Where did you get that stat from? Wikipedia says:
What a stupid thing to say. They've scored the same amount of goals in Europe but other than that Zlatan has been the better goalscorer.
I've been standing by the fact that he'd be our in behind the striker man for years to come ever since he was so important in leading us to that 19th title, and nothing changed at the start of last season, but that's really started to change recently and the more time goes on, the more I think he's just going to be more of a goalscorer for us. It's a shame because I really felt he was going to be the best all-round forward in the world and break away from the rest over time, but I just don't see that happening now. He's still a world class striker, yes, but I think there's more of him that we may never see on a consistent basis unfortunately.
It's just so frustrating that he can be like that for us sometimes. All players go off form at times, however his low level seems to be woefully worse than a lot of players are. I'm just hoping that we don't see the likes of his performance tonight for us at all next season, and that he can gradually weed that bottom level out of his game.
Off the top of my head, he's scored at least 5 against Milan, 2 against Roma, one against Barcelona, one against Chelsea. That list is definitely incorrect.Where did you get that stat from? Wikipedia says:
Messi: 26
Ronaldo: 20
Raul: 18
Sheva: 18
Inzaghi: 16
Henry: 12
Morientes: 9
Del Piero: 9
RvN: 6
Where is Rooney?
Nevermind, you said "over the last 6 seasons". But if the above list is correct, he should be below 6 goals. Which isn't much better than Ibra's record.
Same here. I thought Rooney on the ball more was the best for us. But I don't anymore. He messes up a lot of moves for us down to poor touches, lack of ability in tight spaces and inconsistent passes. I want to see players with more technical ability do all the playmaking and Rooney can stick to scoring goals.
I'm starting to agree with that now. He's too frustrating as someone controlling games. One week he can be brilliant, but the next week he'll then have a nightmare in that respect.
Rooney's got 12 in the knockout stages by my count.. so that list is way off.Where did you get that stat from? Wikipedia says:
Messi: 26
Ronaldo: 20
Raul: 18
Sheva: 18
Inzaghi: 16
Henry: 12
Morientes: 9
Del Piero: 9
RvN: 6
Where is Rooney?
Nevermind, you said "over the last 6 seasons". But if the above list is correct, he should be below 6 goals. Which isn't much better than Ibra's record.
I've said this for a few seasons now. Rooneys not consistient enough to play in the hole. When he's in form, he's terrific in that position, but the issue is that Rooneys form is erratic and when he plays badly the attack stalls.
Yeah, he's definitely not a tier above but definitely not below either. Just because he had a poor 2 games doesn't make him shite either. Van Persie was awful in the Euro's. Like I said before, Rooney, Ibra, Aguero and RVP are a level above every other striker out there. Aguero's probably got the most potential out of all of them and will become better but currently they are all about the same.
You most obviously don't watch United regularly if you think that list is anything to go by. Or rather Rooney's omissionWhere did you get that stat from? Wikipedia says:
Messi: 26
Ronaldo: 20
Raul: 18
Sheva: 18
Inzaghi: 16
Henry: 12
Morientes: 9
Del Piero: 9
RvN: 6
Where is Rooney?
Nevermind, you said "over the last 6 seasons". But if the above list is correct, he should be below 6 goals. Which isn't much better than Ibra's record.
Where did you get that stat from? Wikipedia says:
Messi: 26
Ronaldo: 20
Raul: 18
Sheva: 18
Inzaghi: 16
Henry: 12
Morientes: 9
Del Piero: 9
RvN: 6
Where is Rooney?
Nevermind, you said "over the last 6 seasons". But if the above list is correct, he should be below 6 goals. Which isn't much better than Ibra's record.
I would fully agree with you on that, and I'm certainly not trying to argue that he is shite at all. Not at all.
I honestly no longer think its a "low level" thing anymore; its gone on for too long. He's just not the same footballer he once was, he's lost a bit. He's still a very good player, he's just not as world class as he once threatened he'd be.
I can understand where you're coming from. I just think you were always a bit over the top when you first made your point. You actually make some decent points though and quite a few of us were probably a bit too harsh on you.
Zlatan is considered a big game bottler because he's done absolutely nothing of note in the Champions League. Rooney, on the other hand, is the third most consistent goalscorer in the big European matches after the two best players in the world. Any comparison between them when it comes to big matches is utterly absurd.
This. I'm actually glad we have Kagawa coming in giving us another option in terms of playing in the hole.
The thing with Rooney is that it is rare that a defeat in a big game doesn't come when he has had an off day. I can think of very few big matches where the team he was playing on (United or England) have lost and you could say Rooney had a good game, despite the loss. (I'm thinking of the 2011 CL final, and I struggle for other examples).
Cheers Snow... I think you got where I was going.
Thank you.
this!
Considered by who? 3 guys and a hivemind of people who don't watch him? If you watch Zlatan consistently you'll recognize his talents. He's a great player and by no means a bottler.
If you read my comment again you'll see that I specifically refer to him being dispossessed. Not quite the same as giving the ball away.
Didn't his link up with Welbeck create the chance where Danny spooned it over the ba? Rooney was poor though but despite the Joe Hart to Andy Carroll combination in the second half, Rooney stilled looked like the only person who could do something positive going forward. The problem was he had to do it all by himself as Walcott was non-existant, Young dire and Carroll spend half the time passing to the Italiajns defenders.
Exactly. The supply into him and Welbeck was very poor.
No. He would have done one good thing in an otherwise terrible performance. Noone's expecting him to do all those things. He isn't even capable of that. People are just pointing out that he was poor rather than calling him a poor player.
You stick up for "our talisman" while the rest of us just give our genuine opinions. He was very poor. It doesn't have any bearing on him as a player but it is true nonetheless.
Probably not but how many players in world football in his position/role would you swap him for?
