VAR and Refereeing 2025/26 | General Discussion

I assume that's aimed at me- sleeper agent cos I'm not crying when we don't get every decision. We got a handball goal against pool last week ffs.

I probably found the shirt pulling yellows not given today more annoying tbh cos there's so little scope for subjectivity. with those.
No it’s not, don’t be so touchy.

Everyone’s allowed an opinion
 
We've neve had that consistency and never will unfortunately, unless we move to AI refs. Even then some decisions will always divide opinion.

Suggesting AI refs would be consistent is hilarious. They'd just make up their own rules and would even more inconsistent than human refs.
 
I just want consistency. If the Casemiro and Martinez ones are reds, this definitely is.

I agree, in a world where Martinez and Ballard are getting sent off for barely more than brushing their hands through an opponents hair, then it's to be expected that fans get wound up by Silva getting away with a malicious slap out in a moment of frustration.

I don't want to see any of them get a red card, but this is the climate they have created.
 
Why does it matter?

VIOLENT CONDUCT

Violent conduct is when a player uses or attempts to use excessive force or brutality against an opponent when not challenging for the ball, or against a team-mate, team official, match official, spectator or any other person, regardless of whether contact is made.

In addition, a player who, when not challenging for the ball, deliberately strikes an opponent or any other person on the head or face with the hand or arm, is guilty of violent conduct unless the force used was negligible.


This was clearly not negligible which makes is as clear a red card as you’ll ever see, yet the nuances always come out to explain why simple, letter-of-the-law, decisions don’t go our way while others get off on such technicalities.

Any referee that is for a system where you can watch video evidence of a missed off-the-ball incident and deem that the fair outcome is a drop-ball to Sunderland is simply dishonest and not adhering to the rules, thereby making them unfit for the job.
Was it deliberate?
 
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...all-news/bruno-fernandes-var-man-utd-33919419

Dean: "I’m not sure what’s happening — they’ve obviously had a look at it; they’re not doing anything, they’ve just had a chat with Fernandes and check complete. You run the risk with VAR; that could have gone either way.”

Merson: “They didn’t even book him, Mike.”

Dean: “Well, it’s May, isn’t it?”

Simon Thomas: “What? It might be May for you, but the referee’s still got a job to do, hasn’t he?”

 
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...all-news/bruno-fernandes-var-man-utd-33919419

Dean: "I’m not sure what’s happening — they’ve obviously had a look at it; they’re not doing anything, they’ve just had a chat with Fernandes and check complete. You run the risk with VAR; that could have gone either way.”

Merson: “They didn’t even book him, Mike.”

Dean: “Well, it’s May, isn’t it?”

Simon Thomas: “What? It might be May for you, but the referee’s still got a job to do, hasn’t he?”



It's feckin May!!? What the feck is this shit
 
The audacity of football fans wanting a red card in May of all months will never cease to amaze me...
 
The last 2/3 seasons have really made me question if I just have red tinted glasses on at all times. We get really obvious decisions go against us, yet you'll hear pundits and refs defend them anyway.
Same here. I don’t (or didn’t) subscribe to those ABU conspiracy bollocks but it’s getting really hard to ignore all these obvious calls against us and majority of the media and pundits also just going along with it.
 
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...all-news/bruno-fernandes-var-man-utd-33919419

Dean: "I’m not sure what’s happening — they’ve obviously had a look at it; they’re not doing anything, they’ve just had a chat with Fernandes and check complete. You run the risk with VAR; that could have gone either way.”

Merson: “They didn’t even book him, Mike.”

Dean: “Well, it’s May, isn’t it?”

Simon Thomas: “What? It might be May for you, but the referee’s still got a job to do, hasn’t he?”



:lol: the incompetence is unbelievable.
 
So we can add the earth's orbit around the sun to the list of reasons we get reffed differently. Cool.
 
I'm a police officer and I choose not to arrest anyone on Fridays because it's almost the weekend. Even if I witness a robbery in process, I just let it happen.
 
That response from Dean is laughable. It’s actually so quite unbelievable that I’m just laughing as I think of it :lol:
It’s the classic ‘I have no argument so I’ll say something silly’.

Just fecking admit it was wrong.
 
Wasn’t it Dean who claimed it couldn’t be a penalty “in a game like this” when one of the city defenders wrapped himself around Hoijlund?

Is anyone really surprised at the lengths they’ll go to in excusing laughable calls?
 
The rest of that exchange makes it clear that was a joke and Dean actually criticises the referees decision.


Dean: "I'm just annoyed about decisions in games where they're just not making decisions. Fulham's a prime example today. Just a poor performance on the pitch.
"They're just not making decisions on the pitch. Joking apart, May or not - that's an easy decision to make. We've had a penalty shout five minutes before with Man United, that could have gone either way, a challenge in another game, they're just not making decisions and I don't know why that is."

Thomas: "Is that something they're going to have to address this summer?"

Dean: "They're going to have to, because it's just not good enough. We were talking earlier off-air about it, it's easier to go red, make a big and brave decision and go red card, and everybody's happy if they [the decisions] stay on-field because it's a good decision. I think they're just scared of going red, they're just petrified."
 
The Sunderland player should have gone for being a sneaky bellend, regardless of force.

But then Licha could also have gone.
 
The audacity of football fans wanting a red card in May of all months will never cease to amaze me...
How’s a player supposed to have a proper pre-season knowing he’ll be suspended for the opener? Completely ruins the pre-season as a spectacle. Might even rob his chances of a move.
 
How ironic, Arsenal get a goal against chalked off for a foul on a corner, when they score multiple goals fouling everyone