VAR and Refereeing 2025/26 | General Discussion

Can't beleive they want to add corners to VAR next season

The system is complete crap and winds paying fans up in most games, so lets add to it.

I don't know how they can't see that mistakes from refs in the games used to be part of the fun.
 
BeforeKeanetherewasRobson said:
They apparently missed this too, but I don’t care other than the look on Pedros face is hilarious. What’s the defender doing behind him?!! :eek:

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Just seen the video that carries on from the above still.

How is that not a pen on Pedro? Since when can you wrap both arms around a player, completely holding him… as well as the goalie just missing punching him

 
I can understand the holding not being punished because they’ve let that go all season so to call it from the VAR room would’ve been inconsistent given they’ve ignored players who are literally running away from the ball to tackle players, but there’s a clear movement of the arm towards the ball at head height which is simply inexcusable to not give a penalty for.
 
BeforeKeanetherewasRobson said:
Just seen the video that carries on from the above still.

How is that not a pen on Pedro? Since when can you wrap both arms around a player, completely holding him… as well as the goalie just missing punching him

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Who's the guy literally riding the Chelsea player like his donkey in the background (I'm crap at identifying players).
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Flicked the fingers of a hand which was higher than his head. You couldn’t ask for a more obvious “unnatural position” penalty. He blocked a goalbound header as well. VAR asleep at the wheel.

Another bizarre VAR cock up was when Cunha was tripped by a knee in the back of his thigh, as he was running into the box, in the second half. Much more obvious penalty than the first one.
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It’s a blatant of a handball as you can see all season. Wins header, defender takes pace off ball with his fingers. Madness wasn’t given
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
Can't beleive they want to add corners to VAR next season

The system is complete crap and winds paying fans up in most games, so lets add to it.

I don't know how they can't see that mistakes from refs in the games used to be part of the fun.
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Var going on for minutes on end while you’re in the ground is the worst possible thing that has happened to football.
Again and again it’s proven that the match going fans mean nothing to the people in charge of football
 
BeforeKeanetherewasRobson said:
Just seen the video that carries on from the above still.

How is that not a pen on Pedro? Since when can you wrap both arms around a player, completely holding him… as well as the goalie just missing punching him

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:lol: It’s such a blatant foul. What is the point in var killing the game if they choose to turn a blind eye to whatever they feel like
 
I think both are penalties, so to not get at least one is harsh. But arsenal seem to get away with whatever they want when defending their own box, and get away with fouling whoever they want at the other end. Then fall to the floor and get the soft decisions too. There's a weird duality to them.
 
Every week we see these blatant ridiculous decisions or lack thereof.

I'm starting to think VAR is ragebaiting the fans.
Either that or two old 'trading places' fossils at the FA are having a bet on retuning the game to Rugby Football.
 
2 man midfield said:
I think both are penalties, so to not get at least one is harsh. But arsenal seem to get away with whatever they want when defending their own box, and get away with fouling whoever they want at the other end. Then fall to the floor and get the soft decisions too. There's a weird duality to them.
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The timing of this duality is quite something too. We’re watching a team win the premier league almost entirely due to their ability to get away with fouling the shit out of other teams at corners. In real time.
 
arsenal games regularly descend into utter ridicule and today was no different.
It’s like they are playing a different sport (and not in a good or entertaining way)
Anyone “defending “ whilst impeding an opposing player whilst not looking at the ball should be committing a foul and yet refs plus stevie wonder on var does nothing.
It’s actually disgraceful
 
Top_Bins said:
Every week we see these blatant ridiculous decisions or lack thereof.

I'm starting to think VAR is ragebaiting the fans.
Either that or two old 'trading places' fossils at the FA are having a bet on retuning the game to Rugby Football.
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Or Ant and Dec are in the studio saying “and now let that go and book the Chelsea player for diving”
 
Any player looking away from the ball and tussling with an opponent should be an automatic foul (like Rice in that video). You’re clearly not playing football if you’re not even looking at the round thing which is the point of the sport while preventing someone, who is looking at it, from reaching it.
 
Zlatan 7 said:
:lol: It’s such a blatant foul. What is the point in var killing the game if they choose to turn a blind eye to whatever they feel like
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This is the most important point. If VAR had no downsides then any mistakes it managed to correct could be seen as a bonus. But for me, and plenty of others, it's ruining the game in so many ways that it simply has to be scrapped.
 
BeforeKeanetherewasRobson said:
Just seen the video that carries on from the above still.

How is that not a pen on Pedro? Since when can you wrap both arms around a player, completely holding him… as well as the goalie just missing punching him

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If you scroll through that video not only is Pedro being rugby tackled, Rice has his back to goal holding down another Chelsea player while Hincapie pushes him in the back; in the background Zubimendi's (thanks @Attila) riding yet another Chelsea player like a horse while at the front of the picture another Chelsea player's being shackled by Timber's (I think) arms. The keeper getting the ball while smacking Pedro in the head is almost immaterial. It's fecking ridiculous that a foul isn't given here.

I think I got the players right. I tried to find out what each one looked like.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
The red card situation was one where he was always going to check with VAR, seeing as he has VAR to use. That’s just human nature. Why make a call like that in real time when he can reserve judgement and look at a slo mo replay?

As for the other two incidents, I’ve absolutely no problem with a referee missing either of them in real time. I have a huge issue with a technology that’s been foisted on us, at the expense of entertainment, yet is still apparently unable to pick up and correct obvious errors like these.
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Since when was Kavanagh checking anything with VAR? He was told to review the situation after his decision was to not even show a yellow card. It could’ve easily been another «well, is it clear and obvious that he’s wrong, i’m not touching it»

Also, sure, up to a point you can understand a referee not spotting the handball, but he’s literally got both arms around the player to prevent him from even getting his arms up and it’s not an isolated situation. They’re just letting it go, all of it
 
Just got round to watching the Burnley v Brentford highlights. Both disallowed goals for Burnley an absolute joke
 
Was talking to a Wolves fan today, who's also a referee, hates VAR and is looking forward to the Championship games next season without it.

