If we can't get into the box just give the ball to him to shoot over and over. It can be a good tactic in my opinion.
Welcome Matheus Cunha!
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I understand that, yet we also need to move on from overpaying huge amounts on fees for lesser players don't we? Kvara was one of the best wingers on the market from a hard stance club like Napoli too.
Who are these '' so many players '' that play the role so well that we shouldnt be looking to improve?
Lets go through them......
Rashford.... Gone
Antony..... Gone
Sancho.... Gone
Garancho ...... Gone.... Not good enough anyway
Zirkzee.... Doesnt score enough, doesnt create enough, no pace
Mount.... Decent enough, injured a lot,
Bruno.... Decent enough, Dont think his attributes suit our current system, needs runners around him
Amad... Good enough, but lets not kid ourselves, should be a squad player for the level we want to reach.
Mainoo.... Meh
So by my reckoning, we have 3 players that can play the role of wide number 10s to a satisfactory level, so signing Cunha is absolutely necessary. It would be interesting to hear who you think we currently have that you have confidence in to create, score and excite us as fans.
There is something really odd about his play style. It looks clumsy and clever at the same time. He seems to launch himself in one direction with great force and then jump the other way while his upper body is still flailing
I love the tenacity. We really need that.
Bruno, decent enough? One of the best 10s in the world. And why does he need runners around him? He's about top five PL in terms of distance covered season after season. Also, if you think Amad is squad player material then I think the argument kind of stops there.
Agree with the rest, more or less.
There is something really odd about his play style. It looks clumsy and clever at the same time. He seems to launch himself in one direction with great force and then jump the other way while his upper body is still flailing
I love the tenacity. We really need that.
He kinda reminds me a little of the Aston Villa version of Grealish, but with more pace - he's quicker, faster than I thought - the way he just blew past TAA was impressive. He has this uncanny ability to win almost all of his 50-50 the ball locked between two players' feet situations - hate playing against those, annoying feckers.
Yeah, decent enough as one of the wide number 10's. As a sole number 10 in a 4231 i agree, world class but personally, i think he needs more positional discipline and more pace to play as a 10 in this system. His quality means he will always get goals and assists, but for this system to work properly IE, not relying on moments of brilliance to score a goal and instead relying on the system, then i think he is 'decent enough'. And having runners around him.... for me, Brunos peak for us was when he was played balls in behind for Rashford et all to run onto. Who's making them runs now? None of our players run in behind anymore. Thats all i meant.
As for Amad, he has shone bright this season for sure and is currently our most exciting attacker, but i look at the teams we had when we have been challenging for the top honours, which is where we all want to be..... would he command a starting spot in those line ups? probably not IMO but a more than useful squad player that would still play 40 games a season and bag some good numbers.
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I noticed that too. And yeah, it's super annoying to play against. Especially for me who seem to lose 95% of the 50-50's
Welcome to the lad.
Hope he does well.
Hope he does well.
Good player. Makes the team better. Does seem odd to blow a third, half? of the transfer budget on a guy who plays the one position we actually have decent talent in.
Let’s see how the chips fall I guess, gonna be a bad season, have to just hope for a few bright spots to build on, maybe he’ll be one of them.
Let’s see how the chips fall I guess, gonna be a bad season, have to just hope for a few bright spots to build on, maybe he’ll be one of them.
You would hope that the plan is to add to that budget with significant player sales or even loans.
You say we have decent talent there, however our attack has been trash for a long time, so clearly needs significantly improving. I've said several times the whole front 3 needs an overhaul, which it looks like we'll be doing
This is just the kind of good news we fans have been hoping and waiting for. Really pleased
Exciting signing and hopefully the start of good times ahead
Welcome Matheus!
Finally it looks like we have a Brazilian that plays the way a Brazilian should.
Finally it looks like we have a Brazilian that plays the way a Brazilian should.
Sorry what more defensive? My God Amorim hasnt a clue
WB most likely. But you can relax for now, he has not played a single game as a CB
How do they know this information. Has Amorim come out and said that.
Is there a link to where Amorim has said that?
Never said you were a small club and wasn’t belittling at all.
Man Utd are bigger than Wolves and the expectancy and demand is different. It’s just stating the obvious. If you tell a West Brom fan you’re bigger than them is that belittling? Or again just saying the obvious…
We finished one place above you and compare the reactions to those league finishes by the media and both clubs.
My football knowledge is fine. There’s very few things I get wrong because my thoughts aren’t driven by my emotive side like some United fans. What Sir Alex did in 1992 should have no bearing nor form any part of a conversation when discussing Amorim in 2025 either. That’s the kind of emotive above logical thinking coming into play.
Anyway I’m sure Cunha will do well here but it’s more likely to be in spite of a dreary United rather than as part of a high performing United. We’ll revisit in November where hopefully I look like a total clueless mug and United are doing well.
Of course not mate
It's garbage.
Just gonna leave this here:
PS: Also reason why we shouldn't be selling Garnacho in this vid.
PS: Also reason why we shouldn't be selling Garnacho in this vid.
