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Fully caught up now, ready for 602

Is that Bjorn dead then? Or was it just another vision? Half of the battles in later seasons are like tripping balls and trying to work out what's real. If it was real, how did Ivor manage to hobble right up to him?
 

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Final season was released today. Looking forward to watching it later.
 

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There’s a spoiler in the episode tile images. fecking idiots. How hard is it not to do that?

Reminds me of when the Netflix description literally told me who died in an episode of Sons.
 
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Without giving away any spoilers, is Part 2 better than Part 1?
 

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There’s a spoiler in the episode tile images. fecking idiots. How hard is it not to do that?

Reminds me of when the Netflix description literally told me who died in the episode.
I saw, the last episode thumbnail. What a bunch of a holes. Fecking amateurs.
 

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I'm about half way through the new batch. Almost a return to form so far, for me. Best of the post Ragnar stuff anyhow, though maybe I'm just super bored. Almost ruined the whole thing with one line though;

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Finished it yesterday. Thought it was pretty good, though I don’t like the way it just went all feminism at the end, unless that actually happened then fair enough. Thought the conclusion was done pretty well. I’ll take it.
 

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Watched entire thing. Loved it.

Praise Floki, but Ubbe doesn't look like Ragnar at all. He's more like Aslaug.

Kjetill standing on a whale and screaming was the funniest shit I watched in a while. Almost meme material.
 

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There’s a spoiler in the episode tile images. fecking idiots. How hard is it not to do that?

Reminds me of when the Netflix description literally told me who died in an episode of Sons.
I remember really 24 and went to Amazon to buy the box set of season 2 (when I was halfway through season 1) and the description started with "struggling to deal with the shocking death of his wife at the end of season one..._
 

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I remember really 24 and went to Amazon to buy the box set of season 2 (when I was halfway through season 1) and the description started with "struggling to deal with the shocking death of his wife at the end of season one..._
:lol: someone start a petition to get this brought up in parliament
 

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Finished now. Great series. You really feel like you’ve been on a long journey when you look back and think about everything that’s happened, all the lives it lived through. Still wish we’d seen more of young ragner.

Started getting a bit fed up of it being so religion heavy but it’s obviously very fitting. Even more so when we’ll see more Christian Vikings in this spin off.

Ivar’s death felt a little rushed and anticlimactic in the end, for me. Although the music was great.
 

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Loved Vikings, okay conclusion, although I would have preferred a series that were more true to historical facts. Harald Finehair for example. There was a Harald Fairhair, first king of Norway, but he died of disease. And the timespan of the series seems to be like 100 years of history crammed into 40 years on-screen. But great to watch. I hope there will be done more correct Viking series or movies sometime also. There are some really epic stories, battles and characters yet to be told.
 

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Awesome series. Better than game of thrones, which dragged on way too long. I predicted correctly that they’d eventually show
the exploration of North America. Was a good touch and maybe could’ve been shown earlier in the series instead of dragging the lost-at-sea bits for so long
. Great acting and fight scenes.
 

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Awesome series. Better than game of thrones, which dragged on way too long. I predicted correctly that they’d eventually show
the exploration of North America. Was a good touch and maybe could’ve been shown earlier in the series instead of dragging the lost-at-sea bits for so long
. Great acting and fight scenes.
Yes they could have done some more on the North america part. Also, they could have used Leiv Eriksson in the series as he was the one who went there, around year 1000. While Ubbe, who went there in Vikings, died in 878.
The mixing of timelines in Vikings is what I think should have been more accurate, even though I know this is not an accurate history documentary.

