Victor Osimhen

The point we should think most is if the players fit what we needed most as a profile. Then we can negotiate the cost. If not feasible move to the next one.

Also, i just dont know why fans always want to name calling players as mercs or money hungry...etc just because they want as much as possible for themselves. If we cant afford it then its ok. I know we fans love the club and want whats best for the club, but that should not enable us to start calling and putting a mark on players because we could not afford such players.

What is a fair salary? Why players have to yield to clubs' suppose fair salary? Why cant players ask for as much as they can and why should they have to endure the suppose name calling when they just want to get as much as they can for their services? Fair is suppose to be both ways not just one way.
 
Id favour Osimhen over Gyokeres personally I feel he would fare better in the EPL he's more of an aerial threat too
 
BeforeKeanetherewasRobson said:
I’m ONLY responding to the post that a Garnacho/Osimhen swap would be huge for us and PSR.

Nothing else. No other costs or savings from other players/cuts, just that swap.
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The more I think about it the more it's a total no brainer.

Conte doesn't like Osimhen and we know Conte is staying at Napoli.
Conte tried to sign Garnacho last season and we know Amorim is staying and does not want Garnacho.
Osimhen has one year left on his contract with Napoli (exp. 2026)
Personally, I'd go with a loan both ways with no obligation to buy. If Garnacho lights up Serie A then we can get more money for him and Osimhen would be an immediate upgrade for us
 
Ronaldo's Love Child said:
The more I think about it the more it's a total no brainer.

Conte doesn't like Osimhen and we know Conte is staying at Napoli.
Conte tried to sign Garnacho last season and we know Amorim is staying and does not want Garnacho.
Osimhen has one year left on his contract with Napoli (exp. 2026)
Personally, I'd go with a loan both ways with no obligation to buy. If Garnacho lights up Serie A then we can get more money for him and Osimhen would be an immediate upgrade for us
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And the wage disparity?

Agree with the sentiment, mind. Especially if funds were redirected to midfield.
 
Another problem we'd have is it's an Afcon year and it starts in mid December this year so we could potentially lose Osimhen, Mbeumo and Amad for the whole of the Christmas/new year period.
 
MaMa given red said:
Another problem we'd have is it's an Afcon year and it starts in mid December this year so we could potentially lose Osimhen, Mbeumo and Amad for the whole of the Christmas/new year period.
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Don't worry we have Sancho and Rashford :lol:
 
MaMa given red said:
Another problem we'd have is it's an Afcon year and it starts in mid December this year so we could potentially lose Osimhen, Mbeumo and Amad for the whole of the Christmas/new year period.
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And Onana....!! :rolleyes:
 
Ronaldo's Love Child said:
The more I think about it the more it's a total no brainer.

Conte doesn't like Osimhen and we know Conte is staying at Napoli.
Conte tried to sign Garnacho last season and we know Amorim is staying and does not want Garnacho.
Osimhen has one year left on his contract with Napoli (exp. 2026)
Personally, I'd go with a loan both ways with no obligation to buy. If Garnacho lights up Serie A then we can get more money for him and Osimhen would be an immediate upgrade for us
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Why would Napoli not sell this summer then?
 
Cathy Ferguson said:
Why would Napoli not sell this summer then?
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They have been trying to sell him for two years but haven't managed to. At this point, there are very few clubs who will match Napoli's valuation and Osimhen's wages. If they are interested in Garnacho, its not the worse deal from our perspective.
 
Ronaldo's Love Child said:
The more I think about it the more it's a total no brainer.

Conte doesn't like Osimhen and we know Conte is staying at Napoli.
Conte tried to sign Garnacho last season and we know Amorim is staying and does not want Garnacho.
Osimhen has one year left on his contract with Napoli (exp. 2026)
Personally, I'd go with a loan both ways with no obligation to buy. If Garnacho lights up Serie A then we can get more money for him and Osimhen would be an immediate upgrade for us
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So, Napoli would loan a player who is out of contract next summer? Where is logic in that?
 
Andycoleno9 said:
So, Napoli would loan a player who is out of contract next summer? Where is logic in that?
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Then they'd need to accept a far lower bid.

Napoli are in no position to demand his release fee based on the above details; one year to go, public fall-out with manager and chairman, previously being told he has no place in the team. When Maignan is reportedly going for €15-20m because he won't sign a new deal, nobody should be offering more than, say, €30m for Osimhen.

Plus, if they loaned him, at least they wouldn't have his wages to deal with.
 
