We need a striker.

This is the problem with only having one striker at a time. When Hojlund or Sesko are having a rough time of it and lack confidence, you have no choice but to keep playing them.

How have a club like Manchester United only had one striker for 3 seasons in a row?
 
NewGlory said:
Saying "no" twice doesn't make you right.

Bitching and moaning about how he doesn't get enough service is laughable. He got good 3-4 chances in this game alone. And he made mockery of all of them.

This notion some in our fanbase have that nobody is allowed to shoot, everybody needs to supply Sesko is laughable. Striker cannot be the only person shooting. Opposition defenders will just neutralize him and game over.

Sesko does get enough chances, and he should be getting into better positions to get even more. He is just total shit - not using chances he does get and having almost zero poaching abilities
Click to expand...

The laughable thing is calling somebody shit if we’re being honest.

He’s been okay. First few months in arguably the toughest league in the world and now playing in a team missing almost an entire midfield and their entire attack bar Cunha. Certainly hasn’t been shit. There can be an in between without somebody being utter shit or sensational. Stop being dramatic.
 
Let's not pretend we have took a profilic goalscorer and blunted him. He wasnt profilic in the BL either
 
JP77 said:
The laughable thing is calling somebody shit if we’re being honest.

He’s been okay. First few months in arguably the toughest league in the world and now playing in a team missing almost an entire midfield and their entire attack bar Cunha. Certainly hasn’t been shit. There can be an in between without somebody being utter shit or sensational. Stop being dramatic.
Click to expand...
Got it. He is your third cousin
 
Šeško isn't bad striker. But we needed proven quality. That is why Watkins was better deal. Sometimes, just sometimes you must invest in someone for that moment, not always for the future.

Having said that, i think Sesko will become good signing.
 
quadrant said:
He had 2 big chances today, both off target. It’s wrong to suggest he’s living off scraps here.
Click to expand...
They’re not the kind of chances that a striker is certain to score. Look at the one Leeds had today, he’s not had a single shot like that all season. You could say the Spurs one, which was unlucky that he was facing the fastest central defender in football.

I will admit that lots of these half chances are adding up, and that it’s also not great that they’re not even hitting the target, but I’d suggest that if you look at his xG, it’s woefully low for the amount of shots taken. Which suggests that they aren’t high quality chances.
 
Dan_F said:
They’re not the kind of chances that a striker is certain to score. Look at the one Leeds had today, he’s not had a single shot like that all season. You could say the Spurs one, which was unlucky that he was facing the fastest central defender in football.

I will admit that lots of these half chances are adding up, and that it’s also not great that they’re not even hitting the target, but I’d suggest that if you look at his xG, it’s woefully low for the amount of shots taken. Which suggests that they aren’t high quality chances.
Click to expand...
He had combined xG today of 0.74 from 3 chances. I’d at least expect him to get a shot on target from that, as a minimum.
 
We are in need of a striker, not a top player, just someone that behaves hungry. Sesko might get there in time but doubt it’ll be any time soon. Hojlund is an interesting one for me because I like his chaos and we don’t have him around to compete with Sesko, which wasn’t a not so smart one by the club. Obi the young lad is nowhere in development and kinda similar to Sesko which also doesn’t help.

It seems this club deliberately put the brakes on to frustrate the fans. Just that extra body of a striker will make a massive difference.

Zirkzee I will never consider a striker and should start considering teams with lesser ambitions.
 
quadrant said:
He had combined xG today of 0.74 from 3 chances. I’d at least expect him to get a shot on target from that, as a minimum.
Click to expand...
I literally said in my post it’s not great that none went on target. Before the Wolves game, his xG for the whole season was 3, so it’s a positive sign that there’s more happening for him, I’m not surprised that this has coincided with a run in the first 11 and not taking him off after 60 minutes.
 
Think were making the mistake of putting young players in who are just too inexperienced, your asking young lads to step in probably the most scrutinised and pressured position in the team and probably the league (media focus).

It's all well buying potential and talent, but we need to appreciate mental toughness and experience too.

I don't think Sesko is helped by the lack of quality in wide positions, due to Amad and Mbuemo missing and no real creativity at Lwb.

We have that many priority's in the team to strengthen , I can't help but think a Calvert Lewin type wouldn't of been bad as a cheap option to let a young striker like Sesko ease in, rather than destroying his confidence before he's started.

Yes I realise he's snatching at chances, as well as also not getting put through enough when he makes runs
 
Sesko is not ready to lead the line at all. Especially with our current tactics and the "service" afforded to him.

We need to bring in a more experienced striker to compete for spots and send Zirkzee away for good.

