Viktor Gyökeres

I reckon its simply to have him and mbeumo in July for the new accounting year

If that's the case, we'd be in a similar situation as Arsenal with Zubimendi. Lots of noise, fee agreement rumors but no confirmation.

The simplest explanation is the most likely one - we need sales before signing a striker and we are focusing on Mbeumo and Cunha to start with and the rest depends on sales. We're getting interest for Antony, Hojlund, Garnacho etc. so unless we're sure that these players are going to move, we're not going to bring in reinforcements (GK, CM, ST etc.)
 
If that's the case, we'd be in a similar situation as Arsenal with Zubimendi. Lots of noise, fee agreement rumors but no confirmation.

The simplest explanation is the most likely one - we need sales before signing a striker and we are focusing on Mbeumo and Cunha to start with and the rest depends on sales. We're getting interest for Antony, Hojlund, Garnacho etc. so unless we're sure that these players are going to move, we're not going to bring in reinforcements (GK, CM, ST etc.)
I agree. Mbuemo and Cunha are being signed with our transfer budget. Anything els will be done after sales. I can see gyokeres being after Mbuemo once we’ve sold a few players. The worry is how long does gyokeres wait for us… if we can’t sell players or make enough money to sign him then he’s waited for no reason and possibly turned down other teams for us.
 
Just watched the latest Stretford Paddock video and Laurie Whitwell does my head in and comes across as quite thick honestly.

Suggesting that maybe Hojlund could turn it around. How is this guy is a paid journalist.

Then the other two idiots on there saying that Gyokeres would be a ‘bit of an upgrade’ on Hojlund. Are you fecking kidding me? :lol:
 
I would also have preferred that the club prioritise a striker (and a goalkeeper and a midfielder) ahead of a second #10 - I suppose if the deal for Delap had come off, United would have their new #9, nice and early in the window, and might not have been actively pursuing Mbeumo at this stage (that would probably have seen Mbeumo join Newcastle, though). Getting Delap would also have ruled out any move for Gyokeres later in the window, something which appears still to be open, if we can make the requisite sales. Those desperate for Gyokeres to join are probably camped out in the wrong thread, though - there won't be any news regarding Gyokeres and United until we first have had news of sales being close/agreed for (probably at least three of) Rashford/Antony/Garnacho/Sancho.
I think we ok going about about our business the way we are. Goals was always going to be a priority. As long as everyone is ready for preseason it’s all good. One thing about RA tactics it’s needs time to implement
 
Just watched the latest Stretford Paddock video and Laurie Whitwell does my head in and comes across as quite thick honestly.

Suggesting that maybe Hojlund could turn it around. How is this guy is a paid journalist.

Then the other two idiots on there saying that Gyokeres would be a ‘bit of an upgrade’ on Hojlund. Are you fecking kidding me? :lol:
They will always kiss up on that channel particularly Joe
 
Just watched the latest Stretford Paddock video and Laurie Whitwell does my head in and comes across as quite thick honestly.

Suggesting that maybe Hojlund could turn it around. How is this guy is a paid journalist.

Then the other two idiots on there saying that Gyokeres would be a ‘bit of an upgrade’ on Hojlund. Are you fecking kidding me? :lol:
Stopped watching that channel years ago, that Joe is hard to watch.
 
I’d take Osimhen in a heartbeat over Gykores he’s a beast and he’ll dominate pL defenders in the air and on the ground.
Never gonna happen for same reason as outlined many times before online and on this CAF too
 
Just watched the latest Stretford Paddock video and Laurie Whitwell does my head in and comes across as quite thick honestly.

Suggesting that maybe Hojlund could turn it around. How is this guy is a paid journalist.

Then the other two idiots on there saying that Gyokeres would be a ‘bit of an upgrade’ on Hojlund. Are you fecking kidding me? :lol:
Laurie is just an eternal optimist. Bless him.
 
I’d take Osimhen in a heartbeat over Gykores he’s a beast and he’ll dominate pL defenders in the air and on the ground.