Andycoleno9 said:
So, Napoli would loan a player who is out of contract next summer? Where is logic in that?
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Getting his wages off their books.

If the player refuses to go where they want him to, in terms of being sold, the next best option is to loan them out, which might be what happens with Sancho.

In fact, the dream scenario would be palming him off on Napoli and getting Osimhen in return. Although Sancho would rather put his hands through a meat grinder than be put to work by Conte.
 
Fortitude said:
Getting his wages off their books.

If the player refuses to go where they want him to, in terms of being sold, the next best option is to loan them out, which might be what happens with Sancho.

In fact, the dream scenario would be palming him off on Napoli and getting Osimhen in return. Although Sancho would rather put his hands through a meat grinder than be put to work by Conte.
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We did it with Maupay last summer. Loaned him out to Marseille just to get rid of him.
 
ManRed said:
Can we get him on loan and pay his wages? Will be a great move to sort our issues and keep $$$$ for rest of the team build
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Ronaldo's Love Child said:
The more I think about it the more it's a total no brainer.

Conte doesn't like Osimhen and we know Conte is staying at Napoli.
Conte tried to sign Garnacho last season and we know Amorim is staying and does not want Garnacho.
Osimhen has one year left on his contract with Napoli (exp. 2026)
Personally, I'd go with a loan both ways with no obligation to buy. If Garnacho lights up Serie A then we can get more money for him and Osimhen would be an immediate upgrade for us
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Unlikely. His contract runs out in 2026 (10 to 12M€ net), but Napoli got an option to extend his contract to 2027 (by giving him a substantial raise to €15M)... if he isn't sold this summer, it is likely Napoli will enforce that option in order not to lose him for free, at that point they maay be forced to negotiate below the release clause (€75M).. The only reason they haven't triggered that option yet is to avoid paying him the very big wage immediately.

Italian press seems to believe that Osimhen had an agreement with Juventus (would pay him his current Napoli Salary €12M net + bonuses) but they can't buy him until they offload Vlahovic, not to mention the 75M release clause doesn't apply to Italian clubs (De Laurentis lost Higuain to Juventus because of a release clause, he doesn't want that happening again).


The ”Conte doesn’t like him” is a myth. The divorce between Napoli and Osimhen preceded him, he was never an available choice for Conte.
 
Ronaldo's Love Child said:
The more I think about it the more it's a total no brainer.

Conte doesn't like Osimhen and we know Conte is staying at Napoli.
Conte tried to sign Garnacho last season and we know Amorim is staying and does not want Garnacho.
Osimhen has one year left on his contract with Napoli (exp. 2026)
Personally, I'd go with a loan both ways with no obligation to buy. If Garnacho lights up Serie A then we can get more money for him and Osimhen would be an immediate upgrade for us
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Osimhen has apparently made it clear he won’t go out on loan again so a permanent deal where we pay roughly the same fee for Osimhen as Napoli would pay for Garnacho would be massive for us PSR wise as Garnacho is homegrown.
 
northernsoul74 said:
Well he’s waiting for someone. I still suspect it’s us for some reason. Big respect for backing himself and wanting to play for a genuine big club in a big league. I’m really surprised by posters continuously knocking his personality, there’s nothing to suggest he’s difficult. He actually seems like a pretty good role model for Nigerian football, and African football in general.
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It’s strange right. Some paint him as this massive mercenary type of character which is completely unwarranted.

He’s fallen out with Napoli due to the quite unbelievable racially offensive content their media team published directly about him, and I believe there’s were other instances of this before too. So quite rightly he wanted out, but because he is on high wages which he well and truly earned unlike many at Utd, he’s been difficult to sell. Chelsea attempted to low-ball with a reported 150k p/w offer and he said no, which is fair enough. He's worth more than that. I can't pretend I know too much about Osimhen and his personal life, but I've read money is important to him like many African players, because he has a large family / community he wants to support. I suspect there’s some underlying subconscious discrimination against a black player demanding a high salary knitted in there too driving this mercenary view of him, but let's not get into that on here.
 
Pintu said:
Unlikely. His contract runs out in 2026 (10 to 12M€ net), but Napoli got an option to extend his contract to 2027 (by giving him a substantial raise to €15M)... if he isn't sold this summer, it is likely Napoli will enforce that option in order not to lose him for free, at that point they maay be forced to negotiate below the release clause (€75M).. The only reason they haven't triggered that option yet is to avoid paying him the very big wage immediately.

