I’ve just seen a video of Hojlund’s last 80 shots. It was a bit of a weird watch because the first 20 or so he was playing for some Danish town u11 side.
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Nik (@Rood), Jamie (@Vault Dweller) and Ed (@That'sHernandez) give their end of season awards out! They celebrate the best players, goals and moments of the season (there were some, honestly) and also give out awards for the worst and most disappointing players/moments of the season.
They then discuss all the latest transfer rumours and get into the potential ins and outs this summer at Old Trafford.
I’ve just seen a video of Hojlund’s last 80 shots. It was a bit of a weird watch because the first 20 or so he was playing for some Danish town u11 side.
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Fair. I'm just not wanting anyone to feel depressed because they think he's going to completely transform our attack. I don't think he's the Swedish Nunez or anything like that but if he skies his first shot and suddenly everyone is calling him that then I won't come in the say I told you so. I'll be too busy depressingly eating tubs of lard.
I agree, there is some poor efforts there, some great ones too.
One thing is for sure, he is confident and he gets himself into great positions. Our current options dont even get into positions where they can score.
You are right that all transfers have risk.
However, this one does present more of a risk than Cunha and Mbuemo I believe.
Age, the league he’s coming from, potentially very big wages are all a concern.
That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t buy him, but it does mean we have to ensure we can exit quickly. As if we get stuck with a very expensive striker who cannot cut it, we are in trouble given our situation. We have to do a lot of diligence, and I really hope the club is doing so.
An analysis recently showed only 50% of transfers (not youth) have been a success.
I get your point, but a lot of shots are blocked and there's 22 goals out of that 80 shots. I think I would take that from Hojland from 80 games!!
some people don't want to hear this, but Bruno not taking the Saudi offer has made this summer window a lot harder. Those 100m would have been a massive help to plug a couple of holes ... now we have a questionable fit in midfield and need to somehow find takers for our deadwood to fund incomings. Not ideal.
The issue with Hojlund is not overly what he does when he gets a shot away. The issue is the lack of positional awareness to deliver a high enough shot volume. 2 shots a game with 20% conversion translates to a disappointing return.
Comparing this to some of the shooting attempts we have seen from our players last 2 years, and you question if the guy making this clip forgot what he was supposed to do and still made a normal highlight clip. Yes he skies a few attempts here and there but he gets himself into good positions quite a lot and absolutely hammers them past the keeper now and then. Has an old school bastard feel to him, like a Mark Hughes, he was not afraid to hammer it.
Looks really good in my eyes
Also it probably doesn’t help that he’s got a terrible first touch, a bad eye for a pass and very poor at holding up the ball.
no you wouldn't
Can’t be more than a 30 second video.
Ambitious shot selection, execution is not always there but i like that he backs himself.
Agree with your point around whether he's the tip of the spear we are looking for. Does seem to do better in transition or when driving at the defence. If we get him and Mbeumo, we will be super direct and alot more efficient but I don't see how we have the guile and control upfront to unlock low block defences.
I personally prefer to rate players from other leagues according to what their rival fans say. Bruno was universally accepted even by Porto and Benfica fans as the best player in the league, and he did fine for us. You can go back to the Bruno thread and find the exact same comments there that you can find here. “If he is so good why no one is signing him?“, “he is just stat-padding in a farmer's league“, “if he is any good City or Liverpool would have signed him“, “he only looks good because he is the penalty taker“. Exact same things were said back then.
Benfica and Porto fans both hate but completely respect and accept that Gyokeres is the best player in the league. That's all I really need to know on whether he is a good player or not. And NO, Arsenal is not the pinnacle for player scouting, especially not for strikers. When was the last time Arsenal scouted a world class striker? RVP 20 years ago?
All these stats merchant will always be able to find some stupid stats to discredit every single player in the world anyway. Even if we were to sign prime Messi, the stats merchant will bring out the “minutes % spent walking on the pitch“, “headers won %“, “number of times muscled off the ball“ and say that he is not good enough for the physicality of PL.
Benfica and Porto fans both hate but completely respect and accept that Gyokeres is the best player in the league. That's all I really need to know on whether he is a good player or not. And NO, Arsenal is not the pinnacle for player scouting, especially not for strikers. When was the last time Arsenal scouted a world class striker? RVP 20 years ago?
