The only thing Calvert-Lewin is good at carrying is a bloody injury and his sick note.
Unfortunately Toney is too expensive and that coupled with his expected wages rules him out.
We need a striker.
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Unfortunately Toney is too expensive and that coupled with his expected wages rules him out.
This is just like the "what about Martial and Greenwood?" comments from back in 2019 when we almost signed Haaland. We cannot avoid signing obvious upgrades to protect lesser players. That's the problem with buying players like Hojlund and Zirkzee. They're good, but you can't trust them to provide enough goals (at least not yet) and they need to make room if a markee signing comes in. That's just how it is.
I'm a bit scepticle to Toney though. Is he good for the group?
I agree but Toney isn't a guy you sign, that will hinder the development of a pair of strikers that cost nearly £100m. If the feeling, is that we need a striker, then to me that puts into question the Zirkzee signing. I don't know if they are good enough but I'm fine going into the season with Hojlund and Zirkzee as our main no.9 options.
It's also too early to determine that we need another striker in my opinion. Hojlund is injured and Zirkzee hasn't started a game yet.
It wouldnt because Zirkzee is only 23 and im sure we want him long term. Theres nothing wrong with options.
Similar to the arguments we had of why are we signing RVP, when we already had Rooney, Welbeck and Hernandez
I just don't see how signing Toney would be wise squad management as I don't think he will come cheap, nor will he happy to sit on the bench. It would also puts into question why we spent so much money on Zirkzee (and Hojlund) in the first place.
RVP was a world class striker and none of Rooney, Welbeck or Hernandez were recent big money signings - RVP was a short term signing, but he was a short term signing for us to try and win the league.
Okay so Sesko is not it (yet). We need someone who is clinical and has a smell for goals. Zirkzee will leave this January and I can’t think of one striker available in the market who is clinical and available.
It won’t make a difference. The xG was 0.81 tonight against the worst team in premier league history.
Sesko has scored 2 goals from an xG of 2.7. As other posters have said, we don't create enough for strikers to score. Haven't for years.
There's a distinct lack of pace in the team as well. A rapid left winger who can create chances for our strikers wouldn't go amiss.
Which is the actual issue
I think we do need another attacker. But midfield should be the priority. We had no control of that game especially in the first half. A better midfield would allow us to sustain attacks.
xG doesn’t mean what you think it does, it is also impacted by the fact he can’t create his own chances. Yes, other players can set up good opportunities, but Sesko is always one step behind in his touch or having that edge to create his own chances. He seems to run into players and he seems like his is ice skating when the ball is near him.
Signing striker for Amorim is a waste of money. He likes less striker to attack better. 
Signing striker for Amorim is a waste of money. He likes less striker to attack better.
That’s clearly not what he meant but go on with your interpretation to suit what you want to hear.
Sorry if I hurts your feeling. It must have been tough after last night game.
Any news on that striker from Mali coming to the club in the summer?
Looks like he could be a real bargain bucket signing which should come in handy as we are going to have to spend our budget to fix up our horrendous midfield.
Looks like he could be a real bargain bucket signing which should come in handy as we are going to have to spend our budget to fix up our horrendous midfield.
It's a tough market out there for strikers. We should go for a cheap, short term signing to take the pressure off Sesko. Hell, even an Ighalo or a Weghorst off the bench would be handy right now.
I can't see Zirzkee being allowed to leave without a replacement being lined up.
We should have signed Calvert Lewin in the summer.
Someone like Garnacho or even Rashford?
I didn't want to say it
For all his limitations, his pace and directness is something we are missing on the left especially if we play a 433/4321
We could sign Harlaand and still struggle. The system isn't good enough in the PL and doesn't create good chances. The stats don't tell the real story and our poor goal threat is so obvious when you watch us.
We are going to keep throwing good players out to keep Amorim - who is fecking useless. The club needs to grow a pair and boot him out before we sell or sign another player for him.
We are going to keep throwing good players out to keep Amorim - who is fecking useless. The club needs to grow a pair and boot him out before we sell or sign another player for him.
Midfield first. We are really desperate for a semi competent midfielder, have been all season.
I feel it's almost not worth getting another striker while we play with the type of wide forwards that we do that constantly want to score themselves. Chances created by the wide players for the striker a very few and far between.
