Vinicius | signs a new contract with Madrid

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I'm not very confident it'll happen and it is most likely just a ploy to get Madrid to pay him what he wants (and all the power to him for doing it), but it's hard not to get a little excited by the idea. Even if this doesn't work out it gives me hope for the future of the club are willing to make this level of signing.
Yeah you are showing annoyingly high level of ambition
 
Never scored vs United though, did he? Flop
Hold on to your horsechoker mate, he may have never scored against United, but he's got 9 goals and 8 assists in 18 games for United
 
Yeah you are showing annoyingly high level of ambition

Don't worry, benji is right, Real will just pony up the cash and it won't go through. Nice to dream sometimes though.
 
Don't worry, benji is right, Real will just pony up the cash and it won't go through. Nice to dream sometimes though.
Certainly a more realistic dream than me wanting Utd to sign Mbappe or Kvaratskhelia after a few years building
 
Paul Pogba the most talented midfielder at the time to come through in his peak for Juve was not a superstar?

Still at this stage, there hasn’t been a midfielder profile who has all the attributes of Pogba. Whether what happened to his career afterwards, Pogba was massive.
Dont agree, didnt watch enough italian football but the 9/10x i did he was pretty inconsistent then, anomynous in cl big games.
He was obviously talented, and physically strong...but the most talented when there were the likes of pirlo in his own team, xavi, inesta still and alonso, modric off the top of my head.....stretching it a bit there arent you?
 
Feels like classic little club syndrome. Similar to the notorious little man syndrome those under 6ft struggle with.
This is kinda funny considering you mr need to to talk about the size of the club you support in a thread about Vini Jr…
I think he perhaps goes to Arsenal if there’s no other interest from the bigger clubs.
Liverpool and United are the two biggest clubs in England.
United and Liverpool are bigger clubs than Arsenal though
Do you agree with the statement that United and Liverpool are bigger clubs than Arsenal or not?
The reality, as we’ve already clarified, is that the two biggest clubs in England are Liverpool and United.
 
This is kinda funny considering you mr need to to talk about the size of the club you support in a thread about Vini Jr…

He's got a point though, Arsenal are a little club with less European trophies than spurs :lol:
 
I was replying back to others. It’s not the gotcha you thought it was.
Of course, it was the Arsenal fans who wanted to veer the conversation away from their club pursuing a world class player and towards which English clubs are historically the biggest. Silly me.

Do you agree with the statement that United and Liverpool are bigger clubs than Arsenal or not? It’s a yes or no really..
This is the type of question you ask when you’re desperate to point out that the club you support is bigger than a rival fan’s club. Which is kinda silly, but as a fellow football fan I’m aware we all do silly things at times.

It goes from silly to laughable when you then accuse those very same rival fans of displaying insecurity about the size of their club.

But even then it would be cool if you’d just own it. But you do you.
 
United and Liverpool are bigger clubs than Arsenal though. That’s the point.
90% of players don't give two hoots about historical pedigree
They want the best chance to win trophies and to get paid as much as possible.
 
Of course, it was the Arsenal fans who wanted to veer the conversation away from their club pursuing a world class player and towards which English clubs are historically the biggest. Silly me.


This is the type of question you ask when you’re desperate to point out that the club you support is bigger than a rival fan’s club. Which is kinda silly, but as a fellow football fan I’m aware we all do silly things at times.

It goes from silly to laughable when you then accuse those very same rival fans of displaying insecurity about the size of their club.

But even then it would be cool if you’d just own it. But you do you.
You keep quoting me though and bringing it up. I parked this ages ago!

Let it go… let it go…
 
90% of players don't give two hoots about historical pedigree
They want the best chance to win trophies and to get paid as much as possible.
As we have seen with City especially in the last decade+, the biggest club thing doesn't really impact the ability to pull the biggest talents after a few years. Look who they have had....arguably much bigger names than what the others have amassed including us.
 
Dont agree, didnt watch enough italian football but the 9/10x i did he was pretty inconsistent then, anomynous in cl big games.
He was obviously talented, and physically strong...but the most talented when there were the likes of pirlo in his own team, xavi, inesta still and alonso, modric off the top of my head.....stretching it a bit there arent you?

He is more talented than all the midfielders you named individually bar Inesta. He never reached the heights of his talents in the end. Especially when he played for United in his peak whilst others had better players around them.

For a midfielder, he had amazing attributes - strong, tall, good dribbler, explosive burst when dribbling and a killer ball. His downfall is a whole another argument but the point stands he was seen as a big talent and superstar when signed.
 
A couple of questions for @giorno & the other Madrid fans;

Do you actually want Vini to stay? Do you think there's a way Jose can get him, Mbappe, Jude & Diomande to play in the same team in a functioning system?
 
A couple of questions for @giorno & the other Madrid fans;

Do you actually want Vini to stay? Do you think there's a way Jose can get him, Mbappe, Jude & Diomande to play in the same team in a functioning system?
Also, if you're up for it, how close to his demands would you be comfortable with the club getting?
 
Not looking good now, surprised he's happy to work with Mourinho after the racism incident just a few months ago.

Oh well, was a fun week dreaming :lol:
 
Not looking good now, surprised he's happy to work with Mourinho after the racism incident just a few months ago.

Oh well, was a fun week dreaming :lol:
Least you had the ambition to go for it, I dream of the day we are able to do that again for a player
 
If their meeting leads to a sale the 150M pricetag is a bit much. They could get 0 and an unhappy Vinicius signing for whoever in the summer.
 
If their meeting leads to a sale the 150M pricetag is a bit much. They could get 0 and an unhappy Vinicius signing for whoever in the summer.
If that’s in Euros it would be only £10m more than Morgan Rogers. And if you want a comparison with a top player in his last year of his contract, it’s only £35m more than the Harry Kane fee… and he was 30 years old.