Italian press seems to believe that Osimhen had an agreement with Juventus (would pay him his current Napoli Salary €12M net + bonuses) but they can't buy him until they offload Vlahovic, not to mention the 75M release clause doesn't apply to Italian clubs (De Laurentis lost Higuain to Juventus because of a release clause, he doesn't want that happening again).


The ”Conte doesn’t like him” is a myth. The divorce between Napoli and Osimhen preceded him, he was never an available choice for Conte.
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You’re essentially saying Napoli will Woodward themselves. Sounds counterproductive as the player doesn’t have to leave by sale if no club he fancies come in for him.
 
If he ends up here, while Gyokeres goes to Hilal, that would be a massive plot twist :confused:
 
he's fast and good in the air, i'll give him that. He just gives off vibes of another Rasmus type of non technical forward
 
This is really odd one, isn't it? Player in his prime, by most fans AND pundits labelled as one of the best strikers in the world and yet there are no reliable links to any top club.
At this moment only two clubs made an offer; Al Hilal and Galatasaray (current odds on Galata are 1/1).

I am moving on. He is my dream signing for years now but only United rumours so far were that we are not interested. Both by reliable journos. Such a shame when you think how much dross we bought and overpaid in last decade.
 
Andycoleno9 said:
This is really odd one, isn't it? Player in his prime, by most fans AND pundits labelled as one of the best strikers in the world and yet there are no reliable links to any top club.
At this moment only two clubs made an offer; Al Hilal and Galatasaray (current odds on Galata are 1/1).

I am moving on. He is my dream signing for years now but only United rumours so far were that we are not interested. Both by reliable journos. Such a shame when you think how much dross we bought and overpaid in last decade.
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Chelsea tried to sign him last summer but were rejected, does it really matter though who else is in for targets?

I'm old enough to remember us winning multiple transfer 'races' over our rivals over the years only for those signings to be huge failures. Interest from other clubs has little to do with a players level or how good they'll end up being for another club.

A few years ago Spurs turned down signing Bruno and we were the only one's genuinely after him yet how did that turn out?

Feel like this other club links stuff is wholly irrelevant when evaluating potential signings but people keep bringing it up when arguing against certain signings
 
Andycoleno9 said:
This is really odd one, isn't it? Player in his prime, by most fans AND pundits labelled as one of the best strikers in the world and yet there are no reliable links to any top club.
At this moment only two clubs made an offer; Al Hilal and Galatasaray (current odds on Galata are 1/1).

I am moving on. He is my dream signing for years now but only United rumours so far were that we are not interested. Both by reliable journos. Such a shame when you think how much dross we bought and overpaid in last decade.
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I can only think there is something going on with his entourage. Carl Anka basically said that last week, when you talk to his people there are numerous characters involved and it is impossible to get a read on what exactly it is he wants. It seems getting anything agreed is virtually impossible and perhaps for that reason clubs are opting not to waste their time. I think he is getting very bad advice from his inner circle.
 
Fortitude said:
You’re essentially saying Napoli will Woodward themselves. Sounds counterproductive as the player doesn’t have to leave by sale if no club he fancies come in for him.
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Yes. Clubs do that all the time with top assets. Osimhen is their biggest asset. They made the big mistake when they gave him that crazy salary (10M net + bonuses per year = £300/350) back in December 2023, someone changed their mind later... Since September 2024 it has been damage control from both sides. Now we know he isn't going to Saudi. And Gala can't get the money... I believe this saga will once again drag on to late August... At that point, either a rich top club (PL big clubs/Bayern or PSG) takes out the money and decides to spend it on him (75M in fees + crazy wages) or an Italian club (only Juventus is rich enough in Italy) gets the money (FFP says it is tricky for Juve if Vlahovic is staying) and Napoli accepts to sell to them (probably towards €85M).
 
Andycoleno9 said:
This is really odd one, isn't it? Player in his prime, by most fans AND pundits labelled as one of the best strikers in the world and yet there are no reliable links to any top club.
At this moment only two clubs made an offer; Al Hilal and Galatasaray (current odds on Galata are 1/1).

I am moving on. He is my dream signing for years now but only United rumours so far were that we are not interested. Both by reliable journos. Such a shame when you think how much dross we bought and overpaid in last decade.
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I think we're right to try and leave the excessive salaries and agents fees in the past. We may miss out on the odd good player here or there but overall we'll be better off.
 
