croadyman
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Can't say I blame him, just look at the messPretty clear he doesn't want to come here. He's in his prime.

Can't say I blame him, just look at the messPretty clear he doesn't want to come here. He's in his prime.
Pretty clear he doesn't want to come here. He's in his prime.
I don't think he will get shocking wages. He's not getting more than Saka, Odegaard and co. 140k - 160k would triple his wages and be a fair offer.Our only hope is if Arsenal prefer someone else. One thing that's not being mentioned is the wages. I think it will shock people to see the wages Arsenal now offer, whereas, we have decided now we're going to offer less. You want top players while not competing for over a decade, you need to offer top wages and Ratcliffe made it clear we're not doing that any more.
Wait so you’re telling me that Arsenal wont offer 10x of his current salary? Why dont you behave like a big club that offered 200k to a 20k pw player in Antony?I don't think he will get shocking wages. He's not getting more than Saka, Odegaard and co. 140k - 160k would triple his wages and be a fair offer.
Absolutely, very naive to think otherwise. His agent is doing a really poor job if he gets him anything under 200k a week.There is zero chance Gyokeres, Sesko, or anyone get less than 200k/week as leading striker in a top 4 EPL club.
We won't sign him this summer, it's pretty clear. INEOS main target is Liam Delap, and Gyokeres wants to play for a better club than Utd. Arsenal would be a perfect destination for him. INEOS doesn't want to splash a lot of money and their main targets are younger players with lower wages. Gyokeres would be my dream signing but it's pretty clear that we won't sign him this summer. We are going to continue to sign average and unproven players and that's the sad reality of our club.Gyökeres is the perfect option.
If we win the Europa League he wouldn’t have any reason not to come here.
Manchester United can offer the same or even superior salary than Arsenal does.
The failure of Man Utd is that they spent badly their money overpaying for avrage players (for exemple: Zirkzee, Onana, Hojlund, Sancho, Wan-Bissaka etc.) and giving away good players at low cost (McTominay).
Gyökeres has the perfect qualities for Manchester United, and it’s better to spend a little more money on him than overpaying for some average players.
He will probably have joined Arsenal before we know whether it's Champions League or nothing next seasonGyökeres is the perfect option.
If we win the Europa League he wouldn’t have any reason not to come here.
Manchester United can offer the same or even superior salary than Arsenal does.
The failure of Man Utd is that they spent badly their money overpaying for avrage players (for exemple: Zirkzee, Onana, Hojlund, Sancho, Wan-Bissaka etc.) and giving away good players at low cost (McTominay).
Gyökeres has the perfect qualities for Manchester United, and it’s better to spend a little more money on him than overpaying for some average players.
He will probably have joined Arsenal before we know whether it's Champions League or nothing next season

The minute Ornstein said Utd think he's going elsewhere a few months ago I thought it was over. He then specifically talked up Berta wanting him for Arsenal recently which I think is very telling. Listen nothing would make me happier than to be proved wrong but don't see it happening.You think he'll be signed by Arsenal in the next week? Not happening. There's negativity based on nothing and there's this mate![]()
Nope. We need them to sign Rashford.Barcelona need to pull a lever and sign this guy.
Pretty clear based on?Pretty clear he doesn't want to come here. He's in his prime.
Previous report from Ornstein saying Utd feel he will go elsewhere in the summerPretty clear based on?
Yeah I think he sees too much uncertainty here in terms of being able to compete next season which I understandHe'd be a fool to sign here before any other business has been made official. Only chance I can see is if we get Cunha and a couple of other quality additions, which would make it more likely that he has enough to work with up front. Even then there is a lot more certainty in other clubs.
Objectively he would be crazy to choose us over Arsenal. A team 2nd in league and SF of CL, who create plenty of chances and desperate for a goal scorer. None of us know if Amorim will be here by Xmas, I reckon its 50:50 at best.Yeah I think he sees too much uncertainty here in terms of being able to compete next season which I understand
We'd, or any other club would also be a fool to sign him. Think he and the Portuguese league knows he needs to avoid a Premier League club for the reputation of their league that their best player will flop in EnglandHe'd be a fool to sign here before any other business has been made official. Only chance I can see is if we get Cunha and a couple of other quality additions, which would make it more likely that he has enough to work with up front. Even then there is a lot more certainty in other clubs.
