Westminster Politics 2024-2029
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He's right to attempt that I reckon. Burnham is the difference maker for the seat according to polls and that's because he's going to go for the leadership. If he ran it as a pure local election campaign he wouldn't get anywhere near the same attention.
Seems pretty shameless to have "Change Labour" on the logo when he's already told us he's pretty much planning on keeping things exactly as they are
Two US political commentators banned from entering UK
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...g-uk-cenk-uygur-hasan-piker?CMP=share_btn_url
Home Office says presence of Cenk Uygur and Hasan Piker in UK ‘may not be conducive to the public good’
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...g-uk-cenk-uygur-hasan-piker?CMP=share_btn_url
Home Office says presence of Cenk Uygur and Hasan Piker in UK ‘may not be conducive to the public good’
The amount of supposed local right wingers who think that's a black power salute and have no idea of Northern Soul is insane.
Specifically because they criticise the state of Israel. Important that bit is noted.
Can't wait for the 'Red 'Flag' anthem to be brought back.
Mandelson declined to hand over his personal phone so messages could be published to comply with humble address, files reveal
The files reveal that Peter Mandelson apparently “declined to comply” with a request to hand over his personal phone and allow the government to publish WhatsApp messages and other information related to his appointment, according the the Press Association.Publishing this second tranche of Mandelson files apparently cost the Cabinet Office £1 million. All for such a stupid, unforced error by a government with more than enough on its plate. And these are supposed to be intelligent people. They couldn’t organise a fecking church raffle without fecking it up.
Add up all the costs of their mistakes and it’s eye watering.
Sacking ministers, sacking senior civil servants, elections, admin, etc.
“It’s not our f’ing money” is the attitude out of Westminster.
The adults in the room.
Surely must be a joke. Did Cenk speak out against the UK government?
So a man gets barred from Britain for claiming Israel controls Western governments, and the British government's response is to control its borders on Israel's behalf. You couldn't write a better advertisement for his thesis if you tried. The man should send the Home Office a thank-you note for the field research.
What the hell is happening in the UK that a Labour Government would not allow two Liberal commentators into the country?
And for what? Calling out Israel's numerous war crimes? Criticizing US policy, in following Israel into multiple conflicts that are not only illegal but have no benefit to the US taxpayer?
All the while allowing right wing racists to match the streets.
The UK should be speaking out against the actions of the Israel, while also protecting the right for Jewish people in the UK live a peaceful life. It is not a hard needle to thread.
Or has Westminster been corrupted by pro-Israel lobbyists in the same way at Washington has?
Is Spain now the only European government with a backbone?
Both should be allowed to speak in the UK but lets not pretend they're just critical of Israel, both push conspiracies about October 7th and Hasan Piker supports terrorist attacks against the West
From The Times. Frankly says it all about Starmer and this government. Usually you only see this detail after a government has lost power… ah, no change then.
Starmer never offered answers. About this time last year, as the welfare rebellion that derailed his premiership gathered momentum, McFadden despaired: “I don’t know what Keir thinks of all of this. He has not spoken to me about any of it.” In every meeting with Labour MPs — and this one will be quoted endlessly by the Tories and Reform UK, like Liam Byrne’s 2010 note in which he joked there was “no money” left in the Treasury — he was asked “who can we tax in order to pay benefits to others”.
Labour 101. As it’s always been.
Starmer never offered answers. About this time last year, as the welfare rebellion that derailed his premiership gathered momentum, McFadden despaired: “I don’t know what Keir thinks of all of this. He has not spoken to me about any of it.” In every meeting with Labour MPs — and this one will be quoted endlessly by the Tories and Reform UK, like Liam Byrne’s 2010 note in which he joked there was “no money” left in the Treasury — he was asked “who can we tax in order to pay benefits to others”.
Labour 101. As it’s always been.
There is a certain type of hell that awaits people like Jenrick and Farage. People who politicise a murder for their own means are absolute scum, he knows nothing could be mentioned here due to a trial. They won't give a shite about the victim, just about furthering their class war. I truly detest them.
He criticised Starmer's beloved apartheid which is the same thing in Starmer's dead doll eyes. Rachel Reeves says we "should all be Zionists", Starmer encouraged his apartheid to cut off water and electricity to a people being deliberately starved and slaughtered, Lammy and Yvette proudly host genocidal politicians and Labour Friends of Genocide are one of the main policy drivers of Starmer's regime. They ruined the career of a police chief who banned a bunch of violent, genocidal football hooligans from being left to have their way with vulnerable British citizens.
