No chance he goes for anything below 90-100m. Best striker in the EPL this season and would transform either team.
Victor Osimhen
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If you're Nigerian then saying that Osimhen's ego doesn't match is talent level is quite simply wrong. He is like Bruno in that he can be whiny when things are not going well on the pitch but he will keep trying and will never put himself above the team either off or on the pitch. A clear example of this is during the last nation's cup where he was trying to hard at the start but settled down into a more supportive role in that attack once Lookman started banging them in.
He is excellent in the air and in duels (a trait that will serve him well in the premier league) and while he is not elite with ball at his feet, the comparisons to Lukaku I've seen on this page are frankly baffling and shows that many haven't actually watched the guy play. He is a top professional and yes he had a clashing of heads with ADL but that is because he felt unfairly treated by him but that didn't in any way affect his performance or application in the team. He is currently on loan at Galatasaray and many top strikers would have seen that as a mini vacation in a weak league but not him. He plays with the same hunger and desire and you can see how much the fans love him for that.
Note; I'm also Nigerian and maybe this is my bias speaking but given that every fanbase of clubs he has played for seem to love him and there has been no report of him being problematic in the dressing room, I think it's fair to say that calling him egotistical is unfair.
Side Note; I do have slight reservations about his fitness Record though. That is the one thing I'll be worried about if the club opts to sign him.
Feel his presence will intimidate defences, yes may not be technically sound but can finish
I think Conte put a massive dent on his real selling price by sending him to Turkey.
He is worth sth around 100 mil, but I guess 60-70 would be acceptable now.
Yeah, I think even at 100m, Newcastle will laugh and shut the door in anyone's face.
Sounds fair, I think we’ll definitely try and negotiate something towards the lower end of that
Is there any example of Osimhen throwing a tantrum over footballing matters?
His spat with Napoli was caused by racism issues. With Finidi (former National team coach), it was because he insinuated (and subsequently retracted) that Osimhen refused to honour a call up.
I don't recall a single instance where f he has thrown a strop over being benched. Can you?
He’s not worth £100m. Both he and Napoli got very giddy a few years ago. Napoli could have offloaded him for a decent fee, but instead offered him a massive contract with the aim of getting even more for him.
How many clubs in the world are ready, able and want to drop £100m on a striker? Very few. Then how many would do so on someone who is 26 who would demand £13m a year on a 4 year contract, and then add in agent fees etc. so total cost circa £160m.
None.
Going to turkey didn’t help - but that’s a direct result of greed.
Times have changed.
As far as I know he's got a release clause at €75m
It’s more like €130m.
Like who? Like you say, we’re not swimming in the right pools for Isak right now. Osimhen and Gyokeres are the “best” options out there and they both have question marks. The striking market is dead.
I knew those Fabrizio Romano and David Ornstein guys were full of it. How do I follow you instead?
No, its 70.
But the key important factor before you guy a top or really good CF. Like building high tower.
Imagine CF is the top floor. You get the build the fundament/basement, 1 st floor, 2nd floor, 3 rd then the top floor.
In other words you get to buy and get top build ball players from CB and RB, further up the floor = top cm creative players, further up top wingers with top service ability....Then CF.
Then the job is. You have to analyze Manchester United first team and squad. Do United have what it require and demand to become a top premier league club? Not what it require at middle table and bottom teams.
And the stats have been showing. What? United have struggling to score goals in the last 2/3 seasons. Special against low and tight block.
So the solutions to the problems are:
United have to buy top service player deeper back. A top right foot of service like Trent Alex from Liverpool. CM/8 Kevin De Bruyne at his peak. Or the free CAM behind the striker in Florian Wirtz from Bayer Leverkusen.
Do and build all those steps before you buy a top CF.....if not. Doesn't matter if you buy 1,2 or 5 top strikers. They will struggle. If you haven't build a top strong fundament, basement of the a tower.
And in the end. Julian Draxler answer a reporter about his CF teammates : "His job on the pitch is scoring goals " . Totally correct.
As long as you scored goals and having top end product. Helping your team win matches and get the job done. Get 3 points and get it over the line. You have done what it require and demand from you as a CF.
What ability required most as a CF. You get to be as sharp as feck. A sniper of a CF, with ruthless and killer instinct.
Compare to wingers, position that require top one on one and top ball skills ability. With CF. It require lesser of those abilities. But if you are a complete CF like Brazil Ronaldo, appear some decades or more each time. Then you are just meant to be a natural born killer....on the pitch. You are coming to this earth to become a goal machine. A natural born goalscorer...a natural goalscorer talent.
That is how you build a top consistent really good attacking team. From a solid and strong fundament. From the bottom to the top floor.
Imagine CF is the top floor. You get the build the fundament/basement, 1 st floor, 2nd floor, 3 rd then the top floor.
In other words you get to buy and get top build ball players from CB and RB, further up the floor = top cm creative players, further up top wingers with top service ability....Then CF.
Then the job is. You have to analyze Manchester United first team and squad. Do United have what it require and demand to become a top premier league club? Not what it require at middle table and bottom teams.
And the stats have been showing. What? United have struggling to score goals in the last 2/3 seasons. Special against low and tight block.
So the solutions to the problems are:
United have to buy top service player deeper back. A top right foot of service like Trent Alex from Liverpool. CM/8 Kevin De Bruyne at his peak. Or the free CAM behind the striker in Florian Wirtz from Bayer Leverkusen.
