Mr.Ridiculous__
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Ole is a horrendous manager and we aren't winning anything with him. This team will raise our hopes and optimism and then like clockwork dash them to the ground.
Not even closeEasily the worst thread of the year,
They played well and obviously I’ve never seen them play before so you could be right but we let them playYou can’t really account for what Lingard did though? Otherwise it would have been a decent point. They played the game of their lives.
Aren’t making mistakes down to lack of mental toughness?we were seconds away from getting a point until Lingard's brain fart
Against the mighty Young Boys, no less.We would have come away with a point if not for a shocking individual mistake?
Watch YB get spanked by villareal and atlanta.Our opponents always play the game of their lives if we lose, according to some of you lot. You dispatch these clowns. You would say the same for Newcastle if we dropped points. They were average as they come, but we were utter shit and pathetic.
Me too. Today is the day that did it for me. He is not good enough to take us to the next step.I was team Ole until today. This was embarrassing. No composure, no plan, no heart and no brain.
They can be upset but need a bit of context.People have a right to be upset.
We just upset by a Swiss team called young boys if this was Liverpool we'd be laughing our heads off.
The point would have just papered over cracks. That performance is not acceptable for a team of our stature and squad. It looked like we were 2 men down.We would have come away with a point if not for a shocking individual mistake?
It was poor going forward, no doubt, but we were resolute.Do you think not even having a shot against Young boys with 10 men is poor? Maybe to do with subs or poor coaching/tactics?
To me, accepting that shocking performance/result on a red card, deflection and error is pretty naive.
Get rid of the trial-trio.Starts with the manager.
You're probably right, which is a sad indictment of the caf, as this thread is complete nonsense.Not even close
You're tarnishing the entire squad because of a mistake from Lingard?Aren’t making mistakes down to lack of mental toughness?
Or they are game raising when playing the mighty Manchester United.It really is mental how often teams play really well against us and look shite against other teams. It’s because we are incapable of keeping the ball.
Were you expecting us to dominate the game with 10 men in the fecking champions league? What the hell?We didn't. We looked more assured of dealing with crosses, but we didn't look stable in playing it out, transitions or keeping the ball and keeping it simple. Whether it was 3 at the back or 2, we didn't regain any form of control on the game itself.
No, you use crack to describe a failure in a structure. Our team didn't fail. We defended well as a unit.. Jlingz brain fart is an individual mistake.A brainfart is a crack right? Somebody lost concentration and boom there goes the points.
Mentality or coaching, whatever the reason, when things are not going our way I don't trust the team to hold onto any sort of lead. Even a 2-0 lead I still worry. That must change.
Read my post again. I didn't say that. We needed to win more control back than we did, I never once inferred we should pen them in their half but at a minimum not be at 6s and 7s in our own box playing hoof ball against a team of nobodies. 10 men or 11, it's wholly unacceptable. I've seen far far better performances from other sides with 10 men than this one.Were you expecting us to dominate the game with 10 men in the fecking champions league? What the hell?
Our goal wasn't to gain control of the game. WE WERE DOWN TO 10 ffs. Our goal was to defend our lead and keep some sort of pacy counter threat up top.
We looked like swiss cheese after the red card and nice and compact after the change.
I think I finally flipped to Ole out somewhere in the 2nd half. Before the error. It's really the performance that did it for me. The last straw. Its not about the result so the error is more of less irrelevant to how I feel about it. We are lacking the compusure and presence of a team with a good squad aiming to win everything.You can’t really account for what Lingard did though? Otherwise it would have been a decent point. They played the game of their lives.
And what do you put down to? Players or management not drilling their ideas into the players during training?Read my post again. I didn't say that. We needed to win more control back than we did, I never once inferred we should pen them in their half but at a minimum not be at 6s and 7s in our own box playing hoof ball against a team of nobodies. 10 men or 11, it's wholly unacceptable. I've seen far far better performances from other sides with 10 men than this one.
