Viktor Gyökeres



Big game. Big summer.

That reads like, "we haven't actually got any info on this situation. But if we were Gyokeres, we'd probably go for Arsenal over Utd. But maybe he'll change his mind."

They know feck all cause Gyokeres hasn't said anything. But the reality is, nobody picks Arsenal over Utd regardless of CL football.

If you want the money you go to City, Chelsea or maybe Newcastle. If you admire the history and prestige of a club then you go for Utd or Liverpool. If you want to settle for 2nd best then you go for Arsenal or Spurs.
 
Sorry but they really couldn't. Sporting battered Man City, and Porto/Benfica always produce world class talents that excel elsewhere.

How do the teams outside the Portuguese big three compare with their English Premier League equivalents?

Sporting beat a shite version of City that were losing week in week out. If you look at their Champions League campaign as a whole it was pretty poor. They struggled to qualify for the playoffs and were comprehensively beaten by Dortmund.

It blows my mind that some people are pinning their hopes on a striker that has spent the last four seasons in the Championship and the Portuguese league.
Liam Delap is more proven at Premier League level yet people think a significantly older Gyokeres is a better bet for double the price!
 
How do the teams outside the Portuguese big three compare with their English Premier League equivalents?

Sporting beat a shite version of City that were losing week in week out. If you look at their Champions League campaign as a whole it was pretty poor. They struggled to qualify for the playoffs and were comprehensively beaten by Dortmund.

It blows my mind that some people are pinning their hopes on a striker that has spent the last four seasons in the Championship and the Portuguese league.
Liam Delap is more proven at Premier League level yet people think a significantly older Gyokeres is a better bet for double the price!
This is such a weird take. Sure Delap is more proven because he actually HAS played in the league. Gyokeres hasn't yet. The latter is still the better striker.
 
Im trying to think as a non biased football player here.

He's seen Arsenal finish 2nd 3 seasons in a row, and just reach the Champions League semi final. He looks at the squad, and sees that nearly all the first team, guys like Timber, Saliba, Gabriel, Rice, Saka etc are either in their prime or still to hit their prime.
He will know everyone is saying Arsenal lack a 20 goal a season striker that can maybe take them over the line, and I'd imagine as confident striker he'd back himself to do that.

He's also just played against them a few months ago and ended up on the end of a bit of a beating.
And his representative will have spoke to Berta, who will have told him we are close to signing Zubimendi and really want to upgrade the attack, with him a key member of that.

Now, please don't think I'm saying Utd wouldn't be an attractive option, of course you are, and you have the added bonus of having his former boss as manager. I'm certainly not disrespecting Utd, I actually said in the Cunha thread I think he'd probably be better joining Utd than Arsenal as I think he'd have a nailed down position in that left 10 position. I just don't agree with your assessment of our position really.

Arsenal are clearly the smarter choice. They’re well ahead of us in competing for the league and CL, and as you say, he will likely see himself as the missing piece. Frankly the only reason he would come to us currently is the Amorim factor, even if we do win EL. I’m not sure that will be enough. I hope he does pick us but I’ll understand the logic of him choosing Arsenal right now.
 
If he only wants to come because of Champions League then feck him, overrated anyway
I see your point, should want to play for the biggest club in the world. I don't think he's overrated however, I'd be afraid he comes back to the Prem and gets put in everyones back pocket.
 
Id be worried more if Liverpool are joining in the race. Arsenal is better in the league than us but theres no guarantee they will win anything. A bit naive to think he is the missing piece and can change the whole clubs mentality and the manager's by himself. If he wants to win he will wait for better options than us and Arsenal. If not then its all fair game. If you take Amorim out then you can argue its all Arsenal to lose. People seem to underestimate an impact the manager can have when it comes into siging players. And Amorim convinced him to join Sporting once where he was proven to be right.
 
