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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
The thing is, they have been imploding since 2016 and still keep winning. I doubt the rights or wrongs of this country break of Dominic Cummings (who was probably unknown to a lot of the electorate before this scandal) will be a factor in the 2024 election.
Maybe people think it makes a lot more sense to hold the people accountable who actually run the country and keep fecking up that job, rather than raging at a foreign country over their mistakes? Being angry at China will achieve roughly feck all.
I needed to rob the bank to feed my family. Any responsible parent would have done the same.
"When I said "We'll review those cases" I didn't mean we'll review those cases!"
They’ll hand out free eye tests whilst driving on the NHS
I kind of wish I could believe that, but we're talking about someone in the public eye, who thought they could make a 260 mile trip in lockdown and pretend they didn't, and that no one would notice, and concluded that this wasn't a terrible idea.
I mean, no one could care less what I get up to but if I fecked off to Durham for a couple of weeks, people would probably notice.
There's just no way to spin it that doesn't lead back to the conclusion that Dominic Cummings is a bit of an idiot.
Setting rules and enforcing them for everyone to follow but not following them yourself. That is elitist.
? Which is exactly what he's saying.
It's not a one or the other type situation. You know that right?
Which is what he says.
But in todays letter the labour leader didn't sign right? He's smart.
In a nutshell, I suppose.
It's not what he did, then.....It's all and just about who he is.
But, yes, we knew that already.
well yes of course. He is being demanded to resign and I think that's fair.
You're absolutely right. His actions are irrelevant. It's a witch hunt.
Attempted coup over
It’s less idiotic and more incredibly arrogant, obviously thought he’d get away with it and he wouldn’t even need to explain himself if caught. That said, now he has been caught, I cannot believe the excuse he gave does not have some ulterior motive. He and the people around him cannot be that braindead.
There's a point at which idiocy and arrogance become the same thing and most of the time it's the second you start letting the arrogance dictate your behaviour or judgement.
It's really not that difficult for me to believe they are that braindead seeing as it's the sort of fumbling stupidity that's followed Boris around since, well, ever.
He hasn't ended up prime minister and Cummings hasn't ended up advising him because they are very smart people. They have ended up there because they latched onto a lie in immigration that was easy to sell and appeal to people. It's been quite a while now since British politics has had anything to do with being smart and I feel like all the time when people are analyzing these buffoons, they are looking for layers that just aren't there.
You're talking about people who think they can beat a world wide epidemic with some slogans rather than a plan. Just glorified apprentice contestants.
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