Yes, they will, in exactly the opposite way to when they blamed the councils for Tory central government slashing their funding every year for 14 years.
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Or when the voters of Hartlepool defeated Labour in a by election because they hadn't seen any benefits from voting for them. The UK Government had been Tory led for 11 years at that point.
People are fickle.
Which gets me thinking - has there been a similar example of this that benefitted left leaning parties? I can think of voters who ditched Labour for the Lib Dems or Greens, but this situation in reverse?
Bloody immigrants, creating potholes and fecking up our bins.
It's a disgrace.
It's a disgrace.
I hope so but even with it having been an utter fecking shambles, depressingly I still think their share of the vote would still be the same if we'd had an election today.
Will never forget the guy who said he was voting for Boris so he could kick Corbyn out of office.
Imo punishing parties by voting tends to be something older people do and they are overwhelmingly more right wing.
That's probably in part because they are old enough to remember the last truly left-wing Labour governments, which let's face it were complete shitshows
Your councils are going to be complete shit shows. Bailouts of epic proportions will be required.
It's happening now on the left with people voting Green to punish Labour for Starmer's shambles.
Yea, it's Polanski who'll put Farage into Downing Street.
Best pass PR whilst we still can.
It's interesting that Lib Dems have done ok.
I reckon that by the time of a general election, they'd be more likely to switch back to Labour compared to Green voters.
I reckon that by the time of a general election, they'd be more likely to switch back to Labour compared to Green voters.
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Seriously wish I had an option to get out of this country, suppose a lot of the reform voters wish I did as well 
Pleasantly surprised that Reform gained nothing in Reading and lost their only councillor. Lib Dems held in my ward, I voted Green.
People like this running Councils, he can’t even remember his own party.
Pleased for the Green gains, but absolutely terrified by the Turquoise Takeover. Other says it’s a good thing as people will see what happens when these chancers actually have to deal with being in power, but people’s lives will be wrecked in the process.
Am reading Greens got good vote share but that hasn't converted to as many wins as hoped.
Well done thick Reform voters, elected racist scum such as this.
You’d get a pass if you told them you’d played rugby league for 15 years tbfSeriously wish I had an option to get out of this country, suppose a lot of the reform voters wish I did as well
Our grossly incompetent council in Merton remains Labour. Barely any change at all.
The only saving grace we have is, at least we aren’t in Croydon or Lambeth, as they are both much worse.
The only saving grace we have is, at least we aren’t in Croydon or Lambeth, as they are both much worse.
I read that where there was a Brexit vote of 40%+, reform has done well.
Conclusion. Once gullible, always gullible?
Conclusion. Once gullible, always gullible?
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Around my area only around 30% of eligible voters voted. Of all eligible voters about 12.5% voted reform.
So glad we can finally take control of our land locked local council area borders
So glad we can finally take control of our land locked local council area borders
We still don’t know who has won in Croydon. Not sure it’ll make much difference as we seem to be fecked either way. Would be astounded if its reform though.
It’s as if the thick learnt nothing
It's sad to see. We are in a political era of hate and division, and for various reasons, the general public are more susceptible to misinformation than ever before.
Unfortunately, and what's most upsetting, is there doesn't appear to be a sensible way out. We've seen the events in the US and yet are unwilling or unable to prevent similar occurring on our own soil.
My heart goes out to generations next; as if they don't have enough to contend with, we're going to leave them with an almighty mess.
Unfortunately, and what's most upsetting, is there doesn't appear to be a sensible way out. We've seen the events in the US and yet are unwilling or unable to prevent similar occurring on our own soil.
My heart goes out to generations next; as if they don't have enough to contend with, we're going to leave them with an almighty mess.
Its been hilarious in my area.
The reform councillor is an ex Tory who was voted out a few years back after loads of scandals. The reform party have been urging local right wingers to vote for them not tory because of those previous scandals and feck ups that were essentially orchestrated by their candidate.
It does look like Labour might win here though (our councillor is decent tbf). I sense that's down to the councillor himself rather than the party.
The reform councillor is an ex Tory who was voted out a few years back after loads of scandals. The reform party have been urging local right wingers to vote for them not tory because of those previous scandals and feck ups that were essentially orchestrated by their candidate.
It does look like Labour might win here though (our councillor is decent tbf). I sense that's down to the councillor himself rather than the party.
