Vinicius Junior

[Red Pumpkin]

Maybe, but I still would argue that he may not have such a physical advantage.

Being lazy is a mindset. Lewandowski is bigger, older and is three times the pressing machine.

Lewandowski wasn't always a pressing machine. He happened to get Klopp as manager when he was a 21 year old nobody from Poland and it has of course served him well. Mbappe could still learn to press, for example if Klopp becomes the manager it's the first amendment. Especially if Perez backs Klopp and says it's press or the bench.

 

[Rossa]

Lewandowski wasn't always a pressing machine. He happened to get Klopp as manager when he was a 21 year old nobody from Poland and it has of course served him well. Mbappe could still learn to press, for example if Klopp becomes the manager it's the first amendment. Especially if Perez backs Klopp and says it's press or the bench.

We thought ETH woulf manage to do the same to some of our players… some seem to think they are too big for such menial jobs.

 

[Red Pumpkin]

We thought ETH woulf manage to do the same to some of our players… some seem to think they are too big for such menial jobs.

Main problem is it has to come from within the team, especially at the big clubs with the big egos. When Bayern lost UCL at home against Chelsea 2012 the players hardly slept that summer. They took it upon themselves to rectify it the next season by running and pressing more than ever - including Ribéry and Robben - and were rewarded with a sextuple (or something like that).

Kroos made snide remarks a few years ago about Hazard. His lazy attitude made him into a pariah in a Real Madrid team full of stars but players that also were ready to put in a shift.

The harsh truth is that if a manager requires the team to press and they refuse the owners usually fire the manager because it's easier to replace one manager than 25 players. So the conclusion is you need your 7-8 best players buying into the pressing system and those 7-8 need to force every newcomer and youngsters to follow suit.

It's of course a bit easier for a manager to implement pressing if backed by the board but it's still no guarantee. At United ten Hag was backed by the board but he didn't have his 7-8 best players backing him. It eventually led to falls outs with several big egos and eventually the board cut its losses even though they didn't fault him.

 

[Hammondo]

Maybe, but I still would argue that he may not have such a physical advantage.

Being lazy is a mindset. Lewandowski is bigger, older and is three times the pressing machine.

Yea but I think that speed often stands out the most.