Viktor Gyökeres | Arsenal Player

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He just got an assist. Has anyone ever watched goltv? the commentator refuses to call them benfica or sporting, and instead calls them the lions and the eagles... im also pretty sure he keeps calling Gyokeres the night king?
 
Gyokeres movement is so good.

Go have a look at the penalty that was denied for sporting on otamendi, Portugal uses VAR and i can honestly say its one of the worst decisions ive seen all season
 
Helder-Carvalho said:
Benfica TV controls the broadcast so expect a very home team oriented angles, referee is known to be for Benfica too
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Yup. Saw some crazy stats about this ref favouring Benfica over Sporting so I can’t say I’m surprised.
 
He has been anonymous for most of this game, 1-1 now so lets see if he can handle the pressure
 
He has been very very poor this second half. If hojlund played like this v liverpool, our fans would absolutely slaughter him
 
Sporting didn’t attack much on the second half and Gyokeres suffered for it but he was subpar on the second half as well. Still did the assist.

Hjulmand is foul machine ahah but is a great player.
 
EtH said:
Not doing anything to dispel the flat track bully reputation with that performance then I take it.
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He was up against 37 year old otamendi for a lot of the game, and he really didnt offer much at all.
 
FriedClams said:
He was up against 37 year old otamendi for a lot of the game, and he really didnt offer much at all.
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Might have to change my vote to David in the poll then. But seriously I’m not sure there’s a striker worth signing for big money this summer. Grim considering how many clubs will be in the market.
 
Please no. I am so afraid that we will get him for big money and he’ll flop. There are so many risks with him… if we cannot get Osimhen then by no means s should we go with a big name signing to the CF position
 
EtH said:
Might have to change my vote to David in the poll then. But seriously I’m not sure there’s a striker worth signing for big money this summer. Grim considering how many clubs will be in the market.
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Should be forever kicking ourselves for not signing Isak. I’d need to do a check on who we signed instead of him the window he moved.

I’m not really sure that’s hindsight talking either as I’ve always remembered him being pretty highly rated.
 
Swedish_Plumber said:
Should be forever kicking ourselves for not signing Isak. I’d need to do a check on who we signed instead of him the window he moved.

I’m not really sure that’s hindsight talking either as I’ve always remembered him being pretty highly rated.
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Nah, Isak was promising, but he wasn't the guaranteed slam dunk people talk about now with hindsight.

In his last season before moving to Newcastle, he managed only 10 goals in all comps, which is the same as Hojlund for us this season - and he was on pens, Hojlund isn't. He's scored at a better rate in every season for Newcastle than he ever did even in his best season in La Liga.
 
V.O. said:
Nah, Isak was promising, but he wasn't the guaranteed slam dunk people talk about now with hindsight.

In his last season before moving to Newcastle, he managed only 10 goals in all comps, which is the same as Hojlund for us this season - and he was on pens, Hojlund isn't. He's scored at a better rate in every season for Newcastle than he ever did even in his best season in La Liga.
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Yeah as I recall the price tag raised some eyebrows at the time. It’s one of those signings where they just trusted that the talent would eventually show through and obviously it did. He was very highly rated for a reason and in retrospect it was a good bet considering how thin the CF market was then and still is now.
 
EtH said:
Might have to change my vote to David in the poll then. But seriously I’m not sure there’s a striker worth signing for big money this summer. Grim considering how many clubs will be in the market.
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Why no one has snapped him up I don't know
 
EtH said:
Yeah as I recall the price tag raised some eyebrows at the time. It’s one of those signings where they just trusted that the talent would eventually show through and obviously it did. He was very highly rated for a reason and in retrospect it was a good bet considering how thin the CF market was then and still is now.
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They looked at underlying stats via the data, if a young, promising striker is getting into decent shooting positions often but not converting then the chances are that as he develops he’ll start to convert more. Thats why data is important and something we’ve been under utilising, hopefully until now.
 
V.O. said:
Nah, Isak was promising, but he wasn't the guaranteed slam dunk people talk about now with hindsight.

In his last season before moving to Newcastle, he managed only 10 goals in all comps, which is the same as Hojlund for us this season - and he was on pens, Hojlund isn't. He's scored at a better rate in every season for Newcastle than he ever did even in his best season in La Liga.
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I watched him play for Sociedad and immediately wanted him as the potential was obvious, at least to me. I knew Newcastle had done well to land him.
 
Maureen-yo said:
They looked at underlying stats via the data, if a young, promising striker is getting into decent shooting positions often but not converting then the chances are that as he develops he’ll start to convert more. Thats why data is important and something we’ve been under utilising, hopefully until now.
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Bore off it’s not as if no one had ever heard of Isak.
 
V.O. said:
Nah, Isak was promising, but he wasn't the guaranteed slam dunk people talk about now with hindsight.

In his last season before moving to Newcastle, he managed only 10 goals in all comps, which is the same as Hojlund for us this season - and he was on pens, Hojlund isn't. He's scored at a better rate in every season for Newcastle than he ever did even in his best season in La Liga.
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Nah there was plenty of us when he signed for Newcastle confident he'd do very well. They got a bargain. He just had all the tools to be a PL success.
 
awop said:
I'd be shocked if Ekitike manage to get anything above West Ham or Everton. If he does, his agent is a genius.
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You don't rate him? For me, he is the most stylistically similar to Isak. However, I think there's a bigger question mark that he can hit the levels that Isak has been able to hit than there was over Isak when he joined.

