rooney2009
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They always seem to get the luckiest cup draws as well
But they beat the top PL teams. Liverpool in 2019, for example, won the UCL, but was unable to beat City, losing 2-1 in a tight game. City in 2019 also fell on away goals to a Tottenham team that City beat in both rounds in PL.Because they too often steamroll the league, a league with so many wimpy teams that daren’t actually play them incase it results in a twatting. Media take it for granted that a run to finals and winning finals is a given, they completely forget that they often struggle against the top sides and must beat several top top sides in order to win a treble. They don’t play Palace or Southampton when they get to the business end of big cups.
And get beat by them often, that’s the point, it’s far from a formality.But they beat the top PL teams.
Because nowadays the league and CL has become awash with oil money and plasticity, and the media are desperate to generate a storyline, even though its utterly hollowClosest any English team has come to a quadruple (actually quintuple) was us in 08/09, and even after we won the league cup and were ten points clear I don’t remember anyone talking about it as a serious possibility.
Why did this become such a constant narrative around a City side who’ve never even got a CL final?
Spot on. Ole was getting shit on earlier this season for his top 6 record when Pep was sitting there winless against the current top 6 at the time.And get beat by them often, that’s the point, it’s far from a formality.
This season for example they’ve beaten United, Chelsea, Spurs and Leicester, and also have been beaten by United, Chelsea, Spurs and Leicester.
Pep’s tactics have been getting found out in the CL late stages even since he was in charge of one of the best sides in history.
I did say this when it happened but from a Liverpool fan it’s sour grapes. They’ve also just got a second eleven that could challenge for a top 4, its depth and money that in a congested season and with most normal clubs financially strapped that you can’t compete with. He tightened them up defensively and it’s basically been a free title. Of course it’s annoying as a Liverpool fan because with a squad just at its peak it was an ideal opportunity to eke out another title, alas not to be which is great for United fansAnd the utter pricks benefitting from a match postponement v Everton due to Covid concerns within the City squad, conveniently during a stretch when they were struggling and Everton likely to beat them/get a positive result.
That extended break was extremely suspicious and ultimately ensured City were suitably fresh when every other team in the league were out on their feet with fixtures.
And the fact that the media has a hardon for Pep, the godfather of football.The money.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/03/can_man_utd_rewrite_history.htmlClosest any English team has come to a quadruple (actually quintuple) was us in 08/09, and even after we won the league cup and were ten points clear I don’t remember anyone talking about it as a serious possibility.
Why did this become such a constant narrative around a City side who’ve never even got a CL final?
PSG are even more overrated than they are. Not that I will have much interest in who wins, as long as Real/Chelsea do them in the final.Strongly fancy PSG to take care of them in the CL too. Mbappe will have serious joy getting in behind them
Media don't really talk them up though, they just simply start to mention the quadruple every second minute to create some narrative.Happens every year. Media talk up how amazing they are, then they get beaten in one and very quickly collapse in two or three of the others and end up with not much to show for the season. Like clockwork.
No it doesn't. If the Dippers had done it, Sky would probably have been calling for a National holiday in their name.I said it before and Il say it again, our treble achievements hasnt been show enough respect.
If or when man city equal out treble then the quadruple nonsense should be spoken about.
We have an old saying, learn to walk before you can run.
To be fair, there have also been some calls in Utd's favour. Some of the pens Utd have got this season have been fortuitous if we are being honest. Further, Chelsea really should've had a pen at OT. Although that particular one was offset by the one that should've ben awarded at SB. Ironically that fecked both clubs over as both would've been a point better off if they had rightfully been given.We would probably be in the title race if it wasnt for some poor officiating in our home game to sheff u and the absolute scandal of an opening goal city scored at home to villa. I'm not bitter though.
Anyway more on point feck off city! A billion pounds and you still cant match SAF and the 99 team!
For sure, City are a beatable team. Leeds and Chelsea have shown the exact blueprint to beat them. What teams need to do against them is accept that it is likely they will lose but go out swinging against them as doing so gives them a much better chance of points.They amount of space they had behind them was ridiculous. Chelsea could have scored at least 2 more if they were a bit better with their finishing and tighter with their runs. Can imagine Mbappe seriously ruining them if they try that again...
They're a better version of us who have done well under Ole against them. Just think Mbappe and Neymar will really get at themPSG are even more overrated than they are. Not that I will have much interest in who wins, as long as Real/Chelsea do them in the final.
PSG are indeed way overrated. However, fortunately, they are a good match up for City as they have two of the best players in the world to expose City's defence. Problem for PSG, is that both Real and Chelsea are the worst sort of match up for them.PSG are even more overrated than they are. Not that I will have much interest in who wins, as long as Real/Chelsea do them in the final.
Anyone can win anything if they are given the budget to do so. Especially when they're rich enough to have FFP rules overturned.And the fact that the media has a hardon for Pep, the godfather of football.
I really thought we could do it that season. That defeat to Moyes on pens still hurt. SAF should have played a stronger team for sure and had Ronaldo playing for longer.Closest any English team has come to a quadruple (actually quintuple) was us in 08/09, and even after we won the league cup and were ten points clear I don’t remember anyone talking about it as a serious possibility.
