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Odoi isn’t nearly as fast or explosive as Vinicius for starters.
But he's also fast and explosive. I'm comparing Hudson-Odoi to Vinicius from a couple of years ago. The one that was still learning to be a coherent part of a top side, whose finishing was erratic etc. Not the current version.
 

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If he was one of our pampered players, he would’ve crumbled after that. You can’t survive at Madrid without having thick skin. Thats why they have the mentality they do to keep on winning.
imagine the press briefings
 

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But he's also fast and explosive. I'm comparing Hudson-Odoi to Vinicius from a couple of years ago. The one that was still learning to be a coherent part of a top side, whose finishing was erratic etc. Not the current version.
Not close to the explosive style of Vinicius. How many other players take on Walker on the outside and give him a run for his money? No way could Odoi do the same. He’s decent by all means, but not that similar imo.
 

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Not close to the explosive style of Vinicius. How many other players take on Walker on the outside and give him a run for his money? No way could Odoi do the same. He’s decent by all means, but not that similar imo.
Sancho might be faster than Odoi.
 

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Not close to the explosive style of Vinicius. How many other players take on Walker on the outside and give him a run for his money? No way could Odoi do the same. He’s decent by all means, but not that similar imo.
He was pretty explosive before his injury. He's shown flashes of it since. Anyway I was looking at the kind of shortcomings Vinicius had before he blossomed into this player, and they were the same shortcomings Hudson-Odoi has currently. Stylistically I suppose we can agree to disagree. I think they're pretty similar.
 

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He was pretty explosive before his injury. He's shown flashes of it since. Anyway I was looking at the kind of shortcomings Vinicius had before he blossomed into this player, and they were the same shortcomings Hudson-Odoi has currently. Stylistically I suppose we can agree to disagree. I think they're pretty similar.
His speed has never impressed me. More similar to Saka - wide playmaker that can dribble past, but not explosive enough to do what Vinicius is doing.
 

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This makes me wonder actually. Who is the fastest footballer atm?
You probably need to look at some average player in a random team. If instead you look at top teams from the best European leagues, it is perhaps a little easier to make a discussion.

Mbappe, Adama, Dembele, Walker (top speed probably him), Daniel James, Haaland… there are a great many more. United always used to have one in discussion. Not so much now. Rashford at his best was fast. Don’t see it much anymore.
 

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You probably need to look at some average player in a random team. If instead you look at top teams from the best European leagues, it is perhaps a little easier to make a discussion.

Mbappe, Adama, Dembele, Walker (top speed probably him), Daniel James, Haaland… there are a great many more. United always used to have one in discussion. Not so much now. Rashford at his best was fast. Don’t see it much anymore.
Mbappe and Adama seem clear of anyone else I've watched on a pitch in recent years. They seem to just pull away from anyone both with and without the ball
 

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His speed has never impressed me. More similar to Saka - wide playmaker that can dribble past, but not explosive enough to do what Vinicius is doing.
Okay we are talking about degrees of explosive. Seems like semantics to me when the only point I made from the start was that I saw a lot of the same shortcomings in both players and therefore Vinicius' rise to this level gives me up Hudson-Odoi can overcome his own shortcomings if given the chance and trust to step up.
 

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Previous season he tried to force it more, while now he picks his moments better, even in games where he doesn't have many moments, he make those few moments counts, he has matured a lot.
 

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That clip reinforces Walker's speed more than anything. His recovery was pretty impressive for someone, who pressed too tight and got done.

If Phil Jones (?!) wasn't there, it would have been interesting to see Dembele going straight for goal with the open pitch and if Walker would have got close enough/goal side.
 

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Defenders who just run a straight line without the ball will look faster.
 

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I'm still to see anyone outpace Kyle Walker. He may genuinely be the fastest footballer I've ever seen

Also, I have seen Perisic smoking Walker in a straight line few years back when we were linked with him.Tried but couldn’t find the video.
 

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I'm still to see anyone outpace Kyle Walker. He may genuinely be the fastest footballer I've ever seen
Agree. Not in terms of acceleration, but his top speed is probably the most impressive I’ve seen. It’s a major component in why City are able to sit so high up the pitch. Mbappe got no luck out of him. Vinicius accelerated away, but Walker always caught up. He outsprinted a peak Bale with ease as well.