Victor Osimhen | signed by Gala

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TheForgottenOne said:
Not by any means am I trying to say Keane is class, but you are really just highlighting his stats in the most negative way.

Its like saying that Osimhen scored 0 Bundesliga goals in 2 seasons at Werder Bremen.
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Playing for Juventus is more comparable to United than playing for Fiorentina. And no it wouldn’t be like bringing up Osimhen’s stat from the time he was 18/19 at Wolfsburg… Kean was a teenager at Everton I didn’t count that.

Kean has scored 10+ leagues goals twice in his entire career (once in the last 4 years)

Osimhen has scored 15+ leagues goals in every single season of his career since turning 20…(that’s 7 seasons running).
 
Seems they're paying Napoli €15m a year for the next 5 years, rather than paying a larger fee upfront.

Disappointed in Osimhen going back when he has all the talent to play in a top 5 league. His wages really proved to be too much.
 
Annoying he didn't want to lower his wages enough but his call

Also seems Napoli will use those funds and take a problem off Liverpool's hand. Why not take our problem!!
 
MaMa given red said:
Yeah, we've bought in so called big names on big wages numerous times and it's a key part of the reason we are in such a mess financially.

We shouldn't be paying anyone big wages or big fees before they've even kicked a ball for the club. I assume part of the reason we are targeting Wolves and Brentford players is because we know they won't be on big wages at those clubs.

I read somewhere that the Galatasaray offer to Osimhen is close to 450/500k a week. There's no way we could or should be looking to match an offer like that, it's just not worth it.
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Ask how they can afford that when the Turkish league has nowhere near the funding available that United thro the Prem TV deal. beIN is paying £134 million-a-year to broadcast Turkey's Süper Lig and TFF First League. Sky/TNT paying £1.7bn a year.
Galatasaray's average home attendance is 42,702. Ours is around 73,800. Our average ticket price is at around £80. Galatasaray's is about half that.
 
golden_blunder said:
No what’s suicidal is breaking the pay scale that they are trying to implement. You do realize that Gala are paying him the equivalent of 450k before tax
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That's a point which gets missed, particularly by many of the African fans on social media, still very annoying he wasn't willing to reduce demands though
 
groovyalbert said:
What a prick :lol:
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We have Casemiro who's on 350k , we have Mount who's on 200k -250k ( not sure ) and we now have Cunha who's on 200k.
None of them names above are currently worth their wage, you can't expect someone to take a pay cut to join your team, a team that is struggling to hit heights of previous while having plans to keep an ageing midfielder , a injury prone player who has more appearance as a sub than a starter and now a player who's biggest achievement is winning the summer olympics in 2020.

Also if you think Mbuemo will ask for anything less than Cunhas 200k a week then I got news for you, again, he will be another player who hasn't done anything of note but will be on 200k.
 
IsoJoe said:
We have Casemiro who's on 350k , we have Mount who's on 200k -250k ( not sure ) and we now have Cunha who's on 200k.
None of them names above are currently worth their wage, you can't expect someone to take a pay cut to join your team, a team that is struggling to hit heights of previous while having plans to keep an ageing midfielder , a injury prone player who has more appearance as a sub than a starter and now a player who's biggest achievement is winning the summer olympics in 2020.

Also if you think Mbuemo will ask for anything less than Cunhas 200k a week then I got news for you, again, he will be another player who hasn't done anything of note but will be on 200k.
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Yea I don't know why we criticise Osimhen at all. He rejected the Saudi offer to stay in Europe, even if it's "only" the Turkish league. He's been transparent from the start: offer him the same wages like in Napoli and he'll join. We decided that's too much. I really wanted to see him here at one point, but at the same time I think if we can't find a solution, it's okay. With the money we'd save from not paying his salary, we could try get a younger CF like Ekitike or Sesko. They would probably cost a bit more in fee, but we'd pay significantly less in salary I reckon.
Anyway, it looks like we couldn't afford any of them and have to look at scrubs like Moise Kean...
 
aeh1991 said:
Yea I don't know why we criticise Osimhen at all. He rejected the Saudi offer to stay in Europe, even if it's "only" the Turkish league. He's been transparent from the start: offer him the same wages like in Napoli and he'll join. We decided that's too much. I really wanted to see him here at one point, but at the same time I think if we can't find a solution, it's okay. With the money we'd save from not paying his salary, we could try get a younger CF like Ekitike or Sesko. They would probably cost a bit more in fee, but we'd pay significantly less in salary I reckon.
Anyway, it looks like we couldn't afford any of them and have to look at scrubs like Moise Kean...
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I wouldn't worry about the bolded, he doesn't want to join us anyway.
 