For those interested, while waiting for the spin off series Valhalla, here is a link to an article on History Channel about Viking exploration of North America and some other stuff:

https://www.history.com/news/the-viking-explorer-who-beat-columbus-to-america

And here is some wikipedia artcles about the characters in Vikings (and some others not mentioned in the series). Some are from sagas, some from more accurate sources:

Ragnar and wives:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ragnar_Lodbrok
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagertha
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Þóra_Borgarhjǫrtr
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aslaug


About Ragnars wives:
https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/t...-Lothbrok-wives-married-Lagertha-Thora-Aslaug

His sons, 12 or more in total but 9 shown here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubba
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Björn_Ironside
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivar_the_Boneless
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hvitserk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halfdan_Ragnarsson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigurd_Snake-in-the-Eye
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigfred_and_Halfdan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Weatherhat
https://www.geni.com/people/Agnar-Ragnarsson/6000000024206351947

Others:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hrafna-Flóki_Vilgerðarson

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harald_Fairhair
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halfdan_the_Black

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunnhild,_Mother_of_Kings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freydís_Eiríksdóttir

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketill_Flatnose

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horik_I

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_the_Great
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecgberht,_King_of_Wessex
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Æthelwulf,_King_of_Wessex
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_of_Flanders
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odo_of_France
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gisela_of_France
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_the_Bald
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heahmund
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ælla_of_Northumbria
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynethryth

And here is a series of documentarys about the vikings, many of them the same as in the series (see the playlist to find whats interesting among the videos):


There is also plans to make a movie about Harald Hardrada, the last great viking king, Di Caprio is planning it and a script has been written. It is to be in the style of Bracehart and the lead character to be played by DiCaprio acc. to rumours.
 

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So I’m up to the last episode of season 5.
i didn’t think the show would still be watchable after Ragnar but damn it’s addictive. I really enjoy watching ubber mimic Ragnar in so many ways
 

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Finished the show. Fantastic.

What a ride that was, so good.

To think that 4 generations after Rollo, William "The Conqueror" went to England and conquered it. Rollo's bloodline still rules.
 

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So I’m up to the last episode of season 5.
i didn’t think the show would still be watchable after Ragnar but damn it’s addictive. I really enjoy watching ubber mimic Ragnar in so many ways
I found the actor playing Bjorn was clearly trying to mimic Ragnor’s mannerisms, which makes sense as he spent the most time with him, and was clearly trying to create a big legacy like arld Rags. Didn’t see it as so much with Ubbe. He was definitely the most likeable for me though.


Yes they could have done some more on the North america part. Also, they could have used Leiv Eriksson in the series as he was the one who went there, around year 1000. While Ubbe, who went there in Vikings, died in 878.
The mixing of timelines in Vikings is what I think should have been more accurate, even though I know this is not an accurate history documentary.

For those interested, while waiting for the spin off series Valhalla, here is a link to an article on History Channel about Viking exploration of North America and some other stuff:

https://www.history.com/news/the-viking-explorer-who-beat-columbus-to-america

And here is some wikipedia artcles about the characters in Vikings (and some others not mentioned in the series). Some are from sagas, some from more accurate sources:

Ragnar and wives:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ragnar_Lodbrok
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagertha
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Þóra_Borgarhjǫrtr
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aslaug


About Ragnars wives:
https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/t...-Lothbrok-wives-married-Lagertha-Thora-Aslaug

His sons, 12 or more in total but 9 shown here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubba
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Björn_Ironside
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivar_the_Boneless
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hvitserk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halfdan_Ragnarsson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigurd_Snake-in-the-Eye
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigfred_and_Halfdan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Weatherhat
https://www.geni.com/people/Agnar-Ragnarsson/6000000024206351947

Others:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hrafna-Flóki_Vilgerðarson

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harald_Fairhair
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halfdan_the_Black

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunnhild,_Mother_of_Kings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freydís_Eiríksdóttir

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketill_Flatnose

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horik_I

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_the_Great
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecgberht,_King_of_Wessex
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Æthelwulf,_King_of_Wessex
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_of_Flanders
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odo_of_France
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gisela_of_France
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_the_Bald
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heahmund
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ælla_of_Northumbria
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynethryth

And here is a series of documentarys about the vikings, many of them the same as in the series (see the playlist to find whats interesting among the videos):


There is also plans to make a movie about Harald Hardrada, the last great viking king, Di Caprio is planning it and a script has been written. It is to be in the style of Bracehart and the lead character to be played by DiCaprio acc. to rumours.
Gonna get stuck in to these links, thanks!