100% managers not drilling players. Ole is not a coach in the tactical sense like Tuchel or Pep would be. He has said it himself he prefers to focus more on the mentality. SAF was similar but he was smart enough to know which were the good coaches to hire. If Ole can't do the tactical stuff he will fall on his sword if he fails to delegate appropriately.And what do you put down to? Players or management not drilling their ideas into the players during training?
It was fecking Young Boys. Their entire team combined cost less than Wan Bissaka, and their yearly salary is lower than Ronaldo's.Nonsense. We showed some real character holding on the way we did. I literally was ready to post how proud I was of the players for their attitude.
Can't plan around brain farts unfortunately.
But we didn't. We fought valiant and gave away our well fought point through a brainfart.
Standards are down the fecking tolietNonsense. We showed some real character holding on the way we did. I literally was ready to post how proud I was of the players for their attitude.
Can't plan around brain farts unfortunately.
But we didn't. We fought valiant and gave away our well fought point through a brainfart.
Yep, Tuchel's impact is a good comparison point.100% managers not drilling players. Ole is not a coach in the tactical sense like Tuchel or Pep would be. He has said it himself he prefers to focus more on the mentality. SAF was similar but he was smart enough to know which were the good coaches to hire. If Ole can't do the tactical stuff he will fall on his sword if he fails to delegate appropriately.
You look at Tuchel the way his side held their own versus Liverpool - it was broadly the same side that were gifting goals for fun under Lampard 9 months prior. The difference in a quality detail driven coach is night and day.
Exactly.Yep, Tuchel's impact is a good comparison point.
The impact of better coaching almost immediately evident.
In terms of coaching our current side looks more like Lampard's Chelsea than Tuchel's Chelsea, just with better individual players (which will often be enough to overcome average coaching, but not always).
If people are unwilling to accept that it's a fatal flaw in Solskjaer's management, they should at least be willing to accept that it's something he has to address by hiring better coaches. Because if people don't see the problem in how we play compared to other top sides then they either have their head in the sand or just don't understand what they're seeing.
Players he chooses to have in the squad and lineup.It was also two individual mistakes caused by players.
Well we didn’t get a point did we? Isn’t that why we were asking is it down to the players? Or not having good coaching?Get a grip. Besides the goal they hardly created anything in the 2nd half and we would all be saying it was a decent hard fought point with 10 men
Spot on..Yep, Tuchel's impact is a good comparison point.
The impact of better coaching almost immediately evident.
In terms of coaching our current side looks more like Lampard's Chelsea than Tuchel's Chelsea, just with better individual players (which will often be enough to overcome average coaching, but not always).
If people are unwilling to accept that it's a fatal flaw in Solskjaer's management, they should at least be willing to accept that it's something he has to address by hiring better coaches. Because if people don't see the problem in how we play compared to other top sides then they either have their head in the sand or just don't understand what they're seeing.
Good post. Difference is Chelsea set their emotions aside and sacked their club legend Lampard but we have Ole a new three year contract.Yep, Tuchel's impact is a good comparison point.
The impact of better coaching almost immediately evident.
In terms of coaching our current side looks more like Lampard's Chelsea than Tuchel's Chelsea, just with better individual players (which will often be enough to overcome average coaching, but not always).
If people are unwilling to accept that it's a fatal flaw in Solskjaer's management, they should at least be willing to accept that it's something he has to address by hiring better coaches. Because if people don't see the problem in how we play compared to other top sides then they either have their head in the sand or just don't understand what they're seeing.
He's a fantastic manager and United fans would hate him. He wouldn't be playing close to the same lineups we have been, nor playing the same type of football.Yep, Tuchel's impact is a good comparison point.
The impact of better coaching almost immediately evident.
In terms of coaching our current side looks more like Lampard's Chelsea than Tuchel's Chelsea, just with better individual players (which will often be enough to overcome average coaching, but not always).
If people are unwilling to accept that it's a fatal flaw in Solskjaer's management, they should at least be willing to accept that it's something he has to address by hiring better coaches. Because if people don't see the problem in how we play compared to other top sides then they either have their head in the sand or just don't understand what they're seeing.