Osimhen went through a patch from November to February where he scored 1 goal from open play in 11 games. He scored 5 penalties and 1 open play goal in 11 games.

You really think he will dominate the PL when he could barely even score in the Turkish league for an 11 game period.

He scored 1 goal in 4 games against Fenerbahce and Besiktas, look at the teams he scored against, they are far worse than the teams Gyokeres scored against. Gyokeres scored more goals in a better league.
 
Brilliant thread.

The fact people think he can’t deal with the intensity or the physical of the premier league is absolutely incredible to me. It’s probably his greatest strength.

 
Stopped watching that channel years ago, that Joe is hard to watch.
I quite like him as he always tries to stay positive. I won't watch their content in the aftermath of a painful defeat (barely seen any of their videos post-Europa final) but whenever I fancy some feel-good United content in this doom-and-gloom period then it's a pleasant change listening to him and Jay, even if they are a little bit deluded.
 
Just an opinion. Apparently there's no interest from other clubs in Gyökeres. Arsenal tries to sign Sesko since January, Liverpool needs a striker but they don't speak about him and so on. We're the only club which want to sign him. Is that a coincidence? I've read an interesting interview with Ármin Pécsi, the 20 years old hungarian goalkeeper who's been signed by Liverpool to replace Caoimhín Kelleher. He told to the news that after he signed his contract he'd been shown his scout report by the Liverpool scouts and he was totally shocked to see that the scouts analyzed him to the last bit. They knew everything about him, calculated his trajectory, possible future, everything. What if the same happpened to Gyökeres? After scouting him (I'm 100% sure they did) these clubs think that at the age of 27, after all the analysis they thought it's not worth signing him? That's why Arsenal try to chase the 22 year old Sesko instead? Even I think that a 27 years old from a portuguese league won't change the world in red, but i know a club which finished in 15th and without european football cannot sign the best.
 
Just an opinion. Apparently there's no interest from other clubs in Gyökeres. Arsenal tries to sign Sesko since January, Liverpool needs a striker but they don't speak about him and so on. We're the only club which want to sign him. Is that a coincidence? I've read an interesting interview with Ármin Pécsi, the 20 years old hungarian goalkeeper who's been signed by Liverpool to replace Caoimhín Kelleher. He told to the news that after he signed his contract he'd been shown his scout report by the Liverpool scouts and he was totally shocked to see that the scouts analyzed him to the last bit. They knew everything about him, calculated his trajectory, possible future, everything. What if the same happpened to Gyökeres? After scouting him (I'm 100% sure they did) these clubs think that at the age of 27, after all the analysis they thought it's not worth signing him? That's why Arsenal try to chase the 22 year old Sesko instead? Even I think that a 27 years old from a portuguese league won't change the world in red, but i know a club which finished in 15th and without european football cannot sign the best.

Liverpool have proven they can be successful without an out and out striker, which is why they don't seem to be prioritizing buying one. Same thing with PSG, who actually benefited from losing Mbappe. United and Arsenal therefore, seem to be the only two big clubs in the market this summer.
 
Just an opinion. Apparently there's no interest from other clubs in Gyökeres. Arsenal tries to sign Sesko since January, Liverpool needs a striker but they don't speak about him and so on. We're the only club which want to sign him. Is that a coincidence? I've read an interesting interview with Ármin Pécsi, the 20 years old hungarian goalkeeper who's been signed by Liverpool to replace Caoimhín Kelleher. He told to the news that after he signed his contract he'd been shown his scout report by the Liverpool scouts and he was totally shocked to see that the scouts analyzed him to the last bit. They knew everything about him, calculated his trajectory, possible future, everything. What if the same happpened to Gyökeres? After scouting him (I'm 100% sure they did) these clubs think that at the age of 27, after all the analysis they thought it's not worth signing him? That's why Arsenal try to chase the 22 year old Sesko instead? Even I think that a 27 years old from a portuguese league won't change the world in red, but i know a club which finished in 15th and without european football cannot sign the best.
Well, it might have happened what you imagine, and it might not. And a lot of other stuff may have happened as well. We won’t know either way. But what will it tell us anyway? A) We need to become better at scouting and analysis. We (Rats, Berrada, Wilcox, Vivell) are probably already aware of this and working on it. B) Try to buy the players Arsenal and Liverpool want enough to outbid us? So we’ll not get them, then. C) In the end we’ll just have to accept that we pick players Arsenal and Liverpool pass over, until we have become better at scouting and improved our football enough to pull said players ahead if them. If we even need the same profile of players.

