It is also popular. A bit like cutting benefits (in the abstract). An easy way to generate good press. Blair did it a load too.
Westminster Politics 2024-2029
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No no no. They were just really fecking stupid and had no idea how to win elections or anything which is why they won 3 and a half elections on the trot or whatever it was. Don't be a conspiracy theorist.
I'm pretty sure he still believes in trickle down economics. That seems to be what he's saying. Just let the rich keep getting richer at our expense and they'll create jobs and soon we'll all be benefitting from their increased wealth.
So no arguments then, glad to have been of service.
I think it's more a bad caricature and there's an element of people seeing what they want to see. The 30s one has horns ffs.
I'm talking about the Times' content over years and particularly recently. It shares multiple columnists with the Jewish Chronicle, like Daniel Finkelstein, Melanie Phillips, David Aaronovitch etc...The Times does a lot of very good journalism, including recent exposés on Reform, but is legendarily pro-establish and I take issue often with the inherent anti-muslim slant that can come with that currently.
Branding Starmer a ‘Jew harmer’ is unserious. That way lies madness
https://www.thetimes.com/comment/columnists/article/keir-starmer-jews-golders-green-attack-pf9vwhbb5Antisemitism is not just disastrous for Jews
https://www.thetimes.com/comment/co...sastrous-british-jews-golders-green-k85pgpk07As a Jewish man in the UK, I fear for the state of my country
https://www.thetimes.com/video/vert...-i-fear-for-the-state-of-my-country-zdb00jr2gNo it doesn't, but you could argue it'd be strange to be pro-Israel and rabidly antisemitic. The paper is certainly gunning for Polanski right now, but I don't think the cartoon is anywhere near the '30s trope you do.
I agree with you about the cartoon but I don't think it's strange at all that anti-Semitic people can be pro-Israel.
Nigel Farage is famously anti-Semitic but he is more than ok with Israel for one or both of two reasons. 1. The Israeli state is a great exponent of white supremacism which tallies nicely with his own views. 2. There is a personal benefit to being friendly with Israel, whether that be receiving money, not having blackmail material released, or having the right kind of influence to help him win power.
That's all fair and they're allied against Islam, the perceived greater threat too.
You've described the entire right wing right now. They're supporting Israel because they're both islamaphobic and enjoy dead Muslims but they're still inherently anti-semetic and always have been. I find it hard to disassociate The Times from this when they're pushing right wing attack lines.
The only difference between that caricature and the Netanyahu one is which lobby groups it impacts.
I think it's fairly common. Theres a good line in VEEP about it, I think it's the guy who owns the prisons describes someone as a 'horrible antisemite but a loyal friend to israel'.
Concerned by the latest polling in Scotland. SNP projected to get 59 seats, which is fine by me, but Reform coming second with 19.
I can't think of an election in my lifetime where I've had so many flyers from a single party as this one and Reform. It feels like every week for the last two months I've had to look at Farage's little gollum face momentarily before wiping my arse and lobbing it in the bin. The amount of money they have to burn on campaigning is actually quite disgusting.
I can't think of an election in my lifetime where I've had so many flyers from a single party as this one and Reform. It feels like every week for the last two months I've had to look at Farage's little gollum face momentarily before wiping my arse and lobbing it in the bin. The amount of money they have to burn on campaigning is actually quite disgusting.
The weird part about Reform is that it is so obviously the wrong direction that you, kind of like Brexit, almost are fascinated, prior to real world problems it creates, by the car-crash of it all. It's completely stupid. Though the two parties by being themselves have allowed this gap to come about much as now, in the states, I think you'll see a substantial break between the old "it's either blue or red" with various areas of overlapping interest demonstrating the inadequacies of either to a substantial segment of the population. Reform is absolutely not the answer, though comprises the problem -- it points to problems, which it cannot fix, and then creates problems, intentionally, through its pointing (its methodology). It's a disgrace of a political party.
Driving through Wales this weekend and there are Reform posters everywhere. They even put flyers through our door in Chorlton. They aren't short of cash, that's for sure.
It's the same down south. There is a house around the corner from ours which has several Reform stickers up on their windows and a Make Britain Great Again sticker on their car. Lovely people.
At least they identified themselves!
