VAR and Refereeing 2025/26 | General Discussion

It was a clear dive. He delayed and then flopped himself to the ground while screaming out. Don't know why there were grumbles from the commentators.

Joelinton should have been red carded earlier for a second yellow for the sarcastic applause. Dalot would have got one for doing that...

No sympathy there. Yet the dirty tw@ts still took the points.
 
It doesn’t but that second half he gave them everything. Like Dalot and Gordon both holding each others shirt, Gordon drops to the floor holding his foot and gives a free kick. Useless prick.
Newcastle are very, very good at winning cheap free kicks. They must practise it a lot, happens all the time in their games and the refs let it go.
 
So ref has give the second yellow, than evens it up by giving a somewhat soft penalty, than spends the entire second half giving Newcastle every decision. Backed himself into a corner with his yellow card flurry and than put them firmly away in the second half.
 
Fouls, Utd 16, Newcastle 15.

He was too whistle happy all game
 
So ref has give the second yellow, than evens it up by giving a somewhat soft penalty, than spends the entire second half giving Newcastle every decision. Backed himself into a corner with his yellow card flurry and than put them firmly away in the second half.

It definitely wasn’t a soft penalty. Was a soft red if anything.
 
It definitely wasn’t a soft penalty. Was a soft red if anything.
The red given was soft, but joelinton should never have finished that game. The dissent after his card, followed by trying to spend maguire every time he went for a header, didnt even look at the ball. And Dan burn could easily have seen red too
 
Such a frustrating ref tonight. Got conned all evening by players diving when they were barely touched. Football has got so terrible to watch, particularly defenders going to ground as soon as they get any sort of touch to get free kicks out. The only player that didn't get away with it was Ramsey
 


Joelinton's sarcastic applause went on for even longer than Grealish's as well.


We were told when Lacey threw the ball into the ground the referee had no choice to use his discretion, he just had to send him off because rules is rules.. but that was just Simon Hopper bullying a kid.

This prick tonight let them away with so much crap after the red and fell for all their diving, absolutely useless.
 
Not sure where to stand on Fulham's disallowed penalty. The West Ham player impedes him but is just there, not even trying to tackle him.
But at the same time Wilson kicks him without knowing he's there.
Weird one, but i would go 60/40 with No Penalty.
 
I agree. They had the better of Maz all game. We look so much worse with him on. Add braindead Dalot and we have the worst fullback pairing in the league.
Nonsense. Mazraoui was one of our better players and is a solid performer. I'm not even sure why your mentioning him, did you think it was he who gave away the penalty and not Bruno?
 
The red given was soft, but joelinton should never have finished that game. The dissent after his card, followed by trying to spend maguire every time he went for a header, didnt even look at the ball. And Dan burn could easily have seen red too
The Burn one really fecked me off. He has a little feel for Shaw’s jaw with a sneaky but soft elbow then once he knows his positioning, purposefully elbows him in the chops. It was snide as feck and you have cnuts like McCoist all night loving shit like that and laughing it off.
 
couldn’t understand why the Burn on Shaw one wasn’t looked at at all, my commentary completely played it down. One of ours on one of them and it would have certainly been red.

Trippier kicking it off himself at the end and getting a goal kick. Ref seemed a bit eager to please him a couple of times.

Re the Ramsey red, I reckon it was a case of the ref forgetting he’d already booked him then had to follow through.
 
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Jacob’s second yellow was surprising. He did dive and yes by the letter of the law it’s the correct decision. I think the issue is that the ref looks at that 9 times out of 10 and just waves away the penalty, this time he was sure it was simulation so it kind of comes back to lack of consistency. My solution would be to take simulation out of the refs hands and retrospectively ban Ramsey for 1 game upon review afterwards.

On the other hand, Joelinton should have definitely seen red for the sarcastic clapping. Now that 9 times out of 10 ends up in a red.
 
couldn’t understand why the Burn on Shaw one wasn’t look at at all, my commentary completely played it down. One of ours on one of them and it would have certainly been red.

Trippier kicking it off himself at the end and getting a goal kick. Ref seemed a bit eager to please him a couple of times.

I missed the Burn one, but just seen it back now. The fact that he elbows him, then does it again but with a harder wind up... I'm baffled that didn't get looked at.
 
I missed the Burn one, but just seen it back now. The fact that he elbows him, then does it again but with a harder wind up... I'm baffled that didn't get looked at.
Commentary completely brushed it aside. Obvious agenda really.
 