It’s a pretty futile line of rumination.
 
Liverpool have proven they can be successful without an out and out striker, which is why they don't seem to be prioritizing buying one. Same thing with PSG, who actually benefited from losing Mbappe. United and Arsenal therefore, seem to be the only two big clubs in the market this summer.
There are reports that Liverpool will provide competition to Chelsea for Etkike. I'd presume once Wirtz is done and Darwin Nunez is sold. Seeing as Isak is unobtainable for Liverpool, Etkike isn't a bad alternative.
 
Just an opinion. Apparently there's no interest from other clubs in Gyökeres. Arsenal tries to sign Sesko since January, Liverpool needs a striker but they don't speak about him and so on. We're the only club which want to sign him. Is that a coincidence? I've read an interesting interview with Ármin Pécsi, the 20 years old hungarian goalkeeper who's been signed by Liverpool to replace Caoimhín Kelleher. He told to the news that after he signed his contract he'd been shown his scout report by the Liverpool scouts and he was totally shocked to see that the scouts analyzed him to the last bit. They knew everything about him, calculated his trajectory, possible future, everything. What if the same happpened to Gyökeres? After scouting him (I'm 100% sure they did) these clubs think that at the age of 27, after all the analysis they thought it's not worth signing him? That's why Arsenal try to chase the 22 year old Sesko instead? Even I think that a 27 years old from a portuguese league won't change the world in red, but i know a club which finished in 15th and without european football cannot sign the best.
Everyone in the football world knew Mbappe was going to Madrid - so no one else tried to sign him. Everyone in the football world knows he's going to United - so no ones trying to sign him.
 
Well, it might have happened what you imagine, and it might not. And a lot of other stuff may have happened as well. We won’t know either way. But what will it tell us anyway? A) We need to become better at scouting and analysis. We (Rats, Berrada, Wilcox, Vivell) are probably already aware of this and working on it. B) Try to buy the players Arsenal and Liverpool want enough to outbid us? So we’ll not get them, then. C) In the end we’ll just have to accept that we pick players Arsenal and Liverpool pass over, until we have become better at scouting and improved our football enough to pull said players ahead if them. If we even need the same profile of players.

It’s a pretty futile line of rumination.
Just a little reminder. Do you remember when Rangnick got pissed off with the club? Why? He asked the scouts to hand him the file of Christopher Nkunku, who was the Bundesliga top scorer at that time. He'd been told "sorry, we did not scout him". Rangnick became incredibly upset, saying "how is it possible that a PL top club do not scout the Bundesliga's best player????". This was one of the reason why Rangnick said the club need an open heart surgery. I don't know if anything changed in this sense since INEOS arrived, probably not.
 
There are reports that Liverpool will provide competition to Chelsea for Etkike. I'd presume once Wirtz is done and Darwin Nunez is sold. Seeing as Isak is unobtainable for Liverpool, Etkike isn't a bad alternative.

He would seem like a reasonable replacement for Darwin.
 
I quite like him as he always tries to stay positive. I won't watch their content in the aftermath of a painful defeat (barely seen any of their videos post-Europa final) but whenever I fancy some feel-good United content in this doom-and-gloom period then it's a pleasant change listening to him and Jay, even if they are a little bit deluded.
This. Its just mostly easy-going listen and mostly enjoyable. For caf, seems like everything they watch or listen to in regards to United has to be either doom-and-gloom or jam-packed full of football news and rumours and what not; and everything else is shit.
 
Brilliant thread.