That's gotta be priority No1,2,3.
Having central midfielders who can control the tempo and retain possession would instantly make a huge difference. Yesterdays game was crying out for some to take control, increase the speed and urgency of our game.
Also agree with @Ciddy, we need to do what arsenal do and city do, value the assist as much as the goal. Both teams are excellent at getting to byline and cutting it back for a teammate. Whereas we will try to shoot from unrealistic angles.
Signing striker for Amorim is a waste of money. He likes less striker to attack better.
Garry Neville will love this ..
Change thread title to We need a manager.
Totally agree. I’ve been saying for a while now that we do not play for a striker.
Unless we get a complete alpha personality who absolutely tears into the midfielders in the locker room for not getting him the ball, it’s absolutely pointless with the way we play at the moment.
We need a LWB, 1 or 2 CM and a striker. And not mere squad options or young projects either but ready to go proper class
If true, awesome news. That would reduce what we spent for the experiment to around two thirds.
Definitely. That was one thing that I had hopes for Amorim to resolve - he came with the reputation, that he was setting up his team to create as good as possibles chances for their main striker. Different leagues and different players of course. But I agree, a clearer distinction might benefit everybody involved.
I think somebody like Jimenez from Fulham would be perfect.
Oh Garnacho? Yes. The guy who runs down the wing and doesn’t pass. Brilliant thinking man!
And rashford the guy who slumped around here. Are you a professional scout?
Not when he runs down the flank and just shoots into oblivion. Are you guys so traumatized you’ve forgotten? This is like finding out your ex was a serial killer so you miss the serial cheater who was a terrible personI didn't want to say it
For all his limitations, his pace and directness is something we are missing on the left especially if we play a 433/4321
Well what he said makes sense. We had no control over midfield and holding the ball and he didn’t think Zirkzee did that.
Way too low of a fee. Should have been a goals clause as well. Thought we created the most chances in the league previously in the season.
I thought Dominic Calvert lewin before the season started. Now it’s fleet it’s gotta be Harry Kane!
United have created more chances than any other PL team this season.
That Sesko isn’t getting on the end of them is as likely to be a him problem, as a system one.
Looked at source and walked straight on
Looking at strikers who are out of contract this summer...
Wonder if we would go for vlahovic from juventus. Similar in height and build to Sesko. 64 goals in 162 games and 16 assists during his juventus career. Only 25 and out of contract this summer.
Lewandowski is out of contract this summer but is 37. However if you want Sesko to learn from the very best. Bring him in for a year.
Icardi (32), Benzema (38), Muller (36), Dybala (32), Wellbeck (36), Jimenez (34), are all out of contract this summer. However like Lewandowski they are the wrong side of 30 for INEOS transfer policy. Which is why Vlahovic makes sense to me. Though he has no PL experience unlike Jimenez or Wellbeck.
Wonder if we would go for vlahovic from juventus. Similar in height and build to Sesko. 64 goals in 162 games and 16 assists during his juventus career. Only 25 and out of contract this summer.
Lewandowski is out of contract this summer but is 37. However if you want Sesko to learn from the very best. Bring him in for a year.
Icardi (32), Benzema (38), Muller (36), Dybala (32), Wellbeck (36), Jimenez (34), are all out of contract this summer. However like Lewandowski they are the wrong side of 30 for INEOS transfer policy. Which is why Vlahovic makes sense to me. Though he has no PL experience unlike Jimenez or Wellbeck.
Quality strikers have dried up.
Someone like chicarito was a very, very good striker in his day but a level or two below the very best, today would probably be like the 4th best striker in the world.
Someone like chicarito was a very, very good striker in his day but a level or two below the very best, today would probably be like the 4th best striker in the world.
He'd be way too costly wouldn't he? Also is there really a point to bring in a player who then expects to be a starter? No matter how good of an idea it was to go down the "inexperienced striker" route, we did and we paid good money on the potential the player might bring. I don't really see how he is expected to fulfill that if he doesn't play on a regular basis. We should bring in another striker but only for a secondary option role and preferably a very cost-effective one considering where we really have to invest heavily.
Mateta was awful against Spurs. Think hes a decent player but on current form not sure he'd be better than Sesko despite the age difference