Difference between pot 1 and 23 points against Leicester and we can play the kids in the Europa for all I care!
And a trophy
Difference between pot 1 and 23 points against Leicester and we can play the kids in the Europa for all I care!
I'd love to see some kids in the next leg with our lead regardless to be honest and be happy with a point too3 points against Leicester and we can play the kids in the Europa for all I care!
Quoting as this needs a little more awareness. Our record then is 9-8-8. As of now its 17-12-8. Thats 8 wins and 4 draws in our last 12 matches.
In the context of Redcafe pre season conversations and expectations, it will be an amazing over achievement. I hope everyone remembers that if we pull it off.Win our last game we finish 3rd. Draw it and we can't finish lower than 4th.
From the disastrous first 4 months of the season we'd have taken that all day long.
It’s their biggest game for a generation and it’s a tight group who’ve been on a journey so I imagine they will be so motivated by it. They will want it more than Chelsea.Wolves look like they can clinch 5th place if they win at Stamford Bridge. Big ask but good they’ve got something to play for.
Hoping they can pull out a result as we look really shaky.
Unfortunately got my sums wrong, doesn’t look like Wolves can clinch 5th, highest they can finish is 6thIt’s their biggest game for a generation and it’s a tight group who’ve been on a journey so I imagine they will be so motivated by it. They will want it more than Chelsea.
Imagine if they win and so do we, Chelsea would drop to 6th!
Chelsea would remain 4th in that case.It’s their biggest game for a generation and it’s a tight group who’ve been on a journey so I imagine they will be so motivated by it. They will want it more than Chelsea.
Imagine if they win and so do we, Chelsea would drop to 6th!
The lowest total points we gained was 2013/2014 with 64 points which got us 7th. So if we get a draw on a Sunday we equal that. I'm talking since the Premier League started.Don't think so ? We were before Christmas but went on a nuts run then, unlikely we still are
Now I’ve calmed down a bit it is such an amazing turnaround. We had no chance really. Bruno boosted everyone and the Covid break let us bring Marcus and Pogba back into the fold. The only thing is as pants as Leicester are I think the wheels are really starting to come off here too. I think it’ll be a draw. It’s been a while since we’ve had a really convincing performance and they will fancy their chances and really go for us. Early goal and it’s squeaky bum timeLet’s be positive
Who would have taken 3rd going into the last day of the season on January 23rd 2020?
We were 14 points off Leicester and we had just lost 2-0 at home to Burnley.
A draw will be fine by meNow I’ve calmed down a bit it is such an amazing turnaround. We had no chance really. Bruno boosted everyone and the Covid break let us bring Marcus and Pogba back into the fold. The only thing is as pants as Leicester are I think the wheels are really starting to come off here too. I think it’ll be a draw. It’s been a while since we’ve had a really convincing performance and they will fancy their chances and really go for us. Early goal and it’s squeaky bum time
Wow thats some recovery. Hopefully we get the job done. If we end up the season on 3rd we deserve all the praise.
get in by any means necessary!A draw will be fine by me
Yeah. got my math all wrong.Chelsea would remain 4th in that case.
A draw matches the Moyes seasonDon't think so ? We were before Christmas but went on a nuts run then, unlikely we still are
At last, someone speaking sense! The current TV deal means that all 20 PL teams are in the top 30 in Europe, in terms of income. That means that the bottom half clubs have been able to strengthen their squad and that the gap between the top and bottom clubs, in terms of income and points accrued, is less than in SAF's time.It's because you cant compare points totals across seasons like so many people do here. If the bottom of the league is crap as was the case during 2000 to 2010 then it artificially inflates the point totals of the top sides. Literally you had a ton of teams just bending over for the big clubs and you didn't really have to fight for the right to play in every match. Now you have stronger teams throughout the table that has come about with the increased PL financial power relative to the rest of Europe.
If they hadn't screwed up we would still be 5th at the very best so I'm not sure what your point is? We could have done it, but we were not able to just like they could have not slipped? The situation is what it is right now and not ifs and butsWe should be third with a 6 points lead. We'd be fecked if both chelsea and leicester hadn't screwed up twice!
What im saying is that we've already bottled it and if we weren't lucky we'd be out of contention for CL.If they hadn't screwed up we would still be 5th at the very best so I'm not sure what your point is? We could have done it, but we were not able to just like they could have not slipped? The situation is what it is right now and not ifs and buts
It certainly is this year, look at all the draws. But there's some ropey teams in this League. We were genuinely one of them at the time of the Burnley loss imo.At last, someone speaking sense! The current TV deal means that all 20 PL teams are in the top 30 in Europe, in terms of income. That means that the bottom half clubs have been able to strengthen their squad and that the gap between the top and bottom clubs, in terms of income and points accrued, is less than in SAF's time.
Nope.Feck Chelsea. They have pretty much secured top 4 haven't they?
Feck them I hope we'll finish 3rd.
Umm points don't equate to quality. We won in 1999 on 79 points and both us and Arsenal were strong that year.The lowest total points we gained was 2013/2014 with 64 points which got us 7th. So if we get a draw on a Sunday we equal that. I'm talking since the Premier League started.
Goes to show how poor the other teams were around us.
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thats what a Perreira, Mata, Lingard midfield gets you.Just a reminder of what the table looked like at the start of december
Err yeh but thats beside my point. That season 3rd place ended up with 75 pts.Umm points don't equate to quality. We won in 1999 on 79 points and both us and Arsenal were strong that year.
I dont know about Newcastle but I think Burnley and Sheffield United are in the top 10 in most seasons since 2000. They are both well managed and drilled.It certainly is this year, look at all the draws. But there's some ropey teams in this League. We were genuinely one of them at the time of the Burnley loss imo.
Do you really think Burnley, Newcastle, Sheff Utd are decent teams? Arsenal are a mess. The bottom 4 are possibly 2-3 players better than a fair few relegated teams during SAFs peak years. Above that there are mainly stockpiles of expensive players who haven't resembled a team much, those that aren't being managed well for half the year or more, or the overachievers, in patches mainly.
The idea this League has a load of strong teams I just don't believe. It possibly ought to be better than it is - us, Tottenham, Everton, West Ham ought to be better with their players. But City with a decent CB pair don't lose 9 games like they have. And they're still easily 2nd. This is a soft League 19/20. Utds 18 match run based on the recruitment of 1 player ought to tell us that.
As I stated before, with the PL income having massively increased especially for mid and lower table teams, there are better players throughout the table now than in prior seasons (thinking pre 2012). I mean if you look at Wolves, I don't think you can find a single team outside the top 6 since 2000 that has the level of investment and quality like them.Err yeh but thats beside my point. That season 3rd place ended up with 75 pts.
We soon to be playing the last game of the season and we 3rd place with just 63 points. If we win we will just have beaten our lowest pt total by 2 and achieved third place.
That has to do with quality, all other teams fighting dropping consistent points. Regardless of how you look at it, its to do with quality of the middle to lower teams maybe doing much better or top teams being poor.