Why did this become such a constant narrative around a City side who’ve never even got a CL final?
The Passing Machine™ is ticking again.And the fact that the media has a hardon for Pep, the godfather of football.
But whenever you play against top teams, you can always be beaten, that's obvious. Games of high level can always go to one side or the other. About this season, City's losses to Leicester and Tottenham happened early in this season, City didn't start well. They only started to find their footing towards the end of December. City also won almost all games against Chelsea this season, today was their first loss and also with a heavily rotated squad. City had a run of 21 or 22 victores in all competitions, which also included beating the likes of Tottenham, Liverpool, Chelsea. And they beat Leicester a few weeks ago too.And get beat by them often, that’s the point, it’s far from a formality.
This season for example they’ve beaten United, Chelsea, Spurs and Leicester, and also have been beaten by United, Chelsea, Spurs and Leicester.
Last season they lost to United, Spurs and Liverpool, and in the CL v. Lyon.
Their records in top games shouldn’t give the media and fans the confidence that any cup competition is won until it’s won.
Pep’s tactics have been getting found out in the CL late stages even since he was in charge of one of the best sides in history.
What? One loss and this discourse comes? I can't see Guardiola quitting City anytime soon, where would he go? He has never felt more comfortable at club and turned this season around, which had started badly.I reckon their star is fading, and fast. I can’t see Pep being there much longer; KdB is perennially injured, Fernandinho is on his last legs, Aguero is on his way out which leaves... Phil Foden as their leading light. The others are good players but they don’t give City that sense of imperiousness that the former do.
Guardiola's City and Klopp's Liverpool are undoubtedly one of the all-time great teams in England. They are at least better and more dominant than Mourinho's Chelsea and Wenger's Arsenal. Only Ferguson's United circa 2007-2009 can match them.When you listen to the ‘experts’, you’d think they’re one of the great teams. They’re a good side for sure but compared to the great sides of the past 30 years, they’re way off and many of their best players are on the way down.
I think with United not challenging for the major trophies in recent years, it has made me less tribal and hateful of other teams (well bar Liverpool), so I like watching City play when they’re at full flow...DeBruyne is a wonderful player, Aguero is one of the PL greats and Foden looks like he’ll be pretty special but overall I look at their team and I just don’t see greatness.
If anything, both Guardiola's City and Klopp's Liverpool were and are often VERY underrated here. I lost my count of how many times I saw bullshit being said downplaying the quality of the football of those teams and, specially, their players.They're such an overrated side and their squad is insanely overrated by United fans on the cafe.
They were never going to win the quadruple.
City's defense is much better than Bayern's and has often been truly incredible and rock-solid this season. Also, City rested a lot of starters against Leeds and Chelsea.No it doesn't. If the Dippers had done it, Sky would probably have been calling for a National holiday in their name.
To be fair, there have also been some calls in Utd's favour. Some of the pens Utd have got this season have been fortuitous if we are being honest. Further, Chelsea really should've had a pen at OT. Although that particular one was offset by the one that should've ben awarded at SB. Ironically that fecked both clubs over as both would've been a point better off if they had rightfully been given.
For sure, City are a beatable team. Leeds and Chelsea have shown the exact blueprint to beat them. What teams need to do against them is accept that it is likely they will lose but go out swinging against them as doing so gives them a much better chance of points.
Unfortunately they remind me of a Ferguson side you’d see every few years. Not tactically or stylistically, just that the manager is able to make a few tactical adjustments to paper over some cracks and fully take advantage in the drop in quality in the league to stroll to a league title. This whole business of Cancelo overloading the midfield, it’s not the hallmark of a great side, it’s the hallmark of attempting to balance an unbalanced side. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a tactical master piece and has done exactly the job Pep hoped it would but it’s the difference between, say, Fergie winning with a genuinely great balanced side in 2007/2008 or Fergie moving an ageing Giggs into a central role and winning against much weaker opposition in 10/11.They're such an overrated side and their squad is insanely overrated by United fans on the cafe.
They were never going to win the quadruple.
that’s the fecking point I’m making man, are you even following?But whenever you play against top teams, you can always be beaten, that's obvious. .
Disagree with this. Klopp’s Pool from 2018-2020 were obviously very good, but so were the Leicester and Blackburn sides who won the PL. Every title winning side is very good. However, they scrapped loads of 1 goal wins through luck of refereeing decisions. Even their style of play was never truly beautiful, like Fergie, Pep and Wenger’s best teams. 99 points is obviously good, but they did it in possibly the weakest PL in history. We finished 3rd with only 66 points. This year is definitely stronger already, as at least 70 points will be required to even get top 4. Mourinho’s Chelsea would do a job on them and Wenger’s Arsenal Invincibles with Henry and Bergkamp would absolutely destroy them.Guardiola's City and Klopp's Liverpool are undoubtedly one of the all-time great teams in England. They are at least better and more dominant than Mourinho's Chelsea and Wenger's Arsenal. Only Ferguson's United circa 2007-2009 can match them.
He's totally obsessed, I've never seen anything like it. It's like he's started his own private religion.haha
feck off megamind, you air headed cnut.