Either express your fealty to apartheid and genocide or Starmer will silence it.
Could be one of those lines that sticks against the party for the foreseeable future that. They are so rubbish politically.
Yes, but it is true... if a government is going to pay benefits (does not stipulate which ones), then it has to ask the question how will they raise the money?
The interesting bit.... is what was the answer?
But people seem to be overlooking the fact that this quote is from a right wing Labour MP McFadden whinging to his right wing Labour mate Mandelson about Labour backbenchers, who he feels aren’t right wing enough even after the post-Corbyn purges. Right wing critics like the poster above are portraying it as a direct quote from those backbenchers, which is disingenuous to say the least.
Such as…
Absolutely, though we no longer feel like a country who cares about answers. We seem more interested in finding people to blame for our issues.
That line will be repeated uncritically and will likely gain traction in the press to be wheeled out before any election going forward. The left leaning coalition can't help but shoot themselves in the foot politically.
It is also (concerningly) wildly economically illiterate. Money is produced through the creation of debt. Taxes destroy money.
To assume you must raise taxes to spend is completely backwards.
It leads us to a zero sum game which you have identified before, where taxes of individuals and small businesses are raised to justify extra spending. Those taxes are raised because you have a captive population who cannot simply up and leave the jurisdiction.
If this is Labour's approach to the economy, no wonder they cannot get it moving.
It’s not portrayed as anything other than what’s in the passage.
I think it’s disingenuous to label those mentioned as right wing, implying that this is where they sit on the wider political spectrum.
Those on the left of the Labour would perhaps see them as moderate/ right. But outside of the party, they are not.
I suppose this helps a narrative, that anyone to the right of Mandelson therefore must be ‘far right’.
Hasan Piker called October 7th a 'rape fantasy' and said 9/11 was deserved and supports terrorism against shipping vessels.
Cenk said that October 7th was either an inside job or known about in advance.
Hasan Piker is also alleged to have said that orthodox Jews are inbred, but I've not seen the video so, in fairness, he might have been 'ironic' while saying it
Both are grifters in an age where grifers are up unfortunately.
Doesn't mean I think that they should be kept out of the country necessarily, but I wouldn't be giving them any of my sympathy either.
I don't think they should be banned either.
I used to watch the Young Turks a lot when I was younger and don't necessarily have anything too much against Cenk, though Hasan has always been a cnut
With you on all the above, though Cenk and Ana have gone off the deep end the last number of years. Piker has always been an opportunist who only cares about his own clout.
Agree with this post.
Frankly i have no idea who any of these people are.
I’ve always been of the opinion that banning these types of muppets makes things worse. Led them talk, let them be critiqued, and usually they bury themselves.
I’ve instantly forgotten their names, but would never have even come across them if they hadn’t been banned.
Hasan Piker is one of the biggest streamers in the world. The biggest primarily political streamer.
Cenk Uygur is an OG of the Internet.
Like them or not they're pretty influential even if they're pretty laughable.
Thanks. I’ve never heard of them, another piece of evidence confirming I’m getting old.
You just need to find a passion for Internet trashfires and drama and you'll soon learn who a lot of these characters are
We all know the answer, we don't know if it is too late though. You have to drastically cut benefits. No party wants to be the one to do it though because the chunk of the vote is so mammoth (hence the issue) that they'd rather point the finger elsewhere or just debate it.
The whole thing is simple, it should not even be political. We used to be a filthy rich and as such we developed social welfare that befitted that level of wealth. We have declined as a country since then pretty drastically but continue to provide very high social welfare. They simply need some kind of peg to current economic forecasts, where the value of benefits changes every 5 years or so in line with how much we can afford to pay. As it stands we seem to be spending more and more whilst being fully aware we can't afford it.
Yeah, let's just ignore the fact that when all the social welfare programs started post WWII, we actually did tax the rich to pay for it all.
Who would have thought that systematic reduction of those taxes over the past 50 years would have left us with a shortfall?
Increase taxes, take it away from a different budget, increase debt or improve the economy
Since we had 14 years of austerity there's only so much more meat on the bone.
So maybe slight cuts and debt increase but improve economy and raise taxes it is.