I wonder how the reform voters will feel if they win the general election. Suddenly they're in power and not the underdog anymore.
The only person left to hate will be their God Farage when he fails to live up to their wild expectations.
The only person left to hate will be their God Farage when he fails to live up to their wild expectations.
This should be the front page takeaway of this election..but I bet only the Mirror and Guardian cover it.
Maybe some coverage on BBC and radio
Unfair to blame the public, the hate and division has come from our political classes as they become more and more desperate to get power, and worse, their actions when trying to cling on to power.
Just watch PMQs, that’s the face of politics, that, scandal and sleaze.
I agree that there seems to be no end. Starmer was meant to be the ‘adult in the room’, but was just more of the same.
I don't think it's unfair to say what they did about the public though? I think it's pretty clear that people are more susceptible to misinformation now due to the impact of social media and recently, AI.
I think the majority of Reform voters are single-issue voters and dont have any particular allegiance to the party or even to Farage. The party is essentially just a vehicle for the single-issue.
I can absolutely see Reform getting into power and then ceasing to exist 1 or 2 election cycles later. The Tories will shift to the right and embrace various changes Reform put in place, and there will be no need for Reform to keep existing after that. Unlike other parties it doesn't have a continuous goal, purpose or ideology. It only exists in a moment in time.
Again though, we don’t get clear, truthful messages and answers from the government.
I’m not talking about conspiracies - but every message from the government to the public is slanted towards self-preservation, which leaves the gap for misinformation.
In this day and age, with the mass of information, of course WE ALL are more susceptible to misinformation, but that is made far worse when our government is rarely transparent with the people.
You could say the same about the SNP though? Who are still in power.
Just a reminder that we were told the voters weren't to blame Corbyn was, don't insult the voters they said. Then we were told Starmer had to go big tent, drop his pledges and appease the right. Then it was it'll take two terms change takes time.
Not going well is it. Once again Labour mistook a short term 'win' where there was no genuine challenger for a confirmation of their strategies effectiveness. I said on GE night the result just confirmed Reform will be the next party.
People do not want an empty suit government that they feel does not support or understand them. We live in a different era, a more connected era, and popularity matters.
I Really hope Burnham given his mayoral style soon saves us from this mess.
Not going well is it. Once again Labour mistook a short term 'win' where there was no genuine challenger for a confirmation of their strategies effectiveness. I said on GE night the result just confirmed Reform will be the next party.
People do not want an empty suit government that they feel does not support or understand them. We live in a different era, a more connected era, and popularity matters.
I Really hope Burnham given his mayoral style soon saves us from this mess.
The elected Reform councillor
It’s wishful thinking to think that Reform running chaos at their councils will make a difference. Just like Trump in the US, those who are voting reform are so entrenched in their views that they’ll simply find something else to blame.
One of the biggest issues is a lot of the media and talking heads that labour cannot control will talk about only negatives and ignore anything they say or do that will and does help people. If you think that will get better under Burnham you're going to be disappointed. I like him, think he would probably do a good job but starmer has not done a bad one so far. Incredibly bad pr and a few own goals but every government has that, it's just who's talking about them that matters and most of that is controlled by people who want to see right wing politics control the country.
I know people often don’t peak under the covers, but it really wasn’t complex to see that the Labour win at the last GE really wasn’t that - it was simply more gains as a result of their key opposition voters splitting votes. Labours true gains were very very marginal. What I find staggering now though is how quickly voters have desserted the conservatives to go fully Reform. And how quickly the few labour voters who moved back from conservatives under Boris also moved to Reform.
Reform are going to win the next GE, unless something drastic happens. Running shitty councils will not be drastic enough, to be clear.
The recent attacks on Polanski as he rose above the crowd shows exactly what would happen if Burnham came in and took the leadership.
Nice- Reform made no inroads in Hammersmith & Fulham, with Lab holding 38 out of their 40 seats on the 50 seat council.
https://www.swlondoner.co.uk/news/0...-labour-hold-strong-in-hammersmith-and-fulham
https://www.swlondoner.co.uk/news/0...-labour-hold-strong-in-hammersmith-and-fulham
I think the public has a responsibility if they're going to be voting/protesting/rioting etc. to fact check what is being fed to them though and I don't think they generally do. There are plenty of videos on Joe of Reform intending voters being asked questions and they don't have a clue.
The media also has a responsibility in this but they're fecking trash at their job too. Basically, everyone is a problem.
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