Yeah would have been a nice addition, but no problem we go with @crappycraperson on it.
WC All Stars Chain Draft - It has begun!
- Thread starter crappycraperson
- Start date
@crappycraperson the final for the Pre Premier League draft is tomorrow. Is it possible to get the drafting order to so we can plan/research accordingly?
Bump. I was thinking that instead of having a random pick order we can do a blind bid for the positions in the draft. The bids to be in the form of breaks you want to have and restrictions.
Breaks - 0 to 3.
Winners allowed in team - 5 to 7
Maximum players from one continent - 5 to 7.
So every one will PM me their "bid" to get the first place in the draft in the following form -
Breaks - 2, Winners in team - 6, Maximum players from one continent - 7
Essentially the best bid to get the first place is one with the lowest sum of 3 numbers, that is one with the least breaks and heavier restrictions (lesser numbers of winners and players from one continent allowed). If there is a tie in the sum then we randomise.
All bids will be final which means whatever you choose will be your restricitions throughout the draft. (Breaks only relevant for initial drafting)
(I will PM my bid to someone neutral first and he can relay the same on the thread as a proof when everyone has submitted)
Breaks - 0 to 3.
Winners allowed in team - 5 to 7
Maximum players from one continent - 5 to 7.
So every one will PM me their "bid" to get the first place in the draft in the following form -
Breaks - 2, Winners in team - 6, Maximum players from one continent - 7
Essentially the best bid to get the first place is one with the lowest sum of 3 numbers, that is one with the least breaks and heavier restrictions (lesser numbers of winners and players from one continent allowed). If there is a tie in the sum then we randomise.
All bids will be final which means whatever you choose will be your restricitions throughout the draft. (Breaks only relevant for initial drafting)
(I will PM my bid to someone neutral first and he can relay the same on the thread as a proof when everyone has submitted)
Getting more complex by the day.
Something simpler like only one player allowed per WC edition in any picking order you want (non chain basically) might make life easier.
Something simpler like only one player allowed per WC edition in any picking order you want (non chain basically) might make life easier.
You should clarify on continents and the World Cup loops beforehand then @crappycraperson
i like that is complex tbh, the tougher the better IMO
and tbh it really isnt that difficult, the pool is huge and the restrictions are pretty much irrelevant as even without them most teams would fall under those limits.
and tbh it really isnt that difficult, the pool is huge and the restrictions are pretty much irrelevant as even without them most teams would fall under those limits.
I would. It is on my list. Loop would depend on if folks agree on the above system.
For continent - the issue is only with Russia and Turkey ..right?
Just randomize it no need for that
Not quite the case. Polaroid had similar restrictions the last time and it was not that simple to form your team. The one player per WC bit is on top of these and would complicate it a bit more. Chain stuff too.
This is not final, I won't do it if people don't want it. By the way no new restrictions are being added. I am just using previous ones for this system. It is a one time thing where you place your bid, that's about itJust decide something crappy!
chain stuff makes it difficult, but i like it that way
Let some other folks chime in and then I will finalise it.
crappy you decide, no point on waiting everyone to respond and in fairness most of us are up for anything so what ever you decide most of the groovy gang will be fine with it.
Probably, can't think of another country. There is also USSR/current countries issue. For example Ukraine in today's status is only an European country but as a part of the USSR it's Europe and Asia
I would've gone with a randomiser but I'm okay with the nominations idea
Getting tedious...
Agree
I'm up for anything. My personal choice would be a simple randomizer or PM starting position
@crappycraperson just run it as close to normal as possible
@crappycraperson i am ok either way.
I liked the idea @P-Nut0712 had on Pm’ing starting positions to add the additional complexity. Your idea is also fine
I liked the idea @P-Nut0712 had on Pm’ing starting positions to add the additional complexity. Your idea is also fine
Crappy idea is tactically very interesting. Lots of difficult choices for the manager. Perhaps it's just that most want to start drafting immediately, that works against it. If we had that idea couple of days befibe, I'm sure it's work well.
Yeah.. It can still work though.. If most people are ok with it, we should just pm a neutral.
I would prefer a randomiser but will go with the majority.
Regarding the blind bids. Seeing as it will be worked out by the lowest total of numbers there’s a fair chance multiple people will have the same total. Then we’re just going to end up having to randomise some of them anyway.
Regarding the blind bids. Seeing as it will be worked out by the lowest total of numbers there’s a fair chance multiple people will have the same total. Then we’re just going to end up having to randomise some of them anyway.
Id say randomizer but if we go with bids lets sort that out soon
Bloody hell.. some of you are grumpy lot. So many vanilla drafts go on here year around, no harm in giving something new a try.
Let's try this new system. I will send every one who is participating a PM for their bid. Will send my own PM to @KM
Let's try this new system. I will send every one who is participating a PM for their bid. Will send my own PM to @KM
Let's do it!
@harms
Loops are allowed that is 2014 to 1930 won't count as a break and similary 1930 to 2014 would not.
Continent wise - Russia and USSR count as part of Europe, as does Turkey.
Loops are allowed that is 2014 to 1930 won't count as a break and similary 1930 to 2014 would not.
Continent wise - Russia and USSR count as part of Europe, as does Turkey.
I fully appreciate you’re trying to change things up and I think that’s great. I just don’t want things to be changed just because they can and rather that they add something to the draft.
I’ve no problem with giving it a go but just have a feeling that the short number parameters are going to mean there will be a randomiser anyway.
Position Bidding
Essentially everyone is bidding for the first place.
Following restrictions are in play for bids
So every one will PM me their "bid" to get the first place in the draft in the following form -
Evaluation process -
All bids will be final which means whatever you choose will be your restricitions throughout the draft. (Breaks only relevant for initial drafting)
(I am scrapping 13th round as a result of this process. Rules updated in OP)
Essentially everyone is bidding for the first place.
Following restrictions are in play for bids
- Breaks - 0 to 3.
- Winners allowed in team - 5 to 7
- Maximum players from one continent - 5 to 7.
So every one will PM me their "bid" to get the first place in the draft in the following form -
Everyone has to submit a bid.
Evaluation process -
- The best bid to get the first place is one with the lowest sum of 3 numbers, that is one with the least breaks and heavier restrictions (lesser numbers of winners and players from one continent allowed).
- If there is a tie in the sum then it will be resolved as follows
- Manager who bid lower breaks would win
- If number of breaks are same then the manager who bed less number of players from one continent would win
- If even that is same then we would randomise amongst the managers involved.
All bids will be final which means whatever you choose will be your restricitions throughout the draft. (Breaks only relevant for initial drafting)
(I am scrapping 13th round as a result of this process. Rules updated in OP)
Let's see. Even if that is the case nothing is actually changing in normal drafting process. This is a one and done thing.
PM sent to all managers.
Submitted
Bids can't be change one submitted unless they are invalid
submitted my bid to @KM
@crappycraperson if you are playing in the draft you shouldn't be taking anyone's bids
@crappycraperson if you are playing in the draft you shouldn't be taking anyone's bids
I've no idea what's happening here but happy to take the "bids".
Submitted but really had no idea whatsoever why I was submitting that.
You only have my bid as a proof that I submitted mine before anyone else did
Why?
I submitted mine to KM before sending PMs to anyone. Send your bid to me.
Oh alright!You only have my bid as a proof that I submitted mine before anyone else did