It’s so frustrating. Had some good initiatives forward and better on the ball than his partner, then he suddenly drops completely off with Giroud. This time it’s also not only about beeing week, but focus and lack of consentration.
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He was also a good midfielder and should've only been sold when we had clear upgrades. But we sold him for peanuts and spent £70m on two players from Benfica and Chelsea who aren't better. Ajax meanwhile almost reached a UCL final with Blind.
But as the debate is now, it is about how they should compliment each other.
Then you must know whom to compliment before you buy another. Imo they do compliment each other. Not in every aspect but very few CB pairs compliment each other perfectly.
Agree. I think Sancho and a new midfielder is gonna happen this season, and then the summer after that a CB.
True. Though both have the same big weakness, not having enough speed, which means that the new defender whoever is him, needs to be fast. Of course, if he replaces Maguire, he needs to be strong in the air too, but hopefully, that is a given in any case.
I wouldn't mind seeing both of them getting replaced, but likely ain't gonna happen for another 3 years. I think that our defense is by far the biggest weakness though, they all have problems and our fullbacks offer next to nothing in attack.
It's real world logic. If Lindelof was obviously better then Maguire then fair enough, but as he isn't... So anyone thinking that if we bought a new CB he wouldn't be paired first and foremost with Maguire is living on another planet.
Our supposed strong CB did exactly the same thing though, they were both running away from the shot.
The injury, that tactics, and the change in tactics were all over the place today and subsequently so was the team.
That's fair enough. If the new manager thinks that Maguire is better, then sure. If not, then why should a new manager care about how much Ole spent on him (obviously Ole is never gonna drop Maguire, but when Ole's time is gone, I think that Maguire might have a reality check).
For the people saying bring back Smalling, he isn't the answer either.
Maguire is not just good in the air, he is also very very dominant. I would say dominant is his greatest feature. Most of the CBs that people have discussed as replacers are actually weaker than Lindelof in the air, and far from Maguire.
Lack of speed hasn’t cost unnecessary goals this season. I would say that better organisation at set pieces would have made biggest difference. Not speed.
Against Southampton I was pissed at him for not having the strength to clear the man/ball with the last minute goal.
Today on at least 2 occasions, one of which was the goal I saw him literally get palmed aside by the attacker.
The guy must have some kind of record for the most steps backwards too
Only plus point was that he tried passing forward at times though other times he irritated me with his sideways deference to maguire 2 feet away
I hate passive defending. I’ll never take to this chap I think
Today on at least 2 occasions, one of which was the goal I saw him literally get palmed aside by the attacker.
The guy must have some kind of record for the most steps backwards too
Only plus point was that he tried passing forward at times though other times he irritated me with his sideways deference to maguire 2 feet away
I hate passive defending. I’ll never take to this chap I think
If Michail Antonio targets him on Wednesday he could get some joy, faster and stronger than Lindelof. Had a shocker vs Giroud this evening
If we want to be serious about winning trophies then we need an upgrade on him. He's very timid in his defending, backs off way too much, doesn't intercept, poor in the air and gets bullied within the box.
This is so true.
Thing is, he actually is not too bad when he bothers to challenge for balls. And his aerial duels percentage while not spectacular is totally respectable. His defensive abilities in 1 on 1 are okay, as is his tackling. His speed actually is not that bad too.
The biggest problem is that he prefers making steps backwards rather than actually challenging for the ball. Sure, it makes him get dribbled quite less than Maguire (and consequently make fewer mistakes), but it also make us win the ball less and gives more opportunity to the other team.
Ole should have a chat with him. Either be more aggressive or be in the bench.
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Ah feck, and I never thought I'd need to worry about Michail Antonio as a striker
Silvestre was good.
Daley Blind's a better centre back than him and equally effective in the air. Let that sink in.
He’s really not very good. It’s just a shame our other center backs are sick notes.
Everytime Lindelof plays there is a high chance we will concede.
Everytime Lindelof plays there is a high chance we will concede.
The stark realisation that Antonio could look like Mbappe vs the Step Brothers on Wednesday; thanks for that!
