Mate, he didn’t do any of that though.Starmer blasting Sunak for not bringing immigration down was soul destroying to watch. The discussion around immigration is so fecked in this country. Starmer complaining there are too many work visa issued is disgraceful.
Also, international students can no longer bring their families over.
I'm a fervent remainer and I speak (fairly) fluent French, although a little rusty now.
Might be a lie but these people exist, both.I can't believe you people argued so much over a clearly fake story someone told on Twitter.
He’s absolutely making it up, that account is semi-famous for posting elaborate Remainer fantasies, disappearing for ages and then turning up again 6 months later with another one. He’s notorious for it. His stock photo profile is a giveaway, as is the fact he used to describe himself as the author of a book series that didn’t exist.Most of the comments think the guy's making it up. Maybe he is but similar things are quite regular around here. Tourist season is approaching! No!!!
You don't say.He’s absolutely making it up, that account is semi-famous for posting elaborate Remainer fantasies, disappearing for ages and then turning up again 6 months later with another one. He’s notorious for it. His stock photo profile is a giveaway, as is the fact he used to describe himself as the author of a book series that didn’t exist.
Weird thing to do, pandering to people who want to feel smugly superior to imaginary Brexiters (when there’s plenty of real ones they can do that if they so wish)
The sad thing is you can actually see that happening.He’s absolutely making it up, that account is semi-famous for posting elaborate Remainer fantasies, disappearing for ages and then turning up again 6 months later with another one. He’s notorious for it. His stock photo profile is a giveaway, as is the fact he used to describe himself as the author of a book series that didn’t exist.
Weird thing to do, pandering to people who want to feel smugly superior to imaginary Brexiters (when there’s plenty of real ones they can do that if they so wish)
It's just an obvious parody account isn't it? Like Michael Take.He’s absolutely making it up, that account is semi-famous for posting elaborate Remainer fantasies, disappearing for ages and then turning up again 6 months later with another one. He’s notorious for it. His stock photo profile is a giveaway, as is the fact he used to describe himself as the author of a book series that didn’t exist.
Weird thing to do, pandering to people who want to feel smugly superior to imaginary Brexiters (when there’s plenty of real ones they can do that if they so wish)
Maybe but it’s not unreasonable to expect English spoken in a tourist area. Take away the British focus and most other non-French Europeans would speak English as their second language rather than French. Anyway, it’s probably made up, almost in order to discredit “smug” remainers.The sad thing is you can actually see that happening.
Maybe but it’s not unreasonable to expect English spoken in a tourist area. Take away the British focus and most other non-French Europeans would speak English as their second language rather than French. Anyway, it’s probably made up, almost in order to discredit “smug” remainers.
I dunno - somewhere with a high influx of tourists in the summer?What is classed as a tourist area though?
Everywhere then and the only French born person I know around here who speaks good English (she's fluent) is my wife.I dunno - somewhere with a high influx of tourists in the summer?
Anecdotally, my (non-native English speaker) wife does not like going to France because of the lack of English outside the cities, although, in my experience, it has changed hugely in the last 20 years in that respect. Anyway, is it reasonable to expect tourists to speak French? Do French people learn Greek when they go to Greece?Everywhere then and the only French born person I know around here who speaks good English (she's fluent) is my wife.
Bloody remoanerI'm a fervent remainer and I speak (fairly) fluent French, although a little rusty now.
So, basically, go feck yourself with a baseball bat.
If they are in the tourist industry they'd probably speak English. Where we are and within a 200km radius there are few large towns, it's mainly an area of natural beauty, hundreds of medieval villages, lakes, hills and so on. Most people would have Spanish as a second language or occitane, the local patois dialect as we're closer to Spain. On the eastern side ,the Alps, where my wife originates, the second language would be more likely to be Italian. Those actually directly involved in the tourist industry would speak English. My wife spent 32 years in England which is why she is fluent.Anecdotally, my (non-native English speaker) wife does not like going to France because of the lack of English outside the cities, although, in my experience, it has changed hugely in the last 20 years in that respect. Anyway, is it reasonable to expect tourists to speak French? Do French people learn Greek when they go to Greece?
Yes it’s reasonable. And also really damn easy. Learning bits and pieces of other languages is an awesome part of travel.Anecdotally, my (non-native English speaker) wife does not like going to France because of the lack of English outside the cities, although, in my experience, it has changed hugely in the last 20 years in that respect. Anyway, is it reasonable to expect tourists to speak French? Do French people learn Greek when they go to Greece?