It’s such an interesting time and perhaps somewhat under-appreciated. They were obviously pretty obsessed with fame, which is very interesting in itself.

Edit: reading these, it really seems like either Ragnor and/or the people that write about him are full of shit :lol:
 
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I found the actor playing Bjorn was clearly trying to mimic Ragnor’s mannerisms, which makes sense as he spent the most time with him, and was clearly trying to create a big legacy like arld Rags. Didn’t see it as so much with Ubbe. He was definitely the most likeable for me though.



Gonna get stuck in to these links, thanks!

It’s such an interesting time and perhaps somewhat under-appreciated. They were obviously pretty obsessed with fame, which is very interesting in itself.

Edit: reading these, it really seems like either Ragnor and/or the people that write about him are full of shit :lol:
Great that someone could get some fun out of the links :) I can loose myself on the internet when googling stuff like this. facinating world before modern times.

Yeah experts are not sure if Ragnar even existed. They think he MIGHT have, or that he might be the gathered stories of three kings mixed up somehow, if I remember correctly.
But the sons are very factual, and also more famous.

And yes, Vikings is not accurate. But some things are, but they crammed a lot of different shit from different scandinavian nations/places into one story. But there is so much more material out there. Erik Bloodaxe, Harold Hardrada etc..

I have always been facinated by the Vikings. They are like, the last of the old world in Europe. Fighting until Christianity overwhelmed them. The Viking age was really sort of the battle of the old world vs. the new world.

Looking forward to Vikings : Valhalla now :) It is meant to start airing this year. I hope that still is true even with the virus but who knows. And there we will see some really good characters, Harald Hardråde (Harold Hardrada), Leiv Ericsson (who first came to America), William the Conqueror (Viking descendant as you mention) etc.

I wonder if they will show the maybe last battle for christianization in my area of Norway, The battle of Stiklestad where Harald and his half brother Olav the Holy fought against Hårek (descendant of Harald Fairhair from Vikings) Tore Hund, allies of the Danish king Knut etc etc. I hope so. I live not far from there and this was the battle where the "Heden" parts I am from was converted at last. Harald Hardrada, who died at the battle of Stamford Bridge in 1066 was the last Viking King and that battle is reckoned as the last battle of the Viking era.

Another link ;) Ragnarok and the reason why Vikings became Vikings and the beliefs turned the way they did : Volcanic erruptions clouding the skies

This is very interesting. Scientists believe that this catastrophy which meant the harvests and everything you lived from was bad for years due to the soot and dark clouds hiding the sunlight from nourishing the planet, made the Scandinavians turn on eachother for food and survival. Pillaging, bands of criminals etc., village vs village. The people got harder and the beliefs harder due to this. The new beliefs in Ragnarok - the end of the world, The Fenris wolf etc is believed to have originated from this event. So that made the people into Pillagers, raiders etc, who were then called VIKINGS. But not all were Vikings. Only those first seen as criminals/raiders/thieves. And then there were more and more battles between kingdoms, joining of kingdoms until the VIkings started looking abroad and start raiding outside Scandinavia. All this is shown in this article about a runestone, but also in other sources like this about he Fimbul Winter : The long harsh Fimbul winter is not a myth
 
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Just finished watching the last episode. Wonderfully done. Enjoyed the exploratory storyline so much. Wow.
 

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Bit late, but finally finished the show. **Spoilers below**

I think the show ended relatively well. I think it did well in setting out the overarching plot of the final season; the age of Viking is pretty much over, and the legacy of Ragnar is slowly washing away. From major warriors like Bjorn and Harald dying in battle; Hvitzerk renouncing the Norse gods to become Christian; Ubbe finding North America with the implication that he and his people have no desire to return to Kattegat or its old ways. And speaking of Kattegat, ending with random witch woman on the throne (name escapes me), who had absolutely no affiliation with Ragnar or his OG kin is further proof that Ragnar is gone. Perhaps the biggest proof was Floki, the most devout Viking in the show, becoming what is probably best described as an atheist hermit.

