Maybe he saw someone who could not lead ants to a sugar hill.
Vida's piece on Rio from UTD website
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
Him and Rio were just stupidly good at some points during 07-11. Just go no change out of them in any aspect. We definitely took them for granted, how we could do with a Vidic or Rio now.
The similarity between Keane and Vidic was most obvious when you saw the teamsheet and they weren't on it. You would immediately be far less confident going into the game.
Ferdinand and Scholes were fantastic players but I really struggle to understand how fans could have watched United week in week out in those eras and thought they were better or more influential players than Vidic and Keane.
Obviously it's a team game but even in isolation and trying to 'judge' with all the stipulations, the bolded bit is where we just value and see things differently isn't it?
The last Utd player I felt, who had that influence was Fletcher. His peak was short but my word was it great. I often felt his performances exceeded Carrick by levels, who I felt with all the technical ability just didn't force himself in the game enough..
No way, Both Rio and Evans were better than him in 2012-2013. Rio even made the team of the year.
Vidic was brilliant form 2006/2007 up to his Basel injury, and in 2010-2011 I would say that he was the best CB in the world and probably our most important player.
How much would peak Rio and Vidic worth in the current market?
VDS also being quite vocal and experienced helped a lot.
That is one aspect of the game that i always wished for DDG to improve, even when he's going after a ball that's being challenged by opposition player he tends to shy away from commiting himself fully. Reckon he's not a fan of getting physical.
Would be nice if VDS also writes about the trio. I remember VDS missing a Rio back pass into the goal and everyone including Fergie felt sorry for him and not angry at all. He was so consistent and dependable along with Vida and Rio. The trio were good as Rooney-Ronaldo-Tevez and did it for half a decade!
I hope Ole is drilling the “we have to win, we have to win, we have to win” mindset into the squad.
I hope Ole is drilling the “we have to win, we have to win, we have to win” mindset into the squad.
Rio making team of the year was like Giggs winning player of the year. A player who was past his best having a surprising resurgence when he was better than expected.
Vidic missed a lot of games through injury that season but was still easily the best defender at the club when he got on the pitch.
The articles are very very similar. I think someone has been copying homework
Both were great reads.
They highlighted the two issues I've posted about fairly often on this forum about our current team.
De Gea doesn't offer that protection, and he certainly doesn't talk to the CBs like VDS did.
Lindelof and Maguire havent YET developed the ability to cover for each others weaknesses. Particularly Lindelof who struggled to read the game and cover in behind Maguire when Maguire goes in for the ball/tackle.
A good partnership takes good players to a level they couldn't otherwise achieve. I really hope our CBs take inspiration from this to work together.
Fergie hoped Jones and Smalling could have achieved this but ultimately injuries(& quality) put an end to that dream.
They highlighted the two issues I've posted about fairly often on this forum about our current team.
De Gea doesn't offer that protection, and he certainly doesn't talk to the CBs like VDS did.
Lindelof and Maguire havent YET developed the ability to cover for each others weaknesses. Particularly Lindelof who struggled to read the game and cover in behind Maguire when Maguire goes in for the ball/tackle.
A good partnership takes good players to a level they couldn't otherwise achieve. I really hope our CBs take inspiration from this to work together.
Fergie hoped Jones and Smalling could have achieved this but ultimately injuries(& quality) put an end to that dream.
And it says "United unscripted". Go figure
Jaap Stam?
It's entirely possible he was planning on leaving when his contract ended in 2014 before that season and maybe even before he knew Ferguson was retiring.
What else could he have done signed another contract and waited around until we were on top again before leaving?
He'd still be here in that scenario.
He didn’t ditch us mid season. He left in the summer.
It was announced in February though. He'd already made up his mind that he didn't want to be here and at that point things had only been shit for 6 months.