I couldn't believe that, it wasn't like it was hard to figure out it was happening by the time the whistle went either.
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Has anyone actually ever scored from indirect free kick? It seems like a pretty stupid punishment when the probability of scoring from it is really low.
Ronaldo scored one for us
Fully agree. Would love to see this happen. Getting an easy goal when there was realistically no chance of getting one from the foul (in this case Bruno's handball) is just absolute nonsense. The spurs handball in the CL final against Liverpool is probably the most outrageous one that springs to mind. Set the tempo and ruined the whole game. Football is supposed to be a game of outperforming your opponent, and such easy goals take it away.
It’s a dumb rule from dumb rule makers.
I don’t have the patience to articulate my contempt for those who drew up rules to define a penalty in modern game.
I don’t have the patience to articulate my contempt for those who drew up rules to define a penalty in modern game.
I forgot about that. What the hell was he thinking? Of course it took him only 1 second of looking at VAR screen to decide it was penalty. But giving advantage when it's clear United players have kept possession seems too complicated.
It was probably a penalty tonight. But remember the penalty Sociedad got at Old Trafford few seasons ago? Single reason why we had to play playoff round vs Barca in February. Also Bruno getting a yellow for nothing and being suspended for 2nd game vs Sevilla that same season? I'm not paranoid and don't believe in conspiracy theories but genuinely pissed how basically always things go against us vs Spanish sides.
why wasn't Oyarzabal booked for waving an imaginary card, i thought refs were told to clamp down on that
Madness. Commentators thought bruno wanted denial goalscoring opp but he wanted the advantage
Good shout!
So one every 15 years
To be fair that's probably the last time we had one! They're very rarely given
They are great entertainment though, the pure panic caused is quite funny.
Brute force seems to be the best way to score.
Yeah, I've always enjoyed them too.
I am for every kind of punishment that doesn't involve our goalkeepers defending penalties!
I did at five-a-side a few weeks ago
Is it an advantage when garnacho has it? Dumb clown just boot it either at the near post or over the bar.
They are very rare, used to be fairly common in the 90s just after the backpass rule was introduced. And in all honesty they were great spectacles. Defending teams all lined up on the goal line, the inevitable goalmouth scramble.Good shout!
So one every 15 years
They weren't scored from as much as you would think though, but that's kind of the point for nothing handballs In the box isn't it. It shouldn't be nearly a guaranteed goal.
Bayern actually won a league title with one:
Last-minute goal in 2001 after the goalkeeper inexplicable picked up a pass by his defender, causing an indirect freekick.
Thought the Bruno handball penalty was ridiculous. He jumped and the ball was hit at him from about a yard away.
I don't know if refs are just stupid or if they're trying to follow the rule. There was no attempt to use his hand and no advantage gained by it hitting his hand. Why is that worth a penalty
I don't know if refs are just stupid or if they're trying to follow the rule. There was no attempt to use his hand and no advantage gained by it hitting his hand. Why is that worth a penalty
The modern day rules and officiating are making me fall out of love with football.
That's the guidance for the law, hand above the shoulder is always given as handball...
At least it's pretty much consistently enforced I guess.
It's meant to be deliberate hand ball, they're decided your arm that high is always deliberate handball...
Like a lot of football officiating, it's a mess
More like centimetres away and about to hit the ball even without the opponent heading it:
But unlike you, I think that was a correct penalty to give. It's an idiotic movement and his hand has absolutely no business being where it is. You just can't jump like that, block the ball, and expect to not have it be a penalty.
And "no advantage gained by it hitting his hand"? He blocked the opponent's header towards the goal, how is that not an advantage?
It's a clear penalty. Like you said why the hell is his hand even in that position? It's so stupid and cost us the win. But his stans will absolve him of all the blame yet again.More like centimetres away and about to hit the ball even without the opponent heading it:
But unlike you, I think that was a correct penalty to give. It's an idiotic movement and his hand has absolutely no business being where it is. You just can't jump like that, block the ball, and expect to not have it be a penalty.
And "no advantage gained by it hitting his hand"? He blocked the opponent's header towards the goal, how is that not an advantage?
Hard to argue against that as a penalty. Arm up in a silly position. Those are often given even if the defender headed it onto his arm and that wasn't the case here. Silly mistakes. Poor Amorim seems to get at least one braindead action from one of his players every single game that gives away a goal or completely gimps the team.
It's a really poor attempt to challenge for the ball as well. He's never winning the header, in that situation, but if he was tight to the player it wouldn't be an issue.
Finally saw the replay again. Bruno goes in like wussy he is, head down and hands above protectim him. Heading hurts you all jumpers hands up naturally know. Ball also hits brunos hand first and then rs players head. Im usually really red tinted but that was 100% penalty and 100% brunos stupidy(wissyty).
And before evyryone jumps like that peopple, i have played 25 years cb at semi high level and never seen anyone jump like that
If i had they would have gotten fee words from me
Yeah, I rewatched the scene as well and have to correct myself - he did not even touch the ball after the header, he handballed before his opponent even touched the ball. Even more blatantly of a penalty, even more stupid by Bruno.
It was so annoying- game was under control and going well. If anyone other than Bruno gave away such a careless penalty they would be rightly slated. I hate the amount of easy penalties in the game more generally but these days a professional footballer jumping in our own box with his arms up and out is just unforgivable.
Watching the Celta vs Leganes game and Celta have just had a ridiculously tight offside ruled out. Looked level on the replay but Var found a fraction of Duran's head 'offside'.
For me it is penalising good attacking play on the shoulder of last defender.
For me it is penalising good attacking play on the shoulder of last defender.
Semi Auto is super frustrating like that, even if its quicker. Like that heel offside in the week, ridiculous really.
If we see this out, will the talking points in the media for the next week be that Anthony Taylor helped us by putting the defensive wall at 11.2 yards (according to Sky Sports) instead of 10 yards?
Neville kept repeating this a few times as a "fun fact" without directly placing blame. Just making sure everyone became aware that the ball might not have gone over the wall if it stood a little closer to the spot.
I don't remember seeing anyone calculating this distance during a match for any other club in the past.
Neville kept repeating this a few times as a "fun fact" without directly placing blame. Just making sure everyone became aware that the ball might not have gone over the wall if it stood a little closer to the spot.
I don't remember seeing anyone calculating this distance during a match for any other club in the past.
As I said in the match day thread, this sort of controversy around anything United drives clicks for them.
Exactly, has this tv graphic showing the exact wall distance always been a thing or just because it was United that scored? Can’t say I have ever seen it before and always thought it was a given that the wall will never be precisely 10 yards out considering the ref walks it out for Christ sake.
There will be a campaign to shorten Anthony Taylor's legs
Didn’t Villa score against us at Villa Park a few seasons back when the United wall was about 15 yards back from the ball? Hilarious, I believe, was the common opinion at the time.
Wait and see the difference in reaction to today’s minimal advantage…
Wait and see the difference in reaction to today’s minimal advantage…
And the Premier League admitted Taylor got the wall wrong that time, not a peep from the media though.
Watch the media cnuts spend all week talking about this.
Watch the media cnuts spend all week talking about this.
I wonder if the "handball" by Heaven a minute or so before Arsenals goal would have been given if Rice hadn't scored? The ball had not gone dead between the 2 incidents.....
It was checked and cleared