sixdwarf said:
Ask how they can afford that when the Turkish league has nowhere near the funding available that United thro the Prem TV deal. beIN is paying £134 million-a-year to broadcast Turkey's Süper Lig and TFF First League. Sky/TNT paying £1.7bn a year.
Galatasaray's average home attendance is 42,702. Ours is around 73,800. Our average ticket price is at around £80. Galatasaray's is about half that.
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That’s their problem, it seems now. We are definitely not paying the sort of wages he’s demanding any time soon.
 
aeh1991 said:
Yea I don't know why we criticise Osimhen at all. He rejected the Saudi offer to stay in Europe, even if it's "only" the Turkish league. He's been transparent from the start: offer him the same wages like in Napoli and he'll join. We decided that's too much. I really wanted to see him here at one point, but at the same time I think if we can't find a solution, it's okay. With the money we'd save from not paying his salary, we could try get a younger CF like Ekitike or Sesko. They would probably cost a bit more in fee, but we'd pay significantly less in salary I reckon.
Anyway, it looks like we couldn't afford any of them and have to look at scrubs like Moise Kean...
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Gandalf said:
I wouldn't worry about the bolded, he doesn't want to join us anyway.
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Neither will they I would think?
 
Napoli hasn’t yet accepted the payment plan proposed by Galatasaray. They insist on full bank guarantees of a certain level.




This a Nigerian journalist close to him.

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Breaking Exclusive: Napoli officially turns down Galatasaray €75m 3rd offer for Victor Osimhen. The official Release clause Figure.

- They’re frustrating the deal intentionally and wants to push him to Saudi Arabia (Al Hilal).
- Victor Osimhen has made it very clear that going to Al Hilal is not possible. He only wants Galatasaray.
- He also made it very clear to Napoli that he won’t report for Pre season and doesn’t want to play for Napoli anymore.”
 
Do wonder if any of the various people claiming money as his primary motivation, have actually bothered to watch him play for a full match? He's an absolute warrior, bully and menace for the entire opposition defence for 90 minutes.
Whether for Nigeria, Napoli, Gala of for one season, Lille. Like Mark Hughes used to do for us, deal with the whole opposition back 4 on his own, Osimhen does the same thing. Don't think they're related. He'd instantly be up there around Isak & Haaland and might even get us up to the first half of the table.
 
diskrace said:
Do wonder if any of the various people claiming money as his primary motivation, have actually bothered to watch him play for a full match? He's an absolute warrior, bully and menace for the entire opposition defence for 90 minutes.
Whether for Nigeria, Napoli, Gala of for one season, Lille. Like Mark Hughes used to do for us, deal with the whole opposition back 4 on his own, Osimhen does the same thing. Don't think they're related. He'd instantly be up there around Isak & Haaland and might even get us up to the first half of the table.
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You don’t think that both things could be true?
 
diskrace said:
Do wonder if any of the various people claiming money as his primary motivation, have actually bothered to watch him play for a full match? He's an absolute warrior, bully and menace for the entire opposition defence for 90 minutes.
Whether for Nigeria, Napoli, Gala of for one season, Lille. Like Mark Hughes used to do for us, deal with the whole opposition back 4 on his own, Osimhen does the same thing. Don't think they're related. He'd instantly be up there around Isak & Haaland and might even get us up to the first half of the table.
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You can be money orientated and still work your socks off. Tevez was like that.
 
The relationship between him and Napoli is a bit ridiculous at this stage.

He was lauded as a hero not long ago.

Is this really all down to that silly social media post?
 
sixdwarf said:
Ask how they can afford that when the Turkish league has nowhere near the funding available that United thro the Prem TV deal. beIN is paying £134 million-a-year to broadcast Turkey's Süper Lig and TFF First League. Sky/TNT paying £1.7bn a year.
Galatasaray's average home attendance is 42,702. Ours is around 73,800. Our average ticket price is at around £80. Galatasaray's is about half that.
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I heard that the tax laws are different for footballers in Turkey. So he may on £350k at Napoli but Gala might only need to pay him, for example, £200k a week for the same take home pay. Obviously United would need to pay around £350k too.
 
Lay said:
You can be money orientated and still work your socks off. Tevez was like that.
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True. But I don't think his personality would rub well with Ruben.

This gangsta stuff is something we are trying to clamp down I think :)
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Cee90 said:
The relationship between him and Napoli is a bit ridiculous at this stage.

He was lauded as a hero not long ago.

Is this really all down to that silly social media post?
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Not sure, but it could be, it was disrespectful and extremely weird, like why it was allowed in the first place?
 
Cee90 said:
The relationship between him and Napoli is a bit ridiculous at this stage.

He was lauded as a hero not long ago.

Is this really all down to that silly social media post?
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He played for them after that and extended his contract there after that… it is more about money than anything else.

