Both osimhen and kvara are so good. If we are in for him I think we'll get Osimhen over competition, PL is huge in lure right now and we'd have CL and on the top where Chelsea wouldn't. Kvara is a future ballon D'or winner IMO, just we don't need a LW but I'd love to see him in a United shirt.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
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the defending was awful today, literraly non existent. Hopefully he can get some goals in the Cl before we break the bank high.
We can probably go up to 100. Chelsea spent 120 on a midfielder, they would be willing to go up to 150-170 for a rare commodity (no. 9) in football.
He's not better than Rashford
flavour of the monthHe is absolutely unreal and still only 21. To be honest I’m happy with rashford and don’t really want to lose him, however..kvara is less greedy and has a higher ceiling imo. I could be wrongHe's not better than Rashford
We also have a winger with a high ceiling. His name is Garnacho.
As good as the player you are talking about may be, as has been said, we need to be prioritising elsewhere.
less greedy sure, higher ceiling? very debatable but time will tell.
Anyway as others have said, we've already got 2 great wingers + Sancho if he can get his form back before we'd need to think about another.
We desperately need a striker though.
I do think his ceiling is higher.. but I couldn’t agree more hes not a priority, I just like them together. Very good partnership indeed.
I don’t know why but I feel like this is a done deal for us…completely irrational confidence. Players seem to actually want to play for ETH and we have the funds.
This is something many ignore. This poster has a good point.
Lukaku looked incredible there and so did Pogba during his first Juve spell.
Both were incredibly disappointing here.
Both were incredibly disappointing here.
Is there any other point to Lukaku comparisons apart from the racist ones?
Nobody ignores it, but it's simply not relevant.
1 player doing good or bad doesn't mean you'll never sign somebody.
Most players come from Portugal do well in England, but because Nunez is having a poor time does that mean we don't sign any more?
Osimhen has scored against PL opposition for Lille and Napoli, he will be fine here.
It is relevant in the sense that caution needs to be taken when signing some players from serie a, in particular players like osimhen who will go for a massively inflated fee, at least £100m.
There's no way Kane leaves England. He's only 60 off Shearer in the all time list and probably needs at least 2.5-3 years to do that and can't rely on coming back in 2-4 years and still doing it.Would absolutely love Kane if it's possible, not sure how viable it is though given that Levy wouldn't sell us a cold
Let alone their greatest player in the PL era. Think he'd much sooner sell him abroad than to United but who knows, maybe Kane himself forces the issue to stay in England.
If not then Osimhen is my favorite target and he's the perfect age and profile to be long lasting asset and key piece for ETH's United. Ticks so many boxes for a suitable no.9 in his system.
Salah scored plenty in Italy and came here just fine. Why is Lukaku the reference we use?
Smalling is playing for Roma right now who was a good PL CB for a long time, and he's scoring against him no problem.
It can be flipped with Salah going from decent Serie A player to best player in the EPL. Sometimes players fail not because of the league but the team dynamics and environment. Lukaku scored a lot in England, at one point he was rivalling Harry Kane, he also scored at the same rate in both leagues. This gets forgotten for some bizarre reason, Lukaku had 25 goals one season in England.
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Pogba was never incredible at Juventus, he had a great highlight reel but also he was surrounded by a fantastic set of midfielders which limited his flaws from being highlighted. The PogBoom youtube videos didn't show how inconsistent he was or how he was considered the worst number 10 in their history when they tried to shoehorn him there because like here, they weren't sure where to get the best out of him.
Where should United sign from if we can just disregard a top 5 league like Serie A
He was 18 when he came into their first team, a very select few put up consistent 10/10 prrformances in that age. He was a very good player in their midfield no doubt he defo had good players around him but he struggled much more here and this will happen to osimhen too without a doubt. Not saying we should not sign him.It can be flipped with Salah going from decent Serie A player to best player in the EPL. Sometimes players fail not because of the league but the team dynamics and environment. Lukaku scored a lot in England, at one point he was rivalling Harry Kane, he also scored at the same rate in both leagues. This gets forgotten for some bizarre reason, Lukaku had 25 goals one season in England.
