Seems an obsession with number 6s number 8s etc etc. What about a defnsive midfielder that is actually godo with the ball b ut positionally intelligent and a battler Bissouma, Fabinho are all good on the ball.
Personally I think there are more supposed defensive midfielder that are technically good enough on the ball to maintain possesion well in the modern game but there arent so many playmakers who are good defensively and Fred certainly isnt one of them.
We simply dont have any central midfielders who are intelligent enough or read the game well enough to play in the double pivot, that is why an ageing Matic was still playing.
Its vital for me personally we sign a midfielder that can win the ball, read the game, fill in holes....and rightly or wrongly I dont see how Ten Hag gets that out of the current options unless its with a youngster.
Usually agree with the vast majority of your posts, I really dotn with this one though. If there is an obession with these types of midfielders, we have a massive talent in Hannibal.
I think DeJOng is godo positionally without the ball, but a midfielder that can defend is important. To be fair I knwo very little of Vintiha, very vaguely remember him coming on for Wolves as had no idea who he was, but didnt know anything of him until the links
Bissouma isn't someone that a team should rely on to be the go to midfielder in the build up phase. He's a conservative player on the ball who from my observation doesn't progress the ball anywhere close to the required level. He's defensively strong and can dribble the ball up-field but his passing in Potter's team was conservative from my observation.
There's midfielders in the game today who are defensively very good, and can retain possession to a good level but they can't progress play like a Frenkie de Jong in the build up phase imo. Bissouma definitely can't do that and i'm sure the statistics would back that up.
And the reason why Matic was still playing, was because bad decisions were made by managers like Mourinho and Solskjaer. Solskjaer should've prioritised the midfield on several occasions but he ended up prioritising the signings of Maguire and AWB in the summer of 2019, and then signed Bruno Fernandes when Pogba was still at the club. We needed a midfielder and the managers kept neglecting the midfield, which meant players like Matic remained being a option for the team.
I don't disagree with you about us needing a positionally disciplined DM. But all i'm saying is that we need players who are going to enhance our play on the ball. We can't control games in possession against teams who we would normally, be expected to beat comfortably. So for me I'd take two mobile midfielders who possess the craft and guile on the ball, which would help connect the defence and attack. I even said before we signed players in the summer of 2019, that we should spend most of our budget on the attack (midfield/forwards) but we signed two players for big money due to our defence leaking too many goals according to Solskjaer. Our budget is reportedly lower now, so i'm of the opinion that spending the bulk of the budget on players who will enhance our play on the ball, is more important than signing a conservative passer like Bissouma. But having said that, it would be nice to see us sign a defensively strong midfielder aswell. But i'm not sure the Glazers will back John Murtough to the extent we fans desire.
I like Hannibal and i'm hoping he does get significant minutes. But it's difficult to say what ten Hag will decide for him for the new season. And he also requires a level of patience, which i'm not sure fans will give him right now. Vitinha is a good example of a player that would've been written off by many of our fans after his failed loan stint at Wolves, but today Vitinha is on his way to PSG.