No real major gripes beyond the typical stuff -- time travel, cramming stuff in, a lot of suspended disbelief etc. Was a little disappointed we didn't get any Rollo this season. I actually quite liked the Ivar death. It was rushed, but I think that was the point. He was clearly dying of his illness/disease/'bones', but he died out on the battlefield. Hvitzerk won't tell you he's afraid, either.
 

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Bit late, but finally finished the show. **Spoilers below**

I think the show ended relatively well. I think it did well in setting out the overarching plot of the final season; the age of Viking is pretty much over, and the legacy of Ragnar is slowly washing away. From major warriors like Bjorn and Harald dying in battle; Hvitzerk renouncing the Norse gods to become Christian; Ubbe finding North America with the implication that he and his people have no desire to return to Kattegat or its old ways. And speaking of Kattegat, ending with random witch woman on the throne (name escapes me), who had absolutely no affiliation with Ragnar or his OG kin is further proof that Ragnar is gone. Perhaps the biggest proof was Floki, the most devout Viking in the show, becoming what is probably best described as an atheist hermit.
I’m not sure the bold is right is it? We see the start of the Viking age in s1 with the first raid on England. That was in 793. s5 Lagertha is in her 50s so that’s only 30 years later. S6 can’t jump forward that much more? Plus the next show is 100 years after this, which will probably take us close to the end of the Viking era by the end of the show. I think this ends as more like the start of the end of Old Norse religion (that’s a mouthful).

But you’re right about it being the end of the Ragnor era. Feels like some journey when you look back at everything that happened.
 

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Been binge-watching this for the last week. Soon finished with season 5. Have to admit between the brothers Ivar has the best screen presence. He's evil and stuff, but he's way more entertaining than the characters in the show at this point. Was surprised by the production values. It's definitely too full of filler and I think they went overboard with trying to cram as many sex scenes as possible in every episode.
 

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Finally managed to get time to binge watch the final part of the final series with the other half. Loved it. Great way to end the show.

I liked the stuff with Ubbe especially the reintroduction of Floki. That was really well done and basically moving away from their old traditions. I mean yeah, I wanted to see a blood eagle, but thats a thing of the past.

Ivar I thought was great. I agree with @Shamana, I think he had the best screen presence. He was great with his delivery.

Was disappointed we didnt get a Rollo mention, but I guess that was the point.

I thought the last part was the best stuff the show has done in a long time.
 

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Interesting people here rate Ivar. I thought he brought the show down to silly levels. Over the top and unrealistic, especially while fighting. He didn't seem particularly viking either to me.
 

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Interesting people here rate Ivar. I thought he brought the show down to silly levels. Over the top and unrealistic, especially while fighting. He didn't seem particularly viking either to me.
I agree that he brought the show some silly levels but I thought most of the characters and the show were silly. A lot of the show was full of cheese, but I thought among the brothers Ivar was one who had the brighest presence on the screen. Personally I loved seeing him go mental.
 

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I agree that he brought the show some silly levels but I thought most of the characters and the show were silly. A lot of the show was full of cheese, but I thought among the brothers Ivar was one who had the brighest presence on the screen. Personally I loved seeing him go mental.
Yeah I guess it went a bit off the rails. I liked Ubba more. He seemed a bit more realistic. Although all of them other than Ragnor and maybe Bjorn were a far cry from what I'd expect real viking warriors/leaders to look like. Last Kingdom's vikings are much closer to what I'd expect from people who would be able to survive multiple battles and garner enough respect from other big scary bastards to lead them.

Maybe I'm overthinking it. I did enjoy Vikings a lot, even the last few seasons, so that's all that matters really.
 