In the summer of 2023, right after his best ever season and Napoli winning the title he was offered insane money from Saudi and there were offers from various clubs in Europe. Napoli didn't want to sell him and he didn't want to leave yet. The contract was due to expire in June 2024 (salary at 6M net, their salary cap back then), he got a big increase which kept him at the club (valid through 2025). It was reported to be 10 M net guaranteed (and 2M more with bonuses). Over the 23/24 season he didn't get the bonuses, as they finished 10th and he was looking at a season with Napoli not in Europe, that's why he asked to leave.

During the summer of 2024 Napoli couldn't find an agreement with the Saudi club that was after him (Or Napoli tried to rinse them...) and Osimhen couldn't get an agreement with Chelsea (Osimhen's favorite buyer at the time). After the deadline, Osimhen decided to play for Galatasaray who would pay him 12M, Napoli agreed to loan him there and offered him a new contract so he would come back after the loan and still be an asset for them. He signed that contract, worth 12M net apparently (actually Napoli has an option to extend to 2027 but the salary would go up to 15M net // Which is also the offer put forward by Galatasaray now). In exchange for the last extention, Napoli gave him a release clause of 75M in the new contract, making it easier for clubs to buy him. I don't know if Galatasaray can afford the 75M and if they are willing to pay it for a 3-year contract, because that seems to be part of it. He doesn't want to commit to a very long deal...
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Cee90 said:
The relationship between him and Napoli is a bit ridiculous at this stage.

He was lauded as a hero not long ago.

Is this really all down to that silly social media post?
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No but that's the narrative people have chosen
 
Pintu said:
Napoli hasn’t yet accepted the payment plan proposed by Galatasaray. They insist on full bank guarantees of a certain level.




This a Nigerian journalist close to him.

“
Breaking Exclusive: Napoli officially turns down Galatasaray €75m 3rd offer for Victor Osimhen. The official Release clause Figure.

- They’re frustrating the deal intentionally and wants to push him to Saudi Arabia (Al Hilal).
- Victor Osimhen has made it very clear that going to Al Hilal is not possible. He only wants Galatasaray.
- He also made it very clear to Napoli that he won’t report for Pre season and doesn’t want to play for Napoli anymore.”
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For people who don't understand how Osimhen ended up at Galatasaray, this is it. Napoli persistently frustrating his preferred moves.
 
Pintu said:
He played for them after that and extended his contract there after that… it is more about money than anything else.

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No, it's not.

The relationship broke down because:

a. Osimhen deleted all pics with Napoli insignia from his social media after the social media incident
b. Napoli refused to honour a gentleman's agreement to let him move to the club of his choice, PSG, at the time; and
c. He extended his contract after that to include a lower release clause, one Napoli have consistently frustrated
 
It's obviously not a release fee clause if they've bid it and Napoli have rejected it. As that's not how legal contracts work.
 
The Original said:
For people who don't understand how Osimhen ended up at Galatasaray, this is it. Napoli persistently frustrating his preferred moves.
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But Osimhen is the troublemaker.... 100% understand why he acted like he did when they tried to push him out (not to mention that racism incident and seemingly no support from his own team).
 
In the middle of all this I'm not sure why Osimhen signed a recent extension to a club that's notoriously difficult to deal with that he's already fallen out with and that's stalling his move.
 
The Original said:
No, it's not.

The relationship broke down because:

a. Osimhen deleted all pics with Napoli insignia from his social media after the social media incident
b. Napoli refused to honour a gentleman's agreement to let him move to the club of his choice, PSG, at the time; and
c. He extended his contract after that to include a lower release clause, one Napoli have consistently frustrated
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a. Yes happened in Septemebr 2023 immediately after the tiktok incident. And they apologized and he got on with it.
b. No idea what that’s about, there was no such agreement. As per their UEFA deal regarding FFP breaches PSG couldn’t pay 150M and give him his crazy salary.
c. Wrong. He extended first in December 2023 with no lower release clause. He agreed on 150M there the main point was getting a big salary and he got it.
c. In September 2024, he signed a new contract giving Napoli again an option to keep him until 2027. Increased Salary again and reducing the release clause to €75M.
c. That’s not how a release clause work. A release clause means you can move once you pay all the money required. Galatasaray can’t pay the money but Napoli is entertaining negotiations on a normal transfer with installments (for the same 75M/ even though they don’t have to) so far Galatasaray hasn’t provided enough bank guarantees to satisfy Napoli.
 
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Is there a connection between Saudi and Turkey?

I understand theres probably tax breaks for football players and managers, but they seem to be putting a lot of money down without much fear of repercussions.
 
redshaw said:
In the middle of all this I'm not sure why Osimhen signed a recent extension to a club that's notoriously difficult to deal with that he's already fallen out with and that's stalling his move.
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He signed with a 75M release clause which makes it relatively easy for top clubs…. The bigger issue is the salary.