Lindelof is a good footballer but just not suited to EPL and the way united plays. I think he will be perfect for a la liga side, perhaps even Barcelona. But we need to get rid of him.
If Tuanzebe can be fit next season, for sure he will partner Maguire instead
This CB pairing is poor, we need someone with recovery pace and also you can't have a CB who is so poor physically.
I hardly comment in this thread because I feel he is a squard player at best. How can you be CB and be so poor physically and positionally? There is always a talking point with him every game. Twice now he has been on the wrong side of an attacker leading to a goal.
Tuanzebe is not ready yet. It will be a mistake and injustice to him as well to rely on him next season. He should be 2nd choice at best. We need to sign a proper experienced CB to partner Maguire.
Fecking up the offside trap and not getting across on the cover are two of the biggest errors for Centre halfs as far as I'm concerned.
Very infuriating indeed. Makes everyone across the backline look like idiots.
He just doesn't take responsibility. There was a particular stat that was posted here about his tackling, but you could see he selects the physical duels he goes for.
He's very cultured and comfortably deals with most loose balls, but when an opponent is in play, he gives the impression that he'd rather not be there. De Gea and him leaves everybody else with too much to do.
No way in hell. He had 38% aerial duels won in 15-16 (when he played as CB) in 89 duels. The next season he had 53% win rate at 47 duels.
Lindelof is at 64% in 139 duels this season, while had a 62.7% win rate in 110 duels last season. So much more effective, while making many more attempts.
I think that Blind was a good CB, but he was quite weak in the air (except that match against Lukaku).
maybe we should try TFM next to Maguire, he is 6'3 and very strong and fast and is a good defender.
Why is he called the iceman?
He's a half decent ice hockey player.
Because his hair looks like he's just coming out of being in an iceblock for 100 years
Most ironic nickname.
Cause he likes ice-creams.
More seriously, I believe he was considered a strong nonsense defender who is also calm on the ball. Now why he was considered so, I have no idea. Maybe the Portuguese are physically weak or something, and he dominated them. Maybe cause he is a Nordic player who played in a Southern country. Probably the later.
Both him and Maguire had a poor performance yesterday but people are overreacting. There is no way we could have the second best defensive record in the league if they, plus DDG, are as useless as some here believe. Liverpool too lost with 2 goals agaisnt Chelsea in the FA cup with goals and chances that didn’t really flatter the centre backs. It happens.
He is a perfect squad player, as was Blind. Rarely injured, but he is not good enough ultimately, too many things lacking for a CB.
Not a starting CB for any top 4 club anyway. Needs upgrading in the summer
Not a starting CB for any top 4 club anyway. Needs upgrading in the summer
I think Tuanzebe will get his chance next season, if he can stay fit, and if he does I hope people let him grow into the role, and not throw him to the wolves after his first mistake. I've never been a Lindelof fan, there's something lacking, physicality, awareness, heading ability, all of these to a certain extent, but overall has never filled me with confidence when he's played. Bailly is a far better CB in my opinion, but always gets slated for his 'brain farts' (all players make mistakes), but he is a proper defender, similar to Vidic in that he gives his all, whereas Lindelof does seem a bit passive.
It does happen. Sure.
But lindelof is a touch point, we seem to be talking about him at least every second game because of a mistake or mistakes he’s making
When CBs make mistakes there is often a goal conceded, that’s how it is. Lindelof has however made quite few mistakes this season. When he makes a mistake, or has a poor performance, there is always people calling for replacing him. I really doubt he will be replaced in the nearest future considering the good results we have achieved lately. Before this match there was a long stretch of unbeaten matches with very few goals conceded.
With the lowest points tally ever to be third in the PL, one of the weakest premier leagues in recent memory, he’s a good footballer , average defender, always gets bullied in physical one on ones and lacks Smalling pace and physicality, Would Nathan Ake, J Laycelles or J Tarkowski be better options if the answer is yes you understand the issue because none of those 3 should be anywhere near a United starting 11 !!!!
Because he keeps slipping up like bambi on ice
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