will freely break with that side on major decisions if he sees fit.

Surely they knew this going in...?
Not sure the law said much about transgenders etc. I think that Gorsuch went for whatever reasons with 'what is right' (same as Roberts) despite being a constitutionalist.

Obviously, the better way would have been for the congress to legislate, but the congress in the US is paralyzed for these type of decisions, which essentially allows the judges to legislate.
 

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Not sure the law said much about transgenders etc. I think that Gorsuch went for whatever reasons with 'what is right' (same as Roberts) despite being a constitutionalist.
No, it’s not immediately apparent but in his mind he’s still going by the letter of the law. It had nothing to do with morality:

Consider, for example, an employer with two employees, both of whom are attracted to men. The two individuals are, to the employer’s mind, materially identical in all respects, except that one is a man and the other a woman. If the employer fires the male employee for no reason other than the fact he is attracted to men, the employer discriminates against him for traits or actions it tolerates in his female colleague. Put differently, the employer intentionally singles out an employee to fire based in part on the employee’s sex, and the affected employee’s sex is a but-for cause of his discharge. Or take an employer who fires a transgender person who was identified as a male at birth but who now identifies as a female. If the employer retains an otherwise identical employee who was identified as female at birth, the employer intentionally penalizes a person identified as male at birth for traits or actions that it tolerates in an employee identified as female at birth. Again, the individual employee’s sex plays an unmistakable and impermissible role in the discharge decision.

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No, it’s not immediately apparent but in his mind he’s still going by the letter of the law. It had nothing to do with morality:


edit: Slate source
Thanks for this. Interesting!

To be fair, Alito who is also a constitutionalist dissented saying that it has nothing to do if it is moral or not, more like that there is nothing in law about it, so it is a matter of congress.
 

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He is having massive problems in the primaries. Which is why he has been endorsed from essentially every established Democrat key figure except Schumers.
Reckon Engel will still win. That district includes parts of Westchester County which is one of the most affluent counties in the USA and i highly doubt those rich white people will be voting for Bowman.