US Soccer: No equal pay “because men have more responsibility”

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Now you name fewer than 5 female footballers,, bet you can't! no cheating!

wtf man
 

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Megan Rapinoe is an idiot who has done nothing but talk absolute shite for years without a fact in sight. Why would you believe anything she says?

The judge says they were offered the exact same deal, so obviously they were because the USSF did something called providing actual facts and numbers of the case. Something the USWNT have failed to do throughout.

They asked to be under the men’s contract and were refused because they had already declined it and negotiated a different one.
Well to be honest I hadn't heard of her before the 2019 World Cup, so I didn't know enough about her to judge whether what she says is reliable or not.

The only 2 members of the USWNT squad at the 2019 World Cup that I'd heard of before the tournament were Alex Morgan and Carli Lloyd. I had heard of quite a few of the European players however.
 

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So I've read even more about it and now it just gets me angry.

I feel strongly about women pay gap, especially working in technology where women can be looked down upon in a men dominated field.

For anyone to take advantage of the exisitng issue of gender pay gap and use it for a contract they didnt negotiate is messed up.
 

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Now you name fewer than 5 female footballers,, bet you can't! no cheating!

wtf man
The only ones I have ever heard off are normally always to do with non performance issues. Latest is loudmouth Rapinoe who is always shouting her mouth off.
 

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The only ones I have ever heard off are normally always to do with non performance issues. Latest is loudmouth Rapinoe who is always shouting her mouth off.
I was being facetious because the argument ‘you can’t name more than three players’ is a really shit one and proves nothing.
 

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I can name 2 players.
Rapinoe as she's a mouth and Stephanie Roche because she's got a goal that got her a Fifa nomination for goal of the year a while back.

I've zero interest in ladies football.

But I will say they should be paid as they earn. If they earn more than US men then so be it. But if they rejected a deal they can do one
 

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Interesting development in this:

USWNT Players Association: U.S. Soccer's identical deals proposal is a 'PR stunt' (espn.com)

The USWNT was apparently offered the same contract as the men and are calling it a PR stunt. It is tough to chose a side in this situation as I think both sides (USWNT and US Soccer) are being disingenuous in their arguments. The women were offered the men's contract last time and turned it down as their contract was more lucrative than the men's at the base pay level (ie, the top women's players receive a guaranteed salary while the men only get paid if they play in a game). That makes sense. On the flip side the men's team gets paid more if they win something, especially the WC ( :lol: ) because the FIFA bonus pool is higher. Essentially the USWNT wants both guaranteed salaries and also WC share the size of the men's, even though that is "dictated" by FIFA.

I guess I would say pay them since at least they win shit, but I wish they would stop yelling about how they are getting paid less then the men when the opposite is true (when it comes to salary).

The caveat to the above is I am basing it on what I can gather from media reports and, seeing as how soccer/football reporting in the US is rather shit and very biased one way or the other I may be completely wrong.
 

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I firmly believe in equal pay for men and women in general

But if the men’s game is getting millions more bums in seats and millions more TV viewership then of course they are going to get more money.

Just like how I can’t go down the karaoke club and expect to be paid like Dua Lipa claiming equal pay rights.

It’s a simple explanation for those who have to justify it. They don’t help themselves by instead saying things like “because men are better at football”
 

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I firmly believe in equal pay for men and women in general

But if the men’s game is getting millions more bums in seats and millions more TV viewership then of course they are going to get more money.

Just like how I can’t go down the karaoke club and expect to be paid like Dua Lipa claiming equal pay rights.

It’s a simple explanation for those who have to justify it. They don’t help themselves by instead saying things like “because men are better at football”
Men bring more millions because they are better at the sports