Nico Williams might be even more complicated to sign from Athletic
If ever he does become available, Barcelona will pull off all types of financial forgery to snap him up before anyone
Victor Osimhen
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Nik (@Rood), Jamie (@Vault Dweller) and Ed (@That'sHernandez) give their end of season awards out! They celebrate the best players, goals and moments of the season (there were some, honestly) and also give out awards for the worst and most disappointing players/moments of the season.
They then discuss all the latest transfer rumours and get into the potential ins and outs this summer at Old Trafford.
If ever he does become available, Barcelona will pull off all types of financial forgery to snap him up before anyone
He has suffered reputational damage after fallouts with Napoli and Nigeria national team
And also is on big wages.
Nico Williams is also on big wages too
He’s elite and should be target A above gyokeres in my view.
Is this guy's penalty technique even legit?
I'm not the best on the finer points of the rulebook but I had it in my head you're not allowed to come to a complete stop in your run-up. Osimhen seems to do it every time.
(Yes, I have just been watching a goal video compilation)
Edit: tried to Google for this and potentially that's only forbidden when you're positioned to strike the ball (and OK earlier in the run-up)?
I'm always surprised by how badly I know the rules. Pretty sure that everything I was taught about foul throws as a kid is wrong too.
I'm not the best on the finer points of the rulebook but I had it in my head you're not allowed to come to a complete stop in your run-up. Osimhen seems to do it every time.
(Yes, I have just been watching a goal video compilation)
Edit: tried to Google for this and potentially that's only forbidden when you're positioned to strike the ball (and OK earlier in the run-up)?
I'm always surprised by how badly I know the rules. Pretty sure that everything I was taught about foul throws as a kid is wrong too.
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I know that we fans don't know even 1% of things happening around club but this is what i don't get. Osimhen would cost more but not THAT much more and he is clearly superior player in every area. Why not go for him instead Gyokeres?
Again, Gyokeres is good signing too but Osimhen is premium striker in current striker market.
Wages… his demands have been astronomically high. Although I agree he’s a better striker.
I was listening to a podcast and someone mentioned that its his entourage that are very difficult to deal with. He has alot of people around him which makes it hard.
Firstly, you have to agree with his team, a wage etc....
Then you have to go negotiate with Napoli, which is another task on its own.
Just a very difficult deal to do.
Just saw a clip where Gab Marcotti was just flabbergasted that there isn't that high interest in him - said doesn't make sense, he is one of the best available strikers out there, works hard and to him, has his head screwed on right, so no drama issues. So what is it about Osimhen who by his body of work is a top striker, that does not make him coveted across the board?
Napoli president will cave eventually in this window on price. Osimhen has a year left on his contract so from Jan 1st 2026 can sign a pre-contract with any club of his choosing.
He could easily end up at Barcelona on a free next summer to replace lewandowski. Could see that happening.
The president will have to be realistic about the fee eventually and bring it down from £75mil to £40mil. When the window shuts in September that's 4 months left till he's free to sign a pre-contract. Osimhen can wait till late in the window as can the buying club I presume. Someone will get one helluva elite striker.
He could easily end up at Barcelona on a free next summer to replace lewandowski. Could see that happening.
The president will have to be realistic about the fee eventually and bring it down from £75mil to £40mil. When the window shuts in September that's 4 months left till he's free to sign a pre-contract. Osimhen can wait till late in the window as can the buying club I presume. Someone will get one helluva elite striker.
Depends on how high those wage demands are. He is staying in Europe and refused Saudis so he knows that in Europe he will not get astronomical wage.
Gyokeres will demand also high wage and his transfer fee is higher than Osimhen's.
Of course, to be clear, we don't know shit about how much Osimhen wants and how much Gyokeres wants BUT all what i am saying is; IF (big IF) difference in wages is few million then we should go for Osimhen.
Find a wages negotiation point for him, he is elite and according to Mitten wants the move to Utd. So forget what you told Ornstein about him not being on our list go and make it happen before Chelsea or scousers.
Talk also of Zirkzee getting involved in a swap for him.
I mean, that is already good enough, but if we can somehow throw Hojlund in as well, then finally we'd look like we were doing something good in the transfer market. First time since RvP or even Carrick.
They have a +1 option on the club side so the bolded is incorrect.
DeLaurentis firmly believes that the release clause at 75M is already heavily discounted, remember he valued him at over 100M before the extension that added the release clause, and it has been widely reported that this is one of the sticking points, he will not budge on that fee.
As @romufc mentioned. Once you get past the 75M fee, which Napoli are not inclined to spread over too many payments, you then have to deal with the entourage around Osimhen. He does not have a single agent or point of contact and clubs that have previously negotiated have spoken with them and thought they had agreed a deal only to find themselves negotiating with someone else the next day and the goalposts have shifted again. A big part of the reason this has dragged on through multiple transfer windows without resolution is that not only is it an expensive deal to do but nobody can really put a firm figure on exactly what it will cost.
We just need the right people who have knowledge of this kind of complex deal. Unfortunately we didn't have them when it came to that Caicedo deal for absolute peanuts
Don't understand why he played in Turkey instead of a top club after Napoli.
Also, no harm in signing both Gyokeres and Osimhen. Hoijlund as third option behind them.
Also, no harm in signing both Gyokeres and Osimhen. Hoijlund as third option behind them.