Coping mechanism for him going to Arsenal thereWe'd, or any other club would also be a fool to sign him. Think he and the Portuguese league knows he needs to avoid a Premier League club for the reputation of their league that their best player will flop in England
Yeah, I’m checking in on that one in about 6 months or so.Coping mechanism for him going to Arsenal there
Annoying they don't need more than just a striker, maybe then we might have had a chance of signing himYeah, I’m checking in on that one in about 6 months or so.
It really isn't. I wouldn't say the same about Isak and Ekitike. Maybe Sesko who I don't rate particularly highly but certainly Gyokeres who I think is the most overrated striker in the world.Coping mechanism for him going to Arsenal there
Arsenal is not good at transition and I just don't see how Gyokeres fits in. Unless Arteta dramatically changes his style of play Sesko with his strength, height and skill, fits better as a target man against teams play with low block.It really isn't. I wouldn't say the same about Isak and Ekitike. Maybe Sesko who I don't rate particularly highly but certainly Gyokeres who I think is the most overrated striker in the world.
Annoying they don't need more than just a striker, maybe then we might have had a chance of signing him
Taremi was not at his prime, his last season for Porto was awful.I would be cautious about saying prime while in the Portugal league. Many strikers in their prime, once they moved from Portugal to a better league, are nowhere near good enough. Happened with Darwin, happened with Taremi at Inter. What's really scary is that they went into well-drilled teams, and still can not find their way, while they were tearing it apart over there. Imagine bringing Gyokeres last year, when we were all over the place.
I meant in terms of last piece of jigsaw, so who would you prefer out of him or Sesko given a choiceWe do mate. We'll probably sign 4 or 5 players this summer, we need to with the players that will leave.
We need to sign 2 strikers, a number 10, a midfielder, a wingback and a goalkeeper.Gyökeres is the perfect option.
If we win the Europa League he wouldn’t have any reason not to come here.
Manchester United can offer the same or even superior salary than Arsenal does.
The failure of Man Utd is that they spent badly their money overpaying for avrage players (for exemple: Zirkzee, Onana, Hojlund, Sancho, Wan-Bissaka etc.) and giving away good players at low cost (McTominay).
Gyökeres has the perfect qualities for Manchester United, and it’s better to spend a little more money on him than overpaying for some average players.
Utd aren't going to buy Gyokeres. We can't afford it with all the other parts of the team that need fixing. It's why Delap is our no1 target this summer for striker. Fixed fee at £30mil. Gives us head room to buy players for other positions.Gyökeres is the perfect option.
If we win the Europa League he wouldn’t have any reason not to come here.
Manchester United can offer the same or even superior salary than Arsenal does.
The failure of Man Utd is that they spent badly their money overpaying for avrage players (for exemple: Zirkzee, Onana, Hojlund, Sancho, Wan-Bissaka etc.) and giving away good players at low cost (McTominay).
Gyökeres has the perfect qualities for Manchester United, and it’s better to spend a little more money on him than overpaying for some average players.
I meant in terms of last piece of jigsaw, so who would you prefer out of him or Sesko given a choice
If we don't buy Semenyo/Mbeumo we could certainly afford Gyokeres?Utd aren't going to buy Gyokeres. We can't afford it with all the other parts of the team that need fixing. It's why Delap is our no1 target this summer for striker. Fixed fee at £30mil. Gives us head room to buy players for other positions.
We could do with Ekitike still being on the market next summer as might have a better chance thenIt really isn't. I wouldn't say the same about Isak and Ekitike. Maybe Sesko who I don't rate particularly highly but certainly Gyokeres who I think is the most overrated striker in the world.
What is it within his game that makes you say he will fail should he join a PL team?We'd, or any other club would also be a fool to sign him. Think he and the Portuguese league knows he needs to avoid a Premier League club for the reputation of their league that their best player will flop in England
The media here are saying the same, Berta at Arsenal is a fan and wants to move for him and supposedly they are Gyokeres first choice. I can see why he would want to go there on the surface but I do think their window may actually be closing even with the addition of a goalscorer.If he goes to a dominant team he will score.
So probably a better option to Arsenal than United.
Portuguese press are saying he is Arsenal bound, but that’s not worth much tbf.