I think all the money talk is a bit of a red herring. We could cover his wages by selling Jesus and Martinelli.

What’s made this transfer unlikely from the start is that we’d have to convince Vini to leave Real Madrid at the peak of his powers. We were always up against the odds, but I’m still glad we’re exploring it as our squad is strong enough that we can target needle-movers rather than buying for the sake of it.
 
A couple of questions for @giorno & the other Madrid fans;

Do you actually want Vini to stay? Do you think there's a way Jose can get him, Mbappe, Jude & Diomande to play in the same team in a functioning system?
In normal circumstances I would want Vini to stay because he is scary good when he is inspired and has a functioning ecosystem around him.

But probably because he feels Mbappe is considered the player to build a team around at Madrid (instead of him), he is asking for way more money than Florentino is eager to pay him. He wants to be the star in the team he plays for and I cannot blame him for that.

Do you think there's a way Jose can get him, Mbappe, Jude & Diomande to play in the same team in a functioning system?

Too many cooks spoil the broth.
 
Still feels like he's off to me and that's why Madrid made a late move to hijack the Yan Diomande deal.

I think they'll move Mbappe over to the left and sign a striker too.
 
Still feels like he's off to me and that's why Madrid made a late move to hijack the Yan Diomande deal.

I think they'll move Mbappe over to the left and sign a striker too.
Let's hope it's haaland. Eventually he will play for them. Sooner the better.
 
Still feels like he's off to me and that's why Madrid made a late move to hijack the Yan Diomande deal.

I think they'll move Mbappe over to the left and sign a striker too.
So you think they are interested in Diomande as his successor, but you also think they will move Mbappe to his position and buy a new forward? Why would they need Diomande then?
 
In normal circumstances I would want Vini to stay because he is scary good when he is inspired and has a functioning ecosystem around him.

But probably because he feels Mbappe is considered the player to build a team around at Madrid (instead of him), he is asking for way more money than Florentino is eager to pay him. He wants to be the star in the team he plays for and I cannot blame him for that.



Too many cooks spoil the broth.

Just curious..
Although unlikely, how do you think Vini will fare in EPL?
 
I'm not very confident it'll happen and it is most likely just a ploy to get Madrid to pay him what he wants (and all the power to him for doing it), but it's hard not to get a little excited by the idea. Even if this doesn't work out it gives me hope for the future if the club are willing to make this level of signing.
The best case is now if he leaves.
If Arsenal pay 150 million Euros then it's win win for everyone.
Mbappe and Vinicious does not work together.
Vini goes to Arsenal and becomes their best paid and biggest star.
Arsenal fans seems excited to get him too.
RM can use the money to sign Rodri and Diamonde. Overall the squad will be more harmonious.
It's a win win for all.
 
In normal circumstances I would want Vini to stay because he is scary good when he is inspired and has a functioning ecosystem around him.

But probably because he feels Mbappe is considered the player to build a team around at Madrid (instead of him), he is asking for way more money than Florentino is eager to pay him. He wants to be the star in the team he plays for and I cannot blame him for that.



Too many cooks spoil the broth.

Thanks. This was going to be my next question about future squad planning. We know Perez loves Olise for instance. The question then becomes does it make sense to tie Vini down for the next 4/5 years on a massive contract, if you want to target another star player Iike Olise in the next year or so?
 
He is more talented than all the midfielders you named individually bar Inesta. He never reached the heights of his talents in the end. Especially when he played for United in his peak whilst others had better players around them.

For a midfielder, he had amazing attributes - strong, tall, good dribbler, explosive burst when dribbling and a killer ball. His downfall is a whole another argument but the point stands he was seen as a big talent and superstar when signed.
That's a bit of a crazy opinion tbh.
 
So you think they are interested in Diomande as his successor, but you also think they will move Mbappe to his position and buy a new forward? Why would they need Diomande then?
They probably buy him to play on the right, Vini on the left, and Mbappe as striker.
 
A couple of questions for @giorno & the other Madrid fans;

Do you actually want Vini to stay? Do you think there's a way Jose can get him, Mbappe, Jude & Diomande to play in the same team in a functioning system?
I'd like him to stay

I think it might be best for everyone if he leaves

Not sure how to make him, Jude and Mbappé coexist at this point. Signing Rodri might be a big help though
Also, if you're up for it, how close to his demands would you be comfortable with the club getting?
don't know enough about the club's finances

I'll say that he's not prime Messi or Cristiano, he's one of the best in the world but shouldn't be too difficult to replace
 
One of the best in the world, not too difficult to replace, best for everyone if he leaves.

Funny summary
 
One of the best in the world, not too difficult to replace, best for everyone if he leaves.

It is Madrid. Their only problem is mostly how to fit all the best players together. I think they wouldnt mind selling Mbappe for crazy fee and leave Vini. They simply dont work together to their best.
 
One of the best in the world, not too difficult to replace, best for everyone if he leaves.

Funny summary
We have Bellingham, Mbappé, Rodrygo and might sign Diomande

Plus Endrick, Guler and Mastantuono

In an ideal world, I'd actually prefer to keep him over Mbappé, but that's not happening
 
I'd like him to stay

I think it might be best for everyone if he leaves

Not sure how to make him, Jude and Mbappé coexist at this point. Signing Rodri might be a big help though

don't know enough about the club's finances

I'll say that he's not prime Messi or Cristiano, he's one of the best in the world but shouldn't be too difficult to replace
Thanks for the insight, that makes a lot of sense.

If any player is capable of joining and knitting together a team from midfield, it’s Rodri.
 
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