All these stats merchant will always be able to find some stupid stats to discredit every single player in the world anyway. Even if we were to sign prime Messi, the stats merchant will bring out the “minutes % spent walking on the pitch“, “headers won %“, “number of times muscled off the ball“ and say that he is not good enough for the physicality of PL.
Thing is his conversion rate is pretty good. It's getting/making the chances he sucks at.
To see his last 80 chances how far back would you need to go?
Has anyone who’s familiar with the Portuguese league done any “analysis” on how Hojlund might have performed in the Sporting team over the last 2 years? I know he shows bursts of pace and occasional finishing, but would he look good given his poor movement, control and general reading of the game?
Amen
I guess we'll only know the true answer to that come next season, at which time we'll see to what extent the squad has been improved and where Bruno fits into it and how well following any new acquisitions.
I’ve uploaded it to his performance threadThing is his conversion rate is pretty good. It's getting/making the chances he sucks at.
To see his last 80 chances how far back would you need to go?
maybe not a better player, pound for pound. But a better fit for the double pivot in the 3-4-2-1 system? That's a completely different question. Bruno remains a less than ideal fit there.
Hopefully we get this through. Dream window if that’s the case. Just a keeper left.
Yeh, we can’t wait for him to feck off to somewhere else.
Sporting will be shit without him.
and a CM
and a WB
Good post
I don't think any player is elite unless its Haaland or that level of player.
This was taken from a Chelsea post for whoscored, the best #9 currently is who? Isak? he's not attainable.
https://www.premierleague.com/news/4244358
Isak vs Haaland with blocked shots included (20.7% vs 26.6%)
Gyokeres conversion wise is on the same level.
I don't think any player is elite unless its Haaland or that level of player.
This was taken from a Chelsea post for whoscored, the best #9 currently is who? Isak? he's not attainable.
https://www.premierleague.com/news/4244358
Isak vs Haaland with blocked shots included (20.7% vs 26.6%)
Gyokeres conversion wise is on the same level.
Feck me, does he look lige RvP there.
That’s it, I’m 100% sold
I’m sure Hojlund would score quite a few, it easier to score, I could see him score maybe around 15 goals if in form playing for one of the big three because he would be playing for a dominant team that creates a lot of chances.
Way worst players have done that but the thing is Gyokeres is way above that level, he scored 39 goals and 8 assists and the year before 29-10, that’s just in the league, if you add the champions league and cups then it’s even higher numbers.
And it’s not just the goals, his power and pace creates a lot of chances and he assists quite a bit. Sure he scores a lot of penalties but a lot of those are won by him anyway.
Of course in the premier league he won’t score as much, I don’t know, maybe half of what he is scoring.
Disagree with pretty much everything. Bruno is better deeper. Midfield two or three doesn't matter.
Not seen enough of either Wharton or Baleba, doubt they are actually better than Fernandes in midfield. I really rate Jashari at Brugge, Palacios at Leverkusen, thought Reijnders was great at Milan, and liked Stiller season before last (never watched much Stuttgart this past season). Still, wouldn't particularly say any were clearly better than what Bruno has shown in a deeper midfield position this past season.
Well, maybe Reijnders...
There's loads of video analysis on how bad a Casemiro and Fernandes double pivot is. Take your pick on YouTube.
Has he had 80 shots in senior football?
Why are you doing this to yourself?
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Moved the Bruno posts to one of the Bruno threads in the United forum.
Let's keep this thread on track with Gyokeres news only. Please take the Bruno and Hojlund chat to the appropriate threads.
Let's keep this thread on track with Gyokeres news only. Please take the Bruno and Hojlund chat to the appropriate threads.
Do air shots count?
I don't think any player is elite unless its Haaland or that level of player.
This was taken from a Chelsea post for whoscored, the best #9 currently is who? Isak? he's not attainable.
https://www.premierleague.com/news/4244358
Isak vs Haaland with blocked shots included (20.7% vs 26.6%)
Gyokeres conversion wise is on the same level.
Yeah the stats almost sold it for me but that RvP face tipped me over the Muppet edge.
Yeah these loans don't help our transfer fund
The club needs to hurry up if they want to sign him as he wont wait around forever and with his price being only £59m there will be a few other clubs interested this summer
We can get all the paperwork in place, agree with the club and pay after sales I'm sure.
Such as agree to pay after the PSR deadline or when the next window opens
We should prioritize this signing over Mbuemo. We have many options for 10 but not a single decent striker at the club.