Maybe a new manager with better attacking tactics would make a difference.
 
Dan_F said:
I literally said in my post it’s not great that none went on target. Before the Wolves game, his xG for the whole season was 3, so it’s a positive sign that there’s more happening for him, I’m not surprised that this has coincided with a run in the first 11 and not taking him off after 60 minutes.
Click to expand...
The point you originally made was that he didn’t have a half chance, which is what I’m referring to.
 
quadrant said:
The point you originally made was that he didn’t have a half chance, which is what I’m referring to.
Click to expand...
Nowhere in my post did I say that he didn’t have a half chance. I said he hasn’t had a chance like the Leeds goal, and also that the half chances missed are adding up.
 
Dan_F said:
Why would a post I made at half time before any of his half chances be relevant to this :lol: After full time I stated in my next post that the half chances today added up and he should do better.

Did you expect me to predict the future at half time?
Click to expand...
Tbf, he's done you there pal


You gonna have that?
 
Dan_F said:
Why would a post I made at half time before any of his half chances be relevant to this :lol: After full time I stated in my next post that the half chances today added up and he should do better.

Did you expect me to predict the future at half time?
Click to expand...
Since you've seemingly forgotten... your post was made as a response to a point I had made, which is that we needed a striker able to finish half chances. You made the point that he hadn't had a half chance. When two came and then went, your suggestion was proven wrong by events.
 
quadrant said:
Since you've seemingly forgotten... your post was made as a response to a point I had made, which is that we needed a striker able to finish half chances. You made the point that he hadn't had a half chance. When two came and then went, your suggestion was proven wrong by events.
Click to expand...
Yes and I literally owned up to that in my next post following the game, which you seemingly ignored.

“I will admit that lots of these half chances are adding up, and that it’s also not great that they’re not even hitting the target”

Can you not see that at the point of me replying to your first post, why I felt it unfair for you to call out Sesko when he hadn’t had a sniff of chance for the whole first half?
 
I may be in the minority but I see sesko as doing ok. But he does need to work on his finishing.

But he links up, holds the ball, we just have no support around him, cunha and dorgu tried today but the mf doesn't help. We need real box to box machines for defence and MF to function.
 
His link up play and hold up play was pretty good today, especially when Zirkzee came on. He seems really timid at times and really needs a goal for his confidence.
 
I just don't think he scares defenders. So many of them put him in their pocket.
 
daveskimufc said:
I may be in the minority but I see sesko as doing ok. But he does need to work on his finishing.

But he links up, holds the ball, we just have no support around him, cunha and dorgu tried today but the mf doesn't help. We need real box to box machines for defence and MF to function.
Click to expand...
I think Sesko is doing ok. I did think we should have bought Calvert Lewin on a free in the summer though.
 
Sesko does some things well, but the most important things (as far as strikers go) poorly. He cannot finish off a chance to save his life.

Once everyone has returned, and assuming we don't bring in new players this month, we should finish out the season with something like this:

........................Mbeumo..........................
.................................................................
Cunha...............Mount...................Amad
.................................................................
............Casemiro.......Bruno....................
.................................................................
Shaw.........Licha......de Ligt.............Maz
.................................................................
.......................Lammens.........................

Our best chance of scoring will always be when someone other than Sesko is on the field.
 
Todd said:
Sesko does some things well, but the most important things (as far as strikers go) poorly. He cannot finish off a chance to save his life.

Once everyone has returned, and assuming we don't bring in new players this month, we should finish out the season with something like this:

........................Mbeumo..........................
.................................................................
Cunha...............Mount...................Amad
.................................................................
............Casemiro.......Bruno....................
.................................................................
Shaw.........Licha......de Ligt.............Maz
.................................................................
.......................Lammens.........................

Our best chance of scoring will always be when someone other than Sesko is on the field.
Click to expand...
We spent €75m on a striker that’s a huge investment. I’m confident he’ll thrive under the next manager in a more attacking setup. We need to use the money for midfield
 
UnofficialDevil said:
We spent €75m on a striker that’s a huge investment. I’m confident he’ll thrive under the next manager in a more attacking setup. We need to use the money for midfield
Click to expand...

I don't think we should cut our losses or anything, I just think he should be in a reserve role. He was never up for it to begin with. It's actually truly embarrassing that we went through the Hojlund fiasco and learned absolutely nothing and made the same mistake once again.
 
We 100% should have gone for Watkins as he’s PL proven and 4 or 5 good years from him would have been worth the money, could have even signed DCL on a free as back too which all in total would have been cheaper than Sesko.