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Yeah I guess it went a bit off the rails. I liked Ubba more. He seemed a bit more realistic. Although all of them other than Ragnor and maybe Bjorn were a far cry from what I'd expect real viking warriors/leaders to look like. Last Kingdom's vikings are much closer to what I'd expect from people who would be able to survive multiple battles and garner enough respect from other big scary bastards to lead them.

Maybe I'm overthinking it. I did enjoy Vikings a lot, even the last few seasons, so that's all that matters really.
Personally I thought Übbe was the most likeable and I guess you could say realistic, but I always tend to find the anti-heroes or bad guys the most interesting. Ragnar me was hit and miss. As someone wrote ealier he acted as he was high all the time and it was rather predictable that he shagged every fit women in sight. Still he had some good moments. Rollo as well. I actually thought the show got somewhat better once Ragnars kids were grown up and started to grow into the story. The whole Rus storyline was a bit meh tbh.
 

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Didn't like how Ivar just let himself be killed, and then said how he was afraid - he said multiple times he wasn't afraid of death as he was happy to go to Valhalla.

I get they had to wrap it up in some way though. Similarly to Bjorn's death, It just left me feeling a bit disappointed.
 

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Didn't like how Ivar just let himself be killed, and then said how he was afraid - he said multiple times he wasn't afraid of death as he was happy to go to Valhalla.

I get they had to wrap it up in some way though. Similarly to Bjorn's death, It just left me feeling a bit disappointed.
Yeah, I don't why he couldn't just kill a few guys, since he still was an excellent fighter despite being crippled and then get shot with some arrows. I guess him confessing him being afraid was just him confessing his true feelings. Growing up in a heartless society as a cripple he would probably always be more prone to fear than the rest of the brothers. But yeah I guess the scene would have been better without that part.
 

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Yeah, I don't why he couldn't just kill a few guys, since he still was an excellent fighter despite being crippled and then get shot with some arrows. I guess him confessing him being afraid was just him confessing his true feelings. Growing up in a heartless society as a cripple he would probably always be more prone to fear than the rest of the brothers. But yeah I guess the scene would have been better without that part.
He pretty much stated multiple times he hated being alive due to his crippled body and couldn't wait to go to Valhalla to be normal, I guess in the moment of death everybody can be scared when realisation hits. It just felt a bit silly that in a battle situation he'd pretty much stood there every time egging people on to attack/kill him - then somebody finally did and ends up scared of death :lol: maybe i'm over thinking it too much but as pretty much the main character since Ragnar I thought he deserved better. I thought he'd be betrayed by somebody he loved - that was always his true weakness (especially for women)
 

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He pretty much stated multiple times he hated being alive due to his crippled body and couldn't wait to go to Valhalla to be normal, I guess in the moment of death everybody can be scared when realisation hits. It just felt a bit silly that in a battle situation he'd pretty much stood there every time egging people on to attack/kill him - then somebody finally did and ends up scared of death :lol: maybe i'm over thinking it too much but as pretty much the main character since Ragnar I thought he deserved better. I thought he'd be betrayed by somebody he loved - that was always his true weakness (especially for women)
I agree
 

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He pretty much stated multiple times he hated being alive due to his crippled body and couldn't wait to go to Valhalla to be normal, I guess in the moment of death everybody can be scared when realisation hits. It just felt a bit silly that in a battle situation he'd pretty much stood there every time egging people on to attack/kill him - then somebody finally did and ends up scared of death :lol: maybe i'm over thinking it too much but as pretty much the main character since Ragnar I thought he deserved better. I thought he'd be betrayed by somebody he loved - that was always his true weakness (especially for women)
Think this was it. He wanted to go out as a badass, but couldnt and was scared when it eventually happened. For all his big talk, when it happened, he couldnt handle it.
 

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Finally got around to watching the last episodes. After the first one I was worried that the show was going to go nowhere but it surprised me. It was bloody fantastic and the best series of the show since the Ragnar days, although I could've done without 50% of it being in slow motion.

Hvitserk, though. For someone who doesn't think much of himself he seems to be the most brutal and gifted fighter out of all Ragnar's children. Guy just goes into full on Berserker mode when the time is right.