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So far this season we’ve had

- Throat grab
- Deliberate stamp on player on the ground
- Deliberate elbow to head
- Blatant sarcastic applause at the referee

not being properly sanctioned against us, when they are some of the most obvious rules they could apply. What else do we need for the full bingo? Opposition player spitting at one of ours?

It’s such bollocks that you need to go down like a sack of shit and stay down for two minutes pretending you’re injured for referees to take notice and send someone off for something that’s a clear violation of the laws. And it’s bollocks that while you know that you need to do that, our Players just refuse to do what is necessary. How many points does that fair play equate to over a season?
 
Jacob’s second yellow was surprising. He did dive and yes by the letter of the law it’s the correct decision. I think the issue is that the ref looks at that 9 times out of 10 and just waves away the penalty, this time he was sure it was simulation so it kind of comes back to lack of consistency. My solution would be to take simulation out of the refs hands and retrospectively ban Ramsey for 1 game upon review afterwards.

On the other hand, Joelinton should have definitely seen red for the sarcastic clapping. Now that 9 times out of 10 ends up in a red.

The ref in the City game looked at Haaland diving and let it go.
 
The ref in the City game looked at Haaland diving and let it go.
Didn’t see it but that’s why it was surprising. The refs are supposed to book players for diving but to be fair you don’t see it often, a lot of the time they let it go.
 
Didn’t see it but that’s why it was surprising. The refs are supposed to book players for diving but to be fair you don’t see it often, a lot of the time they let it go.

Probably didn’t book Haaland because it was an absolutely blatant penalty. Would have been doubling down on a really terrible decision.



Incredible how much help Arsenal have been getting from VAR these last few weeks.
 
Probably didn’t book Haaland because it was an absolutely blatant penalty. Would have been doubling down on a really terrible decision.



Incredible how much help Arsenal have been getting from VAR these last few weeks.


Haaland was absolutely shafted last night.

After that incident he was trying to get a shot away and the defender had his arms wrapped around him pulling him backwards so that his eventual shot was weak as piss.
 
Didn’t see it but that’s why it was surprising. The refs are supposed to book players for diving but to be fair you don’t see it often, a lot of the time they let it go.


This one where he clearly throws his right leg into the keeper looking for contact. No idea how either of those gowls thought this was anything more than an attempt to cheat.

 
City denied a clear pen and Brighton denied one as well. Don't need to be a genius to see what's going on. Maybe Spurs will go down by a point, so could be a silver lining.

Bigger picture, football is just an unfair as ever, VAR should be scrapped. It'll still be unfair but at least the game will be faster and a goal given will be a goal etc.
 
Probably didn’t book Haaland because it was an absolutely blatant penalty. Would have been doubling down on a really terrible decision.



Incredible how much help Arsenal have been getting from VAR these last few weeks.

I know it's conspiracy territory but it is weird how many decisions have gone in Arsenals favour in the past few weeks.
 
Maybe this is how the PL are dishing out the punishment to City rather than through the outcome of the hearing.
 
I know it's conspiracy territory but it is weird how many decisions have gone in Arsenals favour in the past few weeks.

It’s really bizarre. The best thing about the incident last night is you can clearly see the keeper, who slides across Haaland’s path and gets a belt in the face as he clatters him, briefly hold his head before realising how bad that would look and immediately take his hand away. All clear as day on replay. And yet, somehow, this blatantly incriminating replay gets immediately ignored.
 
This one where he clearly throws his right leg into the keeper looking for contact. No idea how either of those gowls thought this was anything more than an attempt to cheat.



Dude, if you ever find yourself claiming that Dermot Gallagher is being unfairly critical of a referee you need to have a serious rethink about your own opinion on the incident.
 
Who the feck ever wanted offside calls like that? Offside by his nose 40 yards from goal. Load of bollocks. Scrap VAR, it’s is, has always been and will always be shite.
 
The truly maddening aspect of VAR for me is that they still get so many decisions so wrong whilst taking an absolute age to call goals like Casemiro’s against West Ham back because clearly the tip of his kneecap was off according to laser technology.
Quoting myself here although supposedly it was a forehead this time. Just feck it off already.
 
just make it furthest forward part of the foot only, else we’re making key decisions based on the lean of a player or if he’s got a big nose.
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