Arsenal are clearly the smarter choice. They’re well ahead of us in competing for the league and CL, and as you say, he will likely see himself as the missing piece. Frankly the only reason he would come to us currently is the Amorim factor, even if we do win EL. I’m not sure that will be enough. I hope he does pick us but I’ll understand the logic of him choosing Arsenal right now.
Yeah I fully expect him to join Arsenal
 
How do the teams outside the Portuguese big three compare with their English Premier League equivalents?

Sporting beat a shite version of City that were losing week in week out. If you look at their Champions League campaign as a whole it was pretty poor. They struggled to qualify for the playoffs and were comprehensively beaten by Dortmund.

It blows my mind that some people are pinning their hopes on a striker that has spent the last four seasons in the Championship and the Portuguese league.
Liam Delap is more proven at Premier League level yet people think a significantly older Gyokeres is a better bet for double the price!
Gyokeres is a much better bet than Delap but both of them are an inferior bet to Osimhen
 
This race to buy a starting number 9 is fascinating with all of Arsenal, United and Liverpool desperately needing one.

Saying that, I have no clue what player would be the best choice out of Delap, Osimhen, Gyokeres, Sesko etc.
 
This race to buy a starting number 9 is fascinating with all of Arsenal, United and Liverpool desperately needing one.

Saying that, I have no clue what player would be the best choice out of Delap, Osimhen, Gyokeres, Sesko etc.
Surely the one who has a good goalscoring record in a top league and good goalscoring records in two others?
 
This race to buy a starting number 9 is fascinating with all of Arsenal, United and Liverpool desperately needing one.

Saying that, I have no clue what player would be the best choice out of Delap, Osimhen, Gyokeres, Sesko etc.

I’m confident Liverpool won’t go for Delap. I think they can aim a little higher. I can see Sesko going there. Maybe Gyökeres and Osimhen will be overlooked - can see them going for someone younger.
 
I don't think this is our number 1 target if we qualify for champions league.

Delap our target if we dont qualify.
 
This race to buy a starting number 9 is fascinating with all of Arsenal, United and Liverpool desperately needing one.

Saying that, I have no clue what player would be the best choice out of Delap, Osimhen, Gyokeres, Sesko etc.
Moises Kean?
 
I’m confident Liverpool won’t go for Delap. I think they can aim a little higher. I can see Sesko going there. Maybe Gyökeres and Osimhen will be overlooked - can see them going for someone younger.

I have no idea what we’re going to do. Weird as it is after a league winning season, the team needs quite a few additions.

I agree, though, that Delap is unlikely. We usually like to get them when they’ve played 150 ish matches and are ready to make the final step up.

Who’d you prefer for United?
 
I have no idea what we’re going to do. Weird as it is after a league winning season, the team needs quite a few additions.

I agree, though, that Delap is unlikely. We usually like to get them when they’ve played 150 ish matches and are ready to make the final step up.

Who’d you prefer for United?

Just realised you’re a Liverpool fan :lol: Apologies - was typing as if I was speaking generally.

From those options, Osimhen probably is the pipe dream. Presses, athletic and seems to have that scoring instinct.
Think he’d be frightening in your team.
Realistically, we probably will get Delap. Off the cuff, I’d love Ekitike.
 
Just looked at his stats.

Apart from this season, he’s never scored more than 6 goals in a league campaign. Don’t see him as a possibility for any of us, you or Arsenal.
Not Arsenal or you, but could be an alternative to Delap for us. I don't think Gyökeres is coming to Old Trafford and Osimhen has high wage demands.
 
This race to buy a starting number 9 is fascinating with all of Arsenal, United and Liverpool desperately needing one.

Saying that, I have no clue what player would be the best choice out of Delap, Osimhen, Gyokeres, Sesko etc.

I could see something like this

Liverpool - Ekiteke
Arsenal - Gyokeres
Utd - Delap
Chelsea - Sesko maybe, or back in for Osimhen?
 
This race to buy a starting number 9 is fascinating with all of Arsenal, United and Liverpool desperately needing one.