Think he would need to fill out that frame of his and work on becoming more physical, but I think he's got good talent.

The problem is that many clubs need strikers, and there's not many strikers to go around, so teams are going to have take gambles.

There's info coming out that Arsenal are a bit torn over what to do. Berta since his arrival has pivoted to Gyokeres, however all Arsenals ground work was done on Sesko. He seems to show up really well in many clubs data teams that project he's got the potential to be elite in the next couple of years, hence why he's always been spoke about as highly coveted.
 
Gyorkeres has to be the priority. He is going to be extremely successful in the PL and I fear it will be for Arsenal. He’s going to be up there year after year. I like Isaac but I rate him just as highly.
 
Steve 007 said:
Gyorkeres has to be the priority. He is going to be extremely successful in the PL and I fear it will be for Arsenal. He’s going to be up there year after year. I like Isaac but I rate him just as highly.
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I genuinely don't believe he will be. Nothing i watched in the biggest match of his season made me think this was the guy.
 
Steve 007 said:
Gyorkeres has to be the priority. He is going to be extremely successful in the PL and I fear it will be for Arsenal. He’s going to be up there year after year. I like Isaac but I rate him just as highly.
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I personally prefer Sesko over Gyorkeres simply because of current Arsenal style of play.
 
Amorim's project is on thin ice, pretty much have to win the Europa and hit the ground running next season otherwise he's sacked. I doubt Amorim has that much sway for Gyokeres, he only played there just over a season and he's carried on scoring without Amorim and our manager hasn't managed to progress us in 6 months.

I can only see him coming to United if for some reason no-one else is in for him that strongly and we can up his wages and sell him on a project with or without Amorim. It's highly unlikely we get CL next season so even if we do win Europa it'll be a one off in the CL. Club like Arsenal seem to be set to get top 3 for a few seasons.
 
EtH said:
He was a mediocre player at Coventry FFS. Did you actually read my post or are you just being thick ?
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What is this energy about? You need to calm yourself, I responded to a point you literally made about "so many" flops from the Portuguese league, which I pointed out is a lazy cliché thrown out there all the time but goon with your bad self!

I also don't think Gyokeres could be called mediocre at Coventry also, with a pretty strong scoring record and obviously doing enough to attract Sporting.
 
Apokalips said:
What is this energy about? You need to calm yourself, I responded to a point you literally made about "so many" flops from the Portuguese league, which I pointed out is a lazy cliché thrown out there all the time but goon with your bad self!

I also don't think Gyokeres could be called mediocre at Coventry also, with a pretty strong scoring record and obviously doing enough to attract Sporting.
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Well admittedly that response was a bit short. But I did say I would rather sign Gyökeres than everyone’s favorite “safe” and “Prem proven “ signing Cunha this summer in the post you quoted, amongst other things. The Portuguese league export comment is valid though and was made in passing to present risk factor. Not as if I was harping on it. So it seemed like a straw man argument from you. But you probably just caught me in a huff.

As for Gyökeres at Coventry he was decent but nothing spectacular. Decent but nothing spectacular would be amazing for us at CF right now though. And he could well do better than that in the PL. But I seriously doubt he will be signing for us.
 
Players from the big leagues are risks too.
Di Maria didn’t work, Pogba same, all the players you got from Real Madrid didn’t make you world beaters, all the players from the Italian league the same, and your best player came from the Portuguese league.
 
Deco10Legend said:
Players from the big leagues are risks too.
Di Maria didn’t work, Pogba same, all the players you got from Real Madrid didn’t make you world beaters, all the players from the Italian league the same, and your best player came from the Portuguese league.
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Good point. The only top quality player we've bought in the last decade came from the Portuguese league. We've got quality scouts.
 
EtH said:
Well admittedly that response was a bit short. But I did say I would rather sign Gyökeres than everyone’s favorite “safe” and “Prem proven “ signing Cunha this summer in the post you quoted, amongst other things. The Portuguese league export comment is valid though and was made in passing to present risk factor. Not as if I was harping on it. So it seemed like a straw man argument from you. But you probably just caught me in a huff.

As for Gyökeres at Coventry he was decent but nothing spectacular. Decent but nothing spectacular would be amazing for us at CF right now though. And he could well do better than that in the PL. But I seriously doubt he will be signing for us.
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Fair enough, I was only really referring to the Portuguese league bit because I see it too many times used lazily to dismiss players and big up the PL and "Prem proven" players, so more just my response to that sort of thing thrown around by many people without thought, not specifically aimed at you and your thoughts.

I am not 100% sold on Gyokeres myself, because I do agree it is a risk whether he has truly stepped into his prime which would transfer over here, or whether he has just found his place. We can all see the exact discussions we will have if he comes and flops and they are very valid concerns.

This is the issue that we have put ourselves in with our poor decision making in spending such vast sums on an unproven striker. That coupled with a lack of funds means we are now desperate to make sure the signing we make is perfect, so there is a danger of paralysis by analysis. If we make another huge money signing that just flops we are screwed but hopefully we sign 3 players of sufficient quality that can all add goals and reduce the risk.
 
Our only hope is if Arsenal prefer someone else. One thing that's not being mentioned is the wages. I think it will shock people to see the wages Arsenal now offer, whereas, we have decided now we're going to offer less. You want top players while not competing for over a decade, you need to offer top wages and Ratcliffe made it clear we're not doing that any more.
 
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