The fact people think he can’t deal with the intensity or the physical of the premier league is absolutely incredible to me. It’s probably his greatest strength.


I'm sold.

From the eye test it's hard to tell how fast he is. From the compilations of his goals defenders seem to struggle to catch him once he's away but I questioned if that was down to lack of elite athleticism from the defenders he's facing. He doesn't look that fast from eye test, but the stats suggest otherwise?
 
Just an opinion. Apparently there's no interest from other clubs in Gyökeres. Arsenal tries to sign Sesko since January, Liverpool needs a striker but they don't speak about him and so on. We're the only club which want to sign him. Is that a coincidence? I've read an interesting interview with Ármin Pécsi, the 20 years old hungarian goalkeeper who's been signed by Liverpool to replace Caoimhín Kelleher. He told to the news that after he signed his contract he'd been shown his scout report by the Liverpool scouts and he was totally shocked to see that the scouts analyzed him to the last bit. They knew everything about him, calculated his trajectory, possible future, everything. What if the same happpened to Gyökeres? After scouting him (I'm 100% sure they did) these clubs think that at the age of 27, after all the analysis they thought it's not worth signing him? That's why Arsenal try to chase the 22 year old Sesko instead? Even I think that a 27 years old from a portuguese league won't change the world in red, but i know a club which finished in 15th and without european football cannot sign the best.

Did the same people analyze Darwin Nunez before splashing 100 million for him? I get using the data, but we are talking about a human being with feelings, confidence, and a state of mind that can not be anticipated or accurately measured. It's only so much that you can predict before hand.
 
Would love us to sign him and Rio to be the one interviewing after what he said on his channel today
 
Thanks for the reminder. You are desperate for this move aren’t you?

I’m not complaining mind still think he will be a success here. Can’t say I do have a good track record though always say that about anyone we sign :lol:

Let's just say I've got my baguette out.
 
lad can do things with the ball at his feet that our other attacking players can't......reminds me a lot of Ruud with his slalom type dribbling around the box

Ruud was a better finisher, which is not a knock on Gyokeres since there haven't been many better finishers than peak Ruud. Gyok seems to excel outside the box a bit more than Ruud, who I believe only scored one of his 150 goals from outside the box.
 
Just watched the latest Stretford Paddock video and Laurie Whitwell does my head in and comes across as quite thick honestly.

Suggesting that maybe Hojlund could turn it around. How is this guy is a paid journalist.

Then the other two idiots on there saying that Gyokeres would be a ‘bit of an upgrade’ on Hojlund. Are you fecking kidding me? :lol:
Yeah I found that infuriating. He showed to be someone who clearly hasn’t watched Hojlund much. To suggest Gyokeres is just a bit of an upgrade was downright ridiculous. Comparing arguably one of the worst strikers in Europe this season with arguably the best striker in Europe was laughable.

One thing I find funny is whenever someone like Laurie is on these channels, they always ask him what he knows about various players and situations. And virtually everytime he just gives his “opinion” rather than any ITK knowledge. It’s like asking any guy on the street what their view is.
 
Stopped watching that channel years ago, that Joe is hard to watch.

The content from the regulars is beyond terrible, no real insight or journalism just repeating what we all know.

I do watch it if there's an interesting guest on, besides that there's not much value.
 
Just watched the latest Stretford Paddock video and Laurie Whitwell does my head in and comes across as quite thick honestly.

Suggesting that maybe Hojlund could turn it around. How is this guy is a paid journalist.

Then the other two idiots on there saying that Gyokeres would be a ‘bit of an upgrade’ on Hojlund. Are you fecking kidding me? :lol:
If hojlund could turn it around, I can be on the list for Forbes top 100 richest.
 
Ruud was a better finisher, which is not a knock on Gyokeres since there haven't been many better finishers than peak Ruud. Gyok seems to excel outside the box a bit more than Ruud, who I believe only scored one of his 150 goals from outside the box.
Ruud was one of the best finishers i've ever seen play from teh forward position...the ultimate CF in the box

he's more athletic than Ruud which allows for that dribbling outside the box