The shouting at locals is a fair point…. anyway, it sounds like a nice spot where you live. Is it the Pyrenees?If they are in the tourist industry they'd probably speak English. Where we are and within a 200km radius there are few large towns, it's mainly an area of natural beauty, hundreds of medieval villages, lakes, hills and so on. Most people would have Spanish as a second language or occitane, the local patois dialect as we're closer to Spain. On the eastern side ,the Alps, where my wife originates, the second language would be more likely to be Italian. Those actually directly involved in the tourist industry would speak English. My wife spent 32 years in England which is why she is fluent.
I doubt very many French people speak Greek. Question is would they start shouting at the Greeks in French to try to make them understand.
With respect, I think that’s bollocks. French people are only marginally less useless at speaking foreign languages than Brits and would be just as bad were it not for the fact that English is now the global language. They might know “kalimera” but I doubt they can ask for directions and understand the reply (as per the seemingly troll tweet that started this discussion).Yes it’s reasonable. And also really damn easy. Learning bits and pieces of other languages is an awesome part of travel.
Super basic phrases like ‘Beer’, ‘Toilet’, ‘Right/Left’, ‘Bill’, ‘Please and thank you’ are learnable on the plane.
And yes, French people do learn Greek when in Greece.
It’s a gift and a curse to be English speaking. Far easier to get by, almost everywhere. But it makes us all quite precious and closeted.
No, it's the Limousin between Brive and Limoges , about 180km west of Clermont-Ferrand and 200 km east of Bordeaux. Toulouse is about 240km due SouthThe shouting at locals is a fair point…. anyway, it sounds like a nice spot where you live. Is it the Pyrenees?
I’ve literally said ‘bits and pieces’ and then actually quoted some absolute basics. And also pointed out speaking English makes us all lazy.With respect, I think that’s bollocks. French people are only marginally less useless at speaking foreign languages than Brits and would be just as bad were it not for the fact that English is now the global language. They might know “kalimera” but I doubt they can ask for directions and understand the reply (as per the seemingly troll tweet that started this discussion).
Thank you for the cloud reference (nuage?)….The original tweet was not about asking for “une bière“ but for directions. As for lazy, yes and no. It is hard to practice foreign languages as an English speaker as people, wanting to be helpful and practice their English, tend to respond to you in English even when you speak the local lingo.I’ve literally said ‘bits and pieces’ and then actually quoted some absolute basics. And also pointed out speaking English makes us all lazy.
Clouds exist, go shout at one.
I had a bad experience when I was working as a waiter in Spain and they were expecting us to know french. I knew a bit so I could interact but I could hear them criticize the others openly. In a somewhat touristy spot in a definitely non touristy areaIf they are in the tourist industry they'd probably speak English. Where we are and within a 200km radius there are few large towns, it's mainly an area of natural beauty, hundreds of medieval villages, lakes, hills and so on. Most people would have Spanish as a second language or occitane, the local patois dialect as we're closer to Spain. On the eastern side ,the Alps, where my wife originates, the second language would be more likely to be Italian. Those actually directly involved in the tourist industry would speak English. My wife spent 32 years in England which is why she is fluent.
I doubt very many French people speak Greek. Question is would they start shouting at the Greeks in French to try to make them understand.
As a generalisation I don't believe the French are very good at other languages and for sure there will be twats of all nationalities. It makes me cringe probably more when there's a British person being obnoxious because someone they are talking to agressively doesn't speak their language because being originally British I want to say, "that person is nothing to do with me!"I had a bad experience when I was working as a waiter in Spain and they were expecting us to know french. I knew a bit so I could interact but I could hear them criticize the others openly. In a somewhat touristy spot in a definitely non touristy area
Being a twat is not exclusivity of one nationality. On the generalization nationality game, I don't think that french will come very well on the twatish department
You’re creepy.
It is.
My condolences.It is.
It's a direct consequence of Brexit.What do we make of UK net migration hitting record highs then?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-65669832
The right wing press are determined to normalise that pathetic, infantile phrase.
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It was a depressing listen this week.Starmer blasting Sunak for not bringing immigration down was soul destroying to watch. The discussion around immigration is so fecked in this country. Starmer complaining there are too many work visa issued is disgraceful.
Also, international students can no longer bring their families over.
Not a bad contract to get for a company of two people.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-63971493
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