Saying that, I have no clue what player would be the best choice out of Delap, Osimhen, Gyokeres, Sesko etc.
Delap.
 
I could see something like this

Liverpool - Ekiteke
Arsenal - Gyokeres
Utd - Delap
Chelsea - Sesko maybe, or back in for Osimhen?
I agree with this. I also see Samu Omodrion or Osimhen ending up at Chelsea. I dont see any English club taking the expensive plunge with Sesko just yet.


I also think there's a decent chance of Arsenal getting both Gyokeres and Watkins from Villa in the same window
 
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I agree with this. I also see Samu Omodrion or Osimhen ending up at Chelsea. I dont see any English club taking the exoensocw plunge with Sesko just yet.


I also think there's a decent chance of Arsenal getting both Gyokeres and Watkins from Villa in the same window
Them getting both would be a real body blow
 
So if us winning the final is dependant on Gyokeres joining us, Arsenal fans will have to support Spurs in the final.
I think we are looking elsewhere, there's just too much noise for him not to end up at Arsenal. I worry for next season if we don't sign a proven goalscorer
 
Probably, I suppose. Is Osimhen the one you’d prefer United to get?
Yes, for me. Although I think we need two. Osimhen and Delap would be ideal as I don't think Rasmus or Zirkzee are ever going to be good enough. And then a Cunha in for the #10 spot.
 
Yes, for me. Although I think we need two. Osimhen and Delap would be ideal as I don't think Rasmus or Zirkzee are ever going to be good enough. And then a Cunha in for the #10 spot.
We definitely aren't getting both, wish there was a negotiation point for Osimhen wage demands but doubt it
 
We definitely aren't getting both, wish there was a negotiation point for Osimhen wage demands but doubt it
I'm sure given we're getting hundreds of thousands of pounds off the wage bill this summer (hopefully) there'd be room for both.

Delap shouldn't command more than 100k a week and Osimhen will be bound by wage structure if he comes.

That said Osimhen and letting Obi have a bigger role would work.

If we go into the season with Delap as a main striker then it's set to be an absolute disaster
 
I'm sure given we're getting hundreds of thousands of pounds off the wage bill this summer (hopefully) there'd be room for both.

Delap shouldn't command more than 100k a week and Osimhen will be bound by wage structure if he comes.

That said Osimhen and letting Obi have a bigger role would work.

If we go into the season with Delap as a main striker then it's set to be an absolute disaster
I wouldn’t feel it would so much of a disaster if we added Mbeumo but like @RuudTom83 says on thread he plays in the same areas as Amad so it's a dilemma
 
I agree with this. I also see Samu Omodrion or Osimhen ending up at Chelsea. I dont see any English club taking the exoensocw plunge with Sesko just yet.


I also think there's a decent chance of Arsenal getting both Gyokeres and Watkins from Villa in the same window

I was actually thinking about Samu as well for Chelsea, but not sure where things ended up between them after the failed medical or whatever happened there.

I'm also thinking if Leipzig are insisting on €90M or whatever it is for Sesko that no-one will bite at that price.
 
I'm sure given we're getting hundreds of thousands of pounds off the wage bill this summer (hopefully) there'd be room for both.

Delap shouldn't command more than 100k a week and Osimhen will be bound by wage structure if he comes.

That said Osimhen and letting Obi have a bigger role would work.

If we go into the season with Delap as a main striker then it's set to be an absolute disaster
We won't break the wage structure again, so think it's best to move away from him as a striker target
 
I could see something like this

Liverpool - Ekiteke
Arsenal - Gyokeres
Utd - Delap
Chelsea - Sesko maybe, or back in for Osimhen?
I'd be shocked if Ekitike manage to get anything above West Ham or Everton. If he does, his agent is a genius.
 
I will be basing my opinion of gyokeres entirely on how he plays today in what is surely the best league match remaining in europe?