Pintu said:
Yes. Clubs do that all the time with top assets. Osimhen is their biggest asset. They made the big mistake when they gave him that crazy salary (10M net + bonuses per year = £300/350) back in December 2023, someone changed their mind later... Since September 2024 it has been damage control from both sides. Now we know he isn't going to Saudi. And Gala can't get the money... I believe this saga will once again drag on to late August... At that point, either a rich top club (PL big clubs/Bayern or PSG) takes out the money and decides to spend it on him (75M in fees + crazy wages) or an Italian club (only Juventus is rich enough in Italy) gets the money (FFP says it is tricky for Juve if Vlahovic is staying) and Napoli accepts to sell to them (probably towards €85M).
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By what you’re saying, clubs will just sit back and watch Napoli immolate themselves and then pluck the player from the charred remains.

Napoli are more likely to have a Rashford/Sancho situation from that than a sale.
 
We already have 3 players with more than 300k a week in Rashford, Sancho and Casemeiro who are all not very useful to the club. Osimhen will be another one if signed.

We also need to pay approx. 70M transfer fees. I think we shouldn't go for this one when many employees at the club being retrenched for cost cutting measures.
 
aeh1991 said:
If he ends up here, while Gyokeres goes to Hilal, that would be a massive plot twist :confused:
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To be fair to Gyokeres I wouldn't begrudge him at all from taking the Saudi-route. The lad has done it the hard way and has never had a big contract (currently earns 46k EUR per week). Fair play to him if he is able to 10x his salary at this stage in his career.

I also wouldn't begrudge Osimhen tbf, I'll just be happy to get one of them.
 
Pintu said:
Yes. Clubs do that all the time with top assets. Osimhen is their biggest asset. They made the big mistake when they gave him that crazy salary (10M net + bonuses per year = £300/350) back in December 2023, someone changed their mind later... Since September 2024 it has been damage control from both sides. Now we know he isn't going to Saudi. And Gala can't get the money... I believe this saga will once again drag on to late August... At that point, either a rich top club (PL big clubs/Bayern or PSG) takes out the money and decides to spend it on him (75M in fees + crazy wages) or an Italian club (only Juventus is rich enough in Italy) gets the money (FFP says it is tricky for Juve if Vlahovic is staying) and Napoli accepts to sell to them (probably towards €85M).
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Osimhen will be a free agent next year.
Anka’s comments were more about De Laurentis being too proud to admit defeat on this deal and let him leave on Osimhens terms.

I could see us signing him for 40m in late July on a reasonable contract with Osimhen getting a healthy sign on.
Or we sign him in 6-12 months on a further reduced fee or free.
 
Fortitude said:
By what you’re saying, clubs will just sit back and watch Napoli immolate themselves and then pluck the player from the charred remains.

Napoli are more likely to have a Rashford/Sancho situation from that than a sale.
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Cheeky Sancho for Osimhen swap, both clubs pay 0% of the wages for the incoming player. Bites less than us subsidising 60% of Sanchos wages for dortmund.
 
AkaAkuma said:
Osimhen will be a free agent next year.
Anka’s comments were more about De Laurentis being too proud to admit defeat on this deal and let him leave on Osimhens terms.

I could see us signing him for 40m in late July on a reasonable contract with Osimhen getting a healthy sign on.
Or we sign him in 6-12 months on a further reduced fee or free.
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Wish we could have him and Gyokeres as they both have different striker profiles but that's unrealistic
 
Yoralif said:
Cheeky Sancho for Osimhen swap, both clubs pay 0% of the wages for the incoming player. Bites less than us subsidising 60% of Sanchos wages for dortmund.
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Fortitude said:
Getting his wages off their books.

If the player refuses to go where they want him to, in terms of being sold, the next best option is to loan them out, which might be what happens with Sancho.

In fact, the dream scenario would be palming him off on Napoli and getting Osimhen in return. Although Sancho would rather put his hands through a meat grinder than be put to work by Conte.
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;)
 
Fortitude said:
By what you’re saying, clubs will just sit back and watch Napoli immolate themselves and then pluck the player from the charred remains.

Napoli are more likely to have a Rashford/Sancho situation from that than a sale.
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That'd be the wise thing to do for a club capable of making a deal with him and convincing him of waiting it out. Might take 24 months though...

AkaAkuma said:
Osimhen will be a free agent next year.
Anka’s comments were more about De Laurentis being too proud to admit defeat on this deal and let him leave on Osimhens terms.

I could see us signing him for 40m in late July on a reasonable contract with Osimhen getting a healthy sign on.
Or we sign him in 6-12 months on a further reduced fee or free.
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Only if Napoli doesn't trigger the extension option -to 2027- that he already signed last year (in exchange for Napoli decreasing his release clause and allowing him to go on loan to Gala for 9 months)...


 
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