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Pogba was never incredible at Juventus, he had a great highlight reel but also he was surrounded by a fantastic set of midfielders which limited his flaws from being highlighted. The PogBoom youtube videos didn't show how inconsistent he was or how he was considered the worst number 10 in their history when they tried to shoehorn him there because like here, they weren't sure where to get the best out of him.
Where should United sign from if we can just disregard a top 5 league like Serie A
Imo he is a very good ST candidate for ETH, in terms of his pressing osimhen is up there on the rankings amongst the top. He is also very quick and athletic but the tempo over thete in serie a is night and day compared to the PL. How much will he cost if Napoli win the title? If someone like enzo went for £110m?
Other clubs will be in the mix too. Thing is if we signed him fans will expect just because of the price he's going to score every game, no, he will 100% have to go through the period of adjusting. Also it's an entire different thing playing for a club like Napoli vs Man United. Not all players have the character required.
Memphis was ranked amongst the top talents in europe at the time we signed him and it was brutally sad how that turned out, as was Martial, Donny etc..
Imagine they spent £120m on this guy and he became a massive flop..
I am not saying we will end up getting him - but we are mad if we don't try everything we can to sign this guy.
I don't think there is any doubt the club is going to give it a try.
Would he even flourish in our team?
I am one of Rashford's biggest fans but even I can admit that he's probably not the ideal LW for a lot of strikers out there.
On the other flank Antony has 1 assist in all comps for us which came in the FA cup.
I am one of Rashford's biggest fans but even I can admit that he's probably not the ideal LW for a lot of strikers out there.
On the other flank Antony has 1 assist in all comps for us which came in the FA cup.
The player we have in the 10 position loves an assist
Edit even Rashford has 8 assists this season
I suppose.....
Just feels like a graveyard shift to me. That comes from a variety of reasons though. Our fullbacks aren't that creative and I know Shaw got an assist yesterday but they aren't too common. With AWB it is even less common and Dalot also hasn't shown consistency in his crossing.
Antony doesn't look like he knows how to cross. Averaging 1.5crosses a game so far which is abysmal.
Heh?
I haven’t been reading this thread but I’d hope the point is about whether Serie A level can translate in the English league, but for those that have watched Osimhen know his overall game is levels ahead.
Nigerian Darwin Nunez.
Being a striker in the modern day isn't solely about scoring goals.
With Rashford and Osimhen in the same team, NO TEAM is going to play a high line against us without being in big trouble.
That will earn our midfield 5 yards less pressure, teams won't be able to press us without serious danger.
He also works very hard defensively always closing defenders. He's the perfect modern striker really.
? Osimhen can finish that's the difference.
I'd sign that top player for the name alone causing havoc with poor pundits and commentators.
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Do people keep mentioning this totally unaware of the fact that Lukaku built his reputation in England, not Italy? We didn’t pay £75m for him on the back of his Serie A exploits.
Lukaku had played many seasons and scored more than 100 PL goals from way before he set foot in Serie A.
We won't have the funds for this if the ownership position at United remains unchanged. At this point, we really have no idea how much (or how little) United might have to spend this summer.
Henderson, Maguire, McTominay and Martial are all mentioned as players we might offload in the summer. If Newcastle are interested in McTominay, that could be £30 mil + and it's not unrealistic that the other 3 could cost close to £50 million combined. If we even get a little bit for Telles and Bailly we could get close to £100 million for these.
The more I watch of Osimhen I really like him, but I agree with this.
Kvara will be a Balon d’Or level player one day imo. If I had to sign one it’d be him.
Kvaradona is the player that Grealish thinks he is.
100%
More like Nigerian Cavani than Nunez imo. Scoring lot of goals in Portuguese league is much easier than in Serie A.
Can we trick them with a cheeky 45m plus Martial?
Even 90m plus Martial is still good for us. Martial wages is 250k pw which equivalent to 13m per year.
Agree. But they're both class, and really, we won't ever be in a situation where we'll go for Kvara given our left wingers which is fine. But he is class. He's got Barca written all over him IMO.
Osimhen has elite potential as a CF too though and is already class. Bruno would have a field day with him and Rashford making runs all day.