Chelsea were willing to buy players for 100M but they won’t go beyond £150K as base salary.

Giving one player 300k+ isn’t only about the money, it is about the culture at the club, it is about keeping the locker room in harmony.

Buying a player for 80 M and paying a £200k/week on 5 years contract (total 132M) is mathematically cheaper than paying 100M fee and 150k/week (total 139M), but depending on the type of player, the first option might be one that ends up stirring shit in the locker room when other players ask for the same…
 
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Pintu said:
a. Yes happened in Septemebr 2023 immediately after the tiktok incident. And they apologized and he got on with it.
b. No idea what that’s about, there was no such agreement. As per their UEFA deal regarding FFP breaches PSG couldn’t pay 150M and give him his crazy salary.
c. Wrong. He extended first in December 2023 with no lower release clause. He agreed on 150M there the main point was getting a big salary and he got it.
c. In September 2024, he signed a new contract giving Napoli again an option to keep him until 2027. I creased Salary again and reducing the release clause to €75M.
c. That’s not how a release clause work. A release clause means you can move once you pay all the money required. Galatasaray can’t pay the money but Napoli is entertaining negotiations on a normal transfer with installments (for the same 75M/ even though they don’t have to) so far Galatasaray hasn’t provided enough bank guarantees to satisfy Napoli.
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So the common denominator so far in his career seems to be money
 
golden_blunder said:
So the common denominator so far in his career seems to be money
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Since 2024 yes, but his career didn’t start then… His choices up to that point were motivated by football. At every step he chose clubs (Charleroi, Lille, Napoli) that meant progress and reaching a higher level… At least he is not going to Saudi (not yet) but it is quite disappointing to see him prioritize money when he still has so much more to give at the highest level and in the top leagues.
 


Napoli actually wanted him to stay. Conte wants him and has convinced ADL. But it’s too late to change Viktor’s mind… Gala’s offer not only gives him a higher salary there is also a huge signing fee (ca 20M).

Now Napoli has asked Galatasary to provide UEFA backed guarantees that the payments (15M per year over 5 years) will be made by UEFA (from Gala’s future UEFA prize money) in case of a default.
 
Pintu said:
He signed with a 75M release clause which makes it relatively easy for top clubs…. The bigger issue is the salary.

Chelsea were willing to buy players for 100M but they won’t go beyond £150K as base salary.

Giving one player 300k+ isn’t only about the money, it is about the culture at the club, it is about keeping the locker room in harmony.

Buying a player for 80 M and paying a £200k/week on 5 years contract (total 132M) is mathematically cheaper than paying 100M fee and 150k/week (total 139M), but depending on the type of player, the first option might be one that ends up stirring shit in the locker room when other players ask for the same…
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Still a hefty fee with wages on top. Best to have less years on and leave on a free or lower fee if high wages are a driver.
 
Pintu said:
a. Yes happened in Septemebr 2023 immediately after the tiktok incident. And they apologized and he got on with it.
b. No idea what that’s about, there was no such agreement. As per their UEFA deal regarding FFP breaches PSG couldn’t pay 150M and give him his crazy salary.
c. Wrong. He extended first in December 2023 with no lower release clause. He agreed on 150M there the main point was getting a big salary and he got it.
c. In September 2024, he signed a new contract giving Napoli again an option to keep him until 2027. Increased Salary again and reducing the release clause to €75M.
c. That’s not how a release clause work. A release clause means you can move once you pay all the money required. Galatasaray can’t pay the money but Napoli is entertaining negotiations on a normal transfer with installments (for the same 75M/ even though they don’t have to) so far Galatasaray hasn’t provided enough bank guarantees to satisfy Napoli.
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a. Obviously, being under contract, he still had to play. He never restored Napoli pics to his account though, so clearly, no he wasn't over it even if he got on with it as he had to.
b. The fact that you're not aware of said agreement doesn't mean it didn't exist. The gentleman's agreement as I've read it reported, was that he would be allowed to leave if any club met the clause - which leads to C
c. The specific effect of a release clause would be determined by its construction. It could be restrictive or conditional, and appears to be so in Osimhen's case since it is widely reported that the Saudis met the clause last summer but Napoli insisted on Chelsea.
 
Pintu said:


Napoli actually wanted him to stay. Conte wants him and has convinced ADL. But it’s too late to change Viktor’s mind… Gala’s offer not only gives him a higher salary there is also a huge signing fee (ca 20M).

Now Napoli has asked Galatasary to provide UEFA backed guarantees that the payments (15M per year over 5 years) will be made by UEFA (from Gala’s future UEFA prize money) in case of a default.
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Is this usual, haven’t heard of this before?
 
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