Chelsea denied a couple of clear penalties today on corners, but the one at 1-1 was clearly a pen, just shows refs pick and choose when to intervene with the clear and obvious calls.

A cynical person would think with the City charges still hanging around, it's got to be Arsenal that win the league and they'll get all the calls to get them there over City.
 
jaffa268 said:
Nope, cunha got goalside of his man and foul ended inside the area - which is where it matters, and the defender denied Cunha a goal scoring opportunity by making the foul which wasn’t playing the ball - and that’s the crucial point. There is no ambiguity over this at all today, I’m concerned there are so many people unsure about it being ‘soft’ and how we would be annoyed - if it happened to us we shouldnt be annoyed as those are the actual rules and credit for a change that the ref and VAR (eventually) got it correct - unlike Mbeumbo against Brentford incident.
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acnumber9 said:
It’s not about where it starts but where it ends. You also don’t have to be last defender. He’s denied a clear goal scoring opportunity. It defies belief that the ref needed VAR to tell him it was a red.
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Thanks for replies, guys. Honestly thought it's about where the foul starts. Not sure about some of the rules these days anymore.
 
BeforeKeanetherewasRobson said:
Just seen the video that carries on from the above still.

How is that not a pen on Pedro? Since when can you wrap both arms around a player, completely holding him… as well as the goalie just missing punching him

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Ever since the pre match officials meeting, where they flipped a coin to decide which rules to apply. Happens before every match. I'm surprised more fans aren't aware that this happens.
 
BeforeKeanetherewasRobson said:
Just seen the video that carries on from the above still.

How is that not a pen on Pedro? Since when can you wrap both arms around a player, completely holding him… as well as the goalie just missing punching him

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It’s a fecking joke, it pisses me off no end. Especially since Arsenal got that weak foul on Gabriel against Spurs. Fecking dogshit team.
 
Watching this again on motd.

Fouls on both corners they scored from, defenders just being held down so they can't actually react and defend the ball.

The Joao Pedro one just gets worse everytime you see it.
 
First the Gabriel dive and now this. Refs and VAR seem to be bending backwards to help Arsenal win the league.
 
RedDevil@84 said:
First the Gabriel dive and now this. Refs and VAR seem to be bending backwards to help Arsenal win the league.
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They don't want City winning another title as they're already causing issues by whats going to need to be done with the 115 charges.

I'm not usually a conspiracy theorist (United do get shocking decisions in general) but what we're seeing with Arsenal is becoming blatant.

I remember Liverpool getting an unusual amounts of penalties a few years ago, But this Arsenal side are getting away with everything and are getting soft fouls in their favour too.

Shocking stuff really.
 
Arsenal players in at least two different instances with both arms wrapped around Chelsea players holding/dragging them down - no intention of playing the ball. No pen. Not a single mention on MoTD neither. Odd
 
Didn't even merit a mention on MoTD beyond Joe Hart saying it was a "different situation I'm not going to get into right now" while praising what was an excellent Reya performance. Wot's going on?
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
Can't beleive they want to add corners to VAR next season

The system is complete crap and winds paying fans up in most games, so lets add to it.

I don't know how they can't see that mistakes from refs in the games used to be part of the fun.
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I've always thought it was weird that, if they're doing a VAR review of a goal scored from a corner they don't check whether the corner should have actually been given in the first place, so if they're restricting the use of VAR to only corners resulting in goals I can see a benefit.

But let's be honest, that's not how they'll implement it.
 
It's blatantly obvious that Arsenal will win the EPL. Their games are being reffed as if it's been decided.
 
They need to allow a fan to host the Match Officials Mic'd Up and pick the clips, so they can provide direct comparisons and make Webb explain them.
 
I genuinely want to know the reason refs won’t call these obvious fouls… Would love for a player to hysterically flail their arms around when they are being grabbed to make a point, or even do something like catch the ball in mid air to make an example of them being bear hugged by the arsenal players.. or better yet elbow one of them in the face... surely when they look back it will be undeniable that the first foul committed would be from the arsenal player
 
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Ekkie Thump said:
As far as I'm concerned there is absolutely no justification for not giving a penalty there. It's so obviously a penalty it blows my mind that anyone, competent or incompetent could come to an alternative conclusion.
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MOTD show it…but only to discuss Raya performance

Hart comments ‘your eyes go to rice and hato. That’s a different conversation and I’m not gonna have that now’

Unbelievable
 
BeforeKeanetherewasRobson said:
Just seen the video that carries on from the above still.

How is that not a pen on Pedro? Since when can you wrap both arms around a player, completely holding him… as well as the goalie just missing punching him

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At least 3 Arsenal players committed foul in that play, it's unreal how they get away with so much nonsense every game.
 
For a corner, just have 8 defenders - 6 attackers in the 6 yard box and have a royal rumble style wrestling match, last team remaining wins.

Alternatively we could just have fouls called for pulling, holding, obstruction when they happen in the box at a corner, the same way they are used everywhere else on the field...

Personally I prefer the second option, but I'm kinda old fashioned that way
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
Can't beleive they want to add corners to VAR next season

The system is complete crap and winds paying fans up in most games, so lets add to it.

I don't know how they can't see that mistakes from refs in the games used to be part of the fun.
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Now it's mistakes made by refs sitting at a desk miles away.

Fed up of it.
 
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