It’s all good buying players with potential from a position of power as City have done over the years but in our situation we need players approaching or at the start of their prime rather than potential or past their prime.
 
Well, barring a big surprise, we are not bringing in any new striker(s) in January.
So we’re stuck with what we have.

What baffles me, is despite Utd not being able to put the ball the net and squandering chances almost every game, somehow we have the 3rd most goals scored in the PL so far this season !


.
 
davidmichael said:
We 100% should have gone for Watkins as he’s PL proven and 4 or 5 good years from him would have been worth the money, could have even signed DCL on a free as back too which all in total would have been cheaper than Sesko.

It’s all good buying players with potential from a position of power as City have done over the years but in our situation we need players approaching or at the start of their prime rather than potential or past their prime.
Click to expand...

DCL has had 6 decent games in 5 years. Watkins only really started playing well last week. Thiago at Brentford, Ekitike, both having good runs, compared to Isak who was PL proven.

A lot of the time it's not about being PL proven, it's more about signing the right players, with the right attitude and personality at the right time.

Genuinely would have been better off just keeping Hojlund and having him and Sesko as striker options.
 
Sesko is snatching at chances ATM. Pressure being to him methinks.
He has a great touch, can hold it up and is pacy enough but he's not a goal sniffer..... an upgrade on Rasmus but jeeze.... if we had a real finisher we'd be in the top four....no doubt.
Cunha has been great but he exhausts me watching him.... over complicates and tries to beat too many players. But at least he's a worker.... and leaves very little out there.
Where do Bournemouth find the Kroupi's of this world?? There's a kid who knows where the net is.... he doesn't start for whatever reason but wow.... he has quality.
Maybe RA is right... what's the scouting Dept at?
 
davidmichael said:
We 100% should have gone for Watkins as he’s PL proven and 4 or 5 good years from him would have been worth the money, could have even signed DCL on a free as back too which all in total would have been cheaper than Sesko.

It’s all good buying players with potential from a position of power as City have done over the years but in our situation we need players approaching or at the start of their prime rather than potential or past their prime.
Click to expand...
Ideally we would have gotten Watkins and Sesko, shipping out Zirkzee with Højlund.

Having said that, Watkins has been pretty shite this season and only recently hit a bit of form. Villa's mega run was in spite of his poor form, not because of it. I think he's only got like 7 goals in 20 games, which isn't very impressive at all.

Anyway, this idea we'd be sitting pretty in a UCL spot with Watkins instead of Sesko is pretty ludicrous.
 
Andycoleno9 said:
Šeško isn't bad striker. But we needed proven quality. That is why Watkins was better deal. Sometimes, just sometimes you must invest in someone for that moment, not always for the future.

Having said that, i think Sesko will become good signing.
Click to expand...
Exactly we needed to go down proven route, however because INEOS are bozos and all about resale they opted for potential instead which was wrong idea
 
Last edited:
Thiago from Brentford could be a good option in the summer, I saw somewhere that he’s on course to score 20 goals this season.
 
It's not even about Sesko's quality it's the obvious matter that we should not rely on one striker, especially a young unproven one. The fact we've done it twice is ridiculous.

Given the range of squad overhaul needed perhaps it's unreasonable and we simply didn't have the money but still.
 
Smores said:
It's not even about Sesko's quality it's the obvious matter that we should not rely on one striker, especially a young unproven one. The fact we've done it twice is ridiculous.

Given the range of squad overhaul needed perhaps it's unreasonable and we simply didn't have the money but still.
Click to expand...
A squad option striker would be a great addition. West Ham for example are adding two strikers to their books in January. One of them Pablo Felipe is a 21 year old old school bruiser ala Diego Costa. He might not having the finishing ability of a Diego Costa, but being a physical handful for the defenders and someone you can ping the ball into and play off, can be enough. Dugarry for France, Giourd for various teams. Neither prolific strikers, but others can play off them.

I don't see why we couldnt find a cheap option like a Pablo Felipe for Utd

Personally in the summer I wouldn't mind Dusan Vlahovic on a free. Very similar to Sesko, so you could rest either without having to disrupt your method of attacking play too much. Plus Vlahovic is 25 and would have a sell on value of it didn't work out.

We need strength in depth and we need to use the free transfer market better than we currently do

​

 
We swapped one striker who needed to learn how to play in the premier league for another one with the exact same issue.

It doesn' even matter if you think one can make it while the other could not. The problem is throwing people in with no backup and thinking it was a sensible move. It was idiotic and no one involved in the desicion should be still at the club.

Now I hope we switch formations and play 2 up top, so hes not trying to learn how to do the job in this league on his own. I think getting bruno further forward will help him a lot too.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.