Think that's a pig just gone over my house, my guess is he couldn't agree a deal with a "top" club
Yep, just to me shows he’s not good a good egg and doesn’t give a crap in all honesty. We’ve had enough of those players. I’d personally avoid at all costs.
There’s a big reason why the likes of Arsenal, Liverpool and other clubs are not even interested. He is one of the best strikers in the world, pity about his attitude.
He’s probably the most anti Liverpool player that they would ever want to sign with his attitude. The complete opposite of what there looking for.
There is a complete lack of strikers but no top clubs want to touch him.
Although if they took Hojlund for him for a straight swap be well worth the gamble once the wages are okay.
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So just how loaded are Galatasaray?
Hojlund so far behind you cannot even see him due to the curvature of the earth.
Why would you sign both? Only one can play. This is a terrible way to build a functioning team.
Again,for the 1000th time
What attitude problems are you talking about?, point them out ,drop the articles
Give me 3 total examples ,that's all I ask.
Napoli are in the same position as United are with Sancho. No one will buy him and he will go on loan again. It might as well be United.
Last summer, no top clubs would entertain Napoli asking price that Saudi club offered for Osimhen. Napoli tried to force Osimhen to Saudi, but he refused. Then they tried to make deal with Chelsea with intention to acquire Lukaku from Chelsea while paying less. That deal didn’t work out when Chelsea gave Osimhen a bad contract. Loan with obligation purchase and lower wage. If he does well, he would be tied down with lower wage on long contract. If he doesn’t meet their expectation, Chelsea would just pay some penalty fee and return him to Napoli.
Turkish league transfer window closes couple weeks after PL, Serie A, Saudi window deadline. So when the dust settled down with Saudi & Chelsea, Napoli only had one option to loan him out when Galatasaray came knocking, so as not to pay his full wage.
Portuguese connection. Buying Dutch league players for a Dutch manager worked so well last time, might as well buy Portuguese league players for our Portuguese coach.
I listed them. Poor injury record(last season was the first in which he missed less than 10 games), potentially difficult personality/agent/entourage, super expensive and likely not quite in that Haaland/Isak/Salah tier of forwards, while having the costs of one
Is he clearly superior in every area?
Osimhen is faster and better in the air.
Does Osimhen definitely have a better first touch, better hold up play, better passing, better at creating chances for team mates, better pressing, better finishing with his feet?
I think the obvious appeal to Gyokeres is going to be he already knows what Amorim wants from his striker, the manager knows he has a good attitude and that they won't clash, knows his personality will fit the dressing room etc.
Pretty sure he was ridiculed/ possibly racially abused by the club in an insane tik-tok post about him.
I have never been impressed by him. I just watched all his goals last season and did the same with Gyokeres and was more impressed with the latters goal variation.
When you look at it though Zirkzee is a 10 in Amorim’s system and after signing Cunha and Mbeumo we have those two plus Bruno, Amad and Mount for those roles then there’s the fact that Hojlund’s book value of around £42 million won’t be picked up by anyone so it makes sense financially if Napoli want Zirkzee and we could do a £30-£35 million plus Zirkzee deal for Osimhen.
Interesting. His agent should already did his homework before he reject Saudi's offer. There are only a handful of clubs that can afford his service even he leaves for free next summer. He probably will go on loan this summer again.
They're both comparably impressive imo, just in very different ways. The only important factor in all of this is who does Amorim prefer.
Would it be possible to pay a fee like £10m and get him in on loan this summer?
Not at this stage. Napoli and Osimhen only agreed to a loan last year because they ran out of time and they still have a couple of months to sort out something permanent this window. I don't know what the stance will be from INEOS towards loan signings, they are typically dead money as you are paying somebody elses asset and they seem quite fixated on squad value and sell on potential. I could not see INEOS sanctioning a deal like the one for Amrabat for example but I suppose if we are desperate close to deadline day we might take the plunge.
Zirkee is who I'd prefer keeping between him and Hojlund since he's actually a decent footballer just not a striker, but if thats what it takes to bring in an Osimhen...
He has an offer from Galatasaray apparently
I suppose I'm old school and remember United's most successful teams having more strikers competing for a starting place than we had a position for.
Yorke, Cole, Sheringham, Solksjaer
Ruud, Smith, Saha, Rooney
Rooney, Ronaldo, Tevez, Saha
Rooney, Tevez, Berbatov, Ronaldo
Rooney, Berbatov, Chicharito, Robin Van Persie, Welbeck
Ibrahimovic, Rooney, Rashford, Martial
Gosh, when I just list a couple of these groups out like that which won trophies it's kind of jarring to think of this last season and this next one without more fire power
That's really helpful context I didn't know. Thank you! Definitely reassures me a little bit around where he went. Reasonable output there and in Europa it seems.
I don't think we need Zirkzee at all if we have Cunha, Mbuemo, Mount and Bruno all with the club. In the off chance Sancho stays too even more so. I think out and out strikers needs major depth
Pity it's such an utterly dreadful source
Maybe loan swap? Give Rasmus another year and we have another striker in case he is not able to turn it around. We will have Mount, Cunha, Mbuemo, Amad and Bruno who can play where Zirkzee is playing.
But we only play one striker now. You're not going to get two players for that price and on those wages to share that role. Times have changed.
I mean the four bolded aren't even all strikers. Rashford and Martial played on the wing