You missed out 3) His Orange mate told him to love his dear friend Bibi
I can't help feeling that in the long-run Reform actually winning big in the local elections and having to run local Government might be a good thing, it will show people how much worse it would be if they were actually in charge of the country - that said, I'm glad I don't have to live it
If only people's/voter's brains worked like this. Will be the same people who voted passionately for Brexit, seen it to be a disaster for the country, and then just find something else to blame for their lives/decisions, or that Brexit didn't go far enough. There is never self-reflection with this sort.I can't help feeling that in the long-run Reform actually winning big in the local elections and having to run local Government might be a good thing, it will show people how much worse it would be if they were actually in charge of the country - that said, I'm glad I don't have to live it
If anything people have just doubled down on the rhetoric even if it means screwing up their and their kids live by voting for party that is eager to drags us out of th echr which means going massively backwards in terms of workers right though to be fair a lot of reform voters look like they dont work anyway.
And you can bet when thing get worse under reform, their voters will double down even further and vote in Rupert lowe party instead
Yeah, I'd hope for that too. Imagine if we had the opportunity to dip our toe into Brexit, realise it was an utter failure, and could back out of it.I can't help feeling that in the long-run Reform actually winning big in the local elections and having to run local Government might be a good thing, it will show people how much worse it would be if they were actually in charge of the country - that said, I'm glad I don't have to live it
My only worry is that crooks like Farage will just say "Ah, we bankrupted the entire region by wasting money on diamonds and gasoline but it's because Labour wouldn't stop the boats" and morons would believe it.
And when Restore inevitably fails, they’ll vote in an even further right party.
Yeah fair enough, there's plenty of it on the right, though it's a strangely interwoven relationship all round with so many Jewish Tories through history, even before Islamophobia was much of a thing.
It’s unfortunately wishful thinking that what is objectively bad governing by reform would ever been seen as such.
The decay in people’s minds, and the inability to critique information has put us on a slippery path I can’t quite see how we get off of. It will never be Reform’s fault.
I’m worried that it would only take something despicably big to actually jar people off. But even then, I worry because the ability to create misinformation is so much more prevalent today than in the past.
Genuinely think we are fecked. Sorry for the doommongering.
The decay in people’s minds, and the inability to critique information has put us on a slippery path I can’t quite see how we get off of. It will never be Reform’s fault.
I’m worried that it would only take something despicably big to actually jar people off. But even then, I worry because the ability to create misinformation is so much more prevalent today than in the past.
Genuinely think we are fecked. Sorry for the doommongering.
The right wing media are positively salivating at the prospect of a disaster for Labour.
And then of course, they will be pushing really hard for Starmer to be removed.
The real question is....who would replace him. I don't have a clue who. Normally there is someone waiting in the wings
And then of course, they will be pushing really hard for Starmer to be removed.
The real question is....who would replace him. I don't have a clue who. Normally there is someone waiting in the wings
Is there any poll or website that indicates who might win on a postcode level - need to work out who to vote for tactically
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The left are salivating at disaster for Labour as well!
Burnham is the only answer. As soon as Starmer is gone, he will be parachuted in.
The Unions have backed away from Raynor - which we can all thank our lucky stars for.
The left are salivating at disaster for Labour as well!
Burnham is the only answer. As soon as Starmer is gone, he will be parachuted in.
The Unions have backed away from Raynor - which we can all thank our lucky stars for.
There was a link in here I think. I had a look at one in the last 2-3 weeks.
Yes I do agree with you about Burnham. But I didn't mention him because he is not an MP
There is a very good saying.... you get the government you deserve.
And for people gullible enough to vote for Farage, you will definitely get what you deserve.
And for people gullible enough to vote for Farage, you will definitely get what you deserve.
I think he will be very quickly once Starmer goes.
He’s done a good job in Manchester, he’s probably the most popular Labour politician, and having not been part of the current sh!t show is the only credible way they can present some sort of ‘reset’ with the public.
It has to be someone outside of Cabinet (or anyone who has served in Cabinet).
Did we deserve this government?
I suppose the problem these days, is that we can vote in a government with a massive majority that only 33% of voters voted for, and it will be a lower % at the next GE. So I don’t think it can apply anymore.
This gives you the candidates standing:
https://whocanivotefor.co.uk/
Your local council will have a record of the past elections by ward. If you PM me your council ward I can have a search for the last result.
20% of all voters if you include those that didn't vote. I'm rapidly coming round to PR being a necessity as soon as possible.
What a miserable statistic that is.
I agree. Perhaps it would also lead to less divisive politics.
What government is ever going to change it though? Their singular goal is to remain in power.
I feel embarrassed for the people in this video. Fecking literally Turkeys voting for Christmas.
Burnham is not without controversy in Manchester. Watch the Renaker story go full throttle if Burnham gets a sniff of Number 10.
Some people saying Renaker funding didn’t lead to enough affordable houses (but did lead to lots of redevelopment) doesn’t really touch the sides vs Starmer.
I've made up my mind. After I cast my vote I'm going to flip the Vs up to whichever Reform rep is standing outside the polling station and call him a wankstain.