Do and build all those steps before you buy a top CF.....if not. Doesn't matter if you buy 1,2 or 5 top strikers. They will struggle. If you haven't build a top strong fundament, basement of the a tower.
And in the end. Julian Draxler answer a reporter about his CF teammates : "His job on the pitch is scoring goals " . Totally correct.
As long as you scored goals and having top end product. Helping your team win matches and get the job done. Get 3 points and get it over the line. You have done what it require and demand from you as a CF.
What ability required most as a CF. You get to be as sharp as feck. A sniper of a CF, with ruthless and killer instinct.
Compare to wingers, position that require top one on one and top ball skills ability. With CF. It require lesser of those abilities. But if you are a complete CF like Brazil Ronaldo, appear some decades or more each time. Then you are just meant to be a natural born killer....on the pitch. You are coming to this earth to become a goal machine. A natural born goalscorer...a natural goalscorer talent.
That is how you build a top consistent really good attacking team. From a solid and strong fundament. From the bottom to the top floor.
Such a clinical ST. Hope we go in for him in the summer
Saudi bound
Gyokeres it is then.
Where'd you get that?
28 goals in 32 matches yet some on here turn their noses up at the idea. Madness
Right now, I'd say Galatasaray have to be a strong contender to just keep him. He also just reaffirmed how much he likes it there.
63 million pound release clause for Osimhen feels like the bargain of the century when you consider what Hojlund cost us.
Put another way, I guess it makes Hojlund look like the worst striker signing of the century.
Put another way, I guess it makes Hojlund look like the worst striker signing of the century.
Napoli want their fee which I'm sure Galatasaray won't meet. Osimhen has repeatedly said he wants the PL too and has also agreed deals with saudi in the past.
On the other hand a lot of those are penalties and he is playing for the dominant team in a fairly weak league. He has only scored more than 20 goals once previously in his career across six seasons in one of the top leagues and so he is not the sure thing that some posters seem to think he is. He would be an upgrade for us certainly but how much of an upgrade is debatable and then you have to add in the absences for AFCON and a fairly lengthy injury history. Not turning up noses so much as exercising understandable caution.
He will have still finished well over 20 outfield goals in two separate leagues over 3 seasons, which is a level of quality light years beyond anything we have at present. My first choice is Gyokeres since I've watched him a lot this season, but failing that, I would take Osimhen over all of the other names mentioned.
I am more concerned about his fitness record coming to EPL then about his goalscoring record. for that money and wage we might have another problem on our hands.
Ornstein saying it who is the goat on transfers
If we let Osimhen go to Saudi Arabia we are fecking idiots. Top goalscorer, just entering his prime, there for the taking. Just make it happen.
At some point our new part owner needs to stop being the Grinch's and Ebenezer Scrooge's lovechild and spend some fecking money on the squad.
Huge chunk of the wage budget falling away after Casemiro and Rashford will have left, no excuses for not signing Osimhen.
At some point our new part owner needs to stop being the Grinch's and Ebenezer Scrooge's lovechild and spend some fecking money on the squad.
Huge chunk of the wage budget falling away after Casemiro and Rashford will have left, no excuses for not signing Osimhen.
I agree. If we are going to sign someone like Delap or Mateta for 45m anyway, just pay the 62 and sign Osimhen. Different class.
Last summer Osimhen agreed a deal of 600k a week to go to Saudi. Do you think we should match that?
Did we ever find out if the rumours of a 500k p/w salary at Napoli were true? That might explain the Saudi move. No chance we pay that.
You're not factoring in the difference in wages. Over the course of an average contract the overall difference will be vast
I'm just thinking about the posts you make about Hojlunds past record and can't help but read this and smile.
I truly believe If we somehow managed to sign this man, we'd be straight back into challenging for top 4 without making any other changes to the squad.
He will score many goals from the chances we currently make and waste, which raises the confidence.
It would like a Van Persie signing where the message is, 'if you cant find him, you wont play'.
He will score many goals from the chances we currently make and waste, which raises the confidence.
It would like a Van Persie signing where the message is, 'if you cant find him, you wont play'.
No.
But I am convinced that players who are not at the end of their career still will consider a move to a famous club in a relevant league over a move to Saudi league even if they don't earn the same. Saudi clubs have to offer so much more to compensate for their sporting unattractiveness.
We would have to offer big wages though, no doubt. If our goal is to have no player on big wages, we should pass. We'll then also have no top players.
And so will the quality of performance.
Would be a good signing for the rumoured release clause
But wages really need to be in the region of 250-300k a week
More than that we should pass, or have we not learned the lesson of expensive failures yet?
But wages really need to be in the region of 250-300k a week
More than that we should pass, or have we not learned the lesson of expensive failures yet?
No one is going to match a Saudi salary (they need to overpay there to convince players to make the move)
Last summer he rumoured to be seeking parity to small increase on his 200k a week Napoli salary. And Chelsea offered 50% less with the other half being made up of bonuses that were team related (including UCL qualification) If Chelsea offered 200-250k he would have been a Chelsea player
He's a mercenary looking for a massive payday. He turned down four offers from Chelsea on transfer deadline day because they wouldn't pay him enough!
Must buy. Purely because we could make up a chant to the tune of 50 Cents' Many Men (Wish Death)