Bem-vindo, truly hope he succeeds !
The thing I like about him is he’s got that “tackle dribble” ability that only Amad has in our current squad. Garnacho definitely doesn’t have it and neither does Rashford - they both need to dribble cleanly to get past players and that requires space they’re rarely afforded.
Cunha can drive his way through multiple players with the ball rebounding off their legs and somehow come out with the ball. It looks like it’s lucky but it’s absolutely not because he does it so consistently. Luis Suarez was a master of it. It’s the difference between a good dribbler and a great dribbler in my opinion and the difference between a player that can be easily quieted by doubling up vs a player that can bundle past two defenders and find the space the second defender left.
Cunha can drive his way through multiple players with the ball rebounding off their legs and somehow come out with the ball. It looks like it’s lucky but it’s absolutely not because he does it so consistently. Luis Suarez was a master of it. It’s the difference between a good dribbler and a great dribbler in my opinion and the difference between a player that can be easily quieted by doubling up vs a player that can bundle past two defenders and find the space the second defender left.
Now that he’s signed on the dotted line I have changed my mind completely and expect him to be mint for us.
No way Garnacho stays now we've signed a senior player in his favoured position.
This is the trouble with going too early with an academy player in a key position. Their output is poor but they still expect to be a starter.
Fair enough, I just don’t think a fair comparison is wolves in league 1 and united 16th in the premier league
And please don’t think I’m saying that Amorim will have the trophy haul Sir Alex had but he will win trophies given time, I can see what he’s trying to do and Cunha is the first piece in a very large jigsaw, he needs time and has had none yet really before a lot of fans want him out.
I can’t believe the amount of people pretending our number 10 options are anywhere near good enough or fit Amorim’s style of play at all. We don’t have a single ideal fit for Amorim’s wide 10. You can maybe argue Amad but I don’t think he’s even a perfect fit and to be honest he still has it all to prove that he’s good enough to be a guaranteed starter. Cunha is a massive step up!
In any case he allows Amad to play WB which should mean we have more quality players on the pitch
I assume he is talking about potentially playing him deeper in some situations. I don't think that would be the worst idea. I don't think it gets the most out of him but loads of players get moved about because they are good enough. He dribbles with the ball and has a great penetrating/weighted pass on him. Something that we desperately need from on of our midfield 2. You look at all the best midfielders and they can break the lines with a dribble. A quick turn. Suddenly the entire opposition team is scattered and running back in disarray. We don't have that currently.
Probably best not to have this long drawn out argument here, but that's rubbish. He can play either of the two 10 positions is one of the our most effective in that position alongside Amad and we are already looking to get rid of Sancho and Rashford so should get plenty of playing time.
As for his output its the best among his age group in throughout Europes top leagues so again that's just plain wrong. He has been a rotation option this season and will be required to be next season also.
Desperately need a holding midfielder but then I’d have to agree. Ideally another fullback and proper striker too.
Can I just say now there’s no fecking way he’ll be playing deep. We finished the season with minus TEN goal difference, and Cunha brings goals. He’ll be playing as far up as he can.
He isn't the best player, but probably the best available player for us. Considering the decade long struggle, 15th place finish, no CL or any european football, poor squad, poor ownership and so on, signing Cunha was a huge feat.
thought so. Of course that doesn’t stop the hysteria and ridiculous criticism.
He’s such a different profile to rashford. He’s a pain to play against. He’s productive, he actually tackles and and fights for the ball in the air. This is a red bull type signing RR was sayin we need to make more of. Chaotic physical football that opposition can’t stifle too easily.
Hate to say it as he was a massive cnut, but the most comparable player has got to be Luis Suarez - lets hope he is half as good!There is something really odd about his play style. It looks clumsy and clever at the same time. He seems to launch himself in one direction with great force and then jump the other way while his upper body is still flailing
I love the tenacity. We really need that.
Given our disastrous recruitment history over a good while now it is natural to be nervous about any new signing , but surely given the run of failures even by the just he law of averages we are due a success. Hopefully that is what this move turns out to be , he is an exciting player , premier league proven and the right age profile to hit the ground running.
But as we know often when players move to Utd it is their character that is often tested the most , are they a strong enough character to withstand the scrutiny and pressure that comes with playing for this club.
No matter how big a profile player you think you are now , it pales into insignificance to how big it will be now that you have joined Utd. Be prepared for every aspect of your performances to be poured over minutely after every game by the worlds sporting press , we are not a club that competes at the highest level anymore but we are still a huge story , in a morbid way maybe even a bigger story than we ever were.
But as we know often when players move to Utd it is their character that is often tested the most , are they a strong enough character to withstand the scrutiny and pressure that comes with playing for this club.
No matter how big a profile player you think you are now , it pales into insignificance to how big it will be now that you have joined Utd. Be prepared for every aspect of your performances to be poured over minutely after every game by the worlds sporting press , we are not a club that competes at the highest level anymore but we are still a huge story , in a morbid way maybe even a bigger story than we ever were.
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