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Calvert Lewin literally elbowed Yoro in the back of the head in the lead up to their opener
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Calvert Lewin literally elbowed Yoro in the back of the head in the lead up to their opener
To be fair I genuinely can't remember us being on the wrong end of any shockers. Made up that a I can justifiably wear my compo face though.
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Calvert Lewin literally elbowed Yoro in the back of the head in the lead up to their opener
His head was in an unnatural position.
No one likes Leeds..., so I'm all in favour of that.
As for the rest, selective reviewing is still the biggest problem along with the changing of the frame used for offsides from one game and one team to another.
Diogo Dalot escaping a red card wrongly according to that while Howard Webb defended the yellow according to the laws.
Do these guys have their own little rulebook as well with a different set of rules? And which one of them is right, given Webb’s recent comments that went against the rules available to us mere mortals when he commented on the Mbeumo handball?
Yeah, the article lists Mbeumo's handball as one of two wrongly rejected VAR reviews. They just refuse to apply their own rules when convenient.
The most fun thing about BBC showing this is how at adds it is with the sycophancy there has been in the build-up to the CL Final. Hilarious really.
I think what amazes me most about that list is that the KMI panel felt that Rice's handball in Arsenal's home match vs Chelsea was a mistake, but they nevertheless felt didn't reach the threshold for VAR intervention. In the same game, the one where Pedro is being rugby tackled round his waist as Raya punches both him and the ball isn't even listed.
It's striking is that all 3 of the missed interventions regarding Arsenal were in games they won 1-0. Also 4 out of the 7 incorrect decisions in Arsenal's favour came in their last 10 games and were all in tight matches (2-1 victory vs Chelsea, 1-0 victory vs Brighton, 2-1 loss vs City and 1-0 victory over Burnley).
It's striking is that all 3 of the missed interventions regarding Arsenal were in games they won 1-0. Also 4 out of the 7 incorrect decisions in Arsenal's favour came in their last 10 games and were all in tight matches (2-1 victory vs Chelsea, 1-0 victory vs Brighton, 2-1 loss vs City and 1-0 victory over Burnley).
Yes that's just some of Arsenal's, there were several missed interventions that should have gone for West Ham in the last few games, as well and several that helped Spurs.
If refs in England called Arsenal on their bullshit like the ref tonight they wouldn't have won the league.
Indeed. Very refreshing to see.
Thought the ref was absolutely superb all game. Didn't allow any silly free kicks
Perfect refereeing. Didn’t succumb to Arsenal’s constant cheating and diving.
Yeah was a great ref performance, didn't think the Saka(?) handball was a pen, the Madueke one certainly wasn't, and I know people wanted a second yellow card for the pen, but I think that's one of those where you don't have to give a yellow/send him off so I was fine with it.
Never knew this was a thing but seems the no yellow card for the penalty was the right call.
Struggling to understand how Sakas wasn’t a stone wall pen.
The bit when he blew for half time on their corner was superb backbone. He seemed to dislike them.
Good to know!
Completely accidental, arms in a natural position. But yeah, you'll see the same in the group stage next season given as a pen...
Refereeing is mainly vibes as Webb said, the laws only apply sometimes.
The halftime walkoff was glorious.
The one where Saka handballed twice in his own box?
I can get that but he totally missed the ball bouncing onto his arms where Arsenal gained advantage.
Well, they started time wasting and diving minute 7. Annoyed the hell out of the ref, clearly.The bit when he blew for half time on their corner was superb backbone. He seemed to dislike them.
This an explanation for why he couldn’t get a straight red. Nothing to do with a second booking? It doesn’t even make any sense. The logic for not sending off when a penalty is awarded for a DOGSO is because the attacking team ends up getting a GSO anyway (the penalty) This should have been a booking for the nature of the challenge. Which is a yellow card, all day long. Nothing to do with preventing a shot on goal.
Yer man’s an odd fish. Only ever finds a way to defend decisions.
This was the only mistake the ref made, in fairness. I thought he was excellent.
It's May.
If you only judge it for stopping a promising attack. This was a reckless lunging tackle from behind that went through Kvara’s calf.
I love that they brushed that off in TNT commentary, and the second yellow that wasn’t given. And then went all out arguing that tackle on Eze near the end was a clear penalty. I get wanting the premier league side to win, but I wish they’d show at least a little semblance of objectivity.
Madueke?
When he pulled the defender in by his arm and threw himself to the ground?
That should have been a yellow card for diving.
I beg your pardon you’re right it was Madueke. But yeah they were all over that on TNT despite being content to brush away two major decisions that went Arsenal’s way. I like McCoist but even him moaning about the coin toss was hilarious, he wouldn’t have said a word about whether it was fair or not if Arsenal had won both and got to go first and in front of their own fans.
Aye, it's clear bias.
It was a shite game, the penalty was a penalty, it maybe could have been a second yellow, but the ref was probably right not to give it..
I can also see why they waved away the Saka handball and the Madueke one was never a penalty.
Good ref today, unlike the useless cowards in the premier league.
For me the Madueke call was wrong. He gets infront of Mendes who falls on to him. I don't think Madueke is hauling him down intentionally, he was just trying to be strong and outmuscled him.
Put it this way, I'd be incredulous if that happened against United or England in the World Cup. Its a foul everywhere on the pitch.
However, obviously delighted because Arsenals luck finally ran out tonight at the perfect time with VAR decisions.
Put it this way, I'd be incredulous if that happened against United or England in the World Cup. Its a foul everywhere on the pitch.
However, obviously delighted because Arsenals luck finally ran out tonight at the perfect time with VAR decisions.
Madueke hooked Mendes with his arm and pulled him down on to him.
The BBC just analysed it and all agreed it wasn’t a penalty.
The tweet says that "both have a stepped down sanction", meaning a red becomes a yellow and a yellow becomes nothing. I wasn't aware and maybe it's inaccurate, but it does cover the yellow part.
The Athletic's refereeing expert makes it sound like a judgment call, rather than a hard and fast rule:
He also got infront of him and it wasn't shoulder to shoulder. Mendes was absolutely trying his best to get his arm in and outmuscle Madueke back, and instead he lost balance and fell over. Obviously the hook on the arm played a part but honestly that's just part of being strong in those 50/50s imo. He had to be stronger and was incredibly lucky to escape giving away a penalty.
Isn't that also just the rule that if it hits your body first somewhere and then bounces onto the hand it's never handball even if in completely unnatural position? Weird rule but I thought that's how it is.
Good refereeing mostly I thought today.
Nah. Disagree. Madueke went looking for it and was pulling Mendes down.
It was a good decision by the ref and can understand why VAR agreed.
I think the Madueke non penalty was completely in line with how the ref managed the whole game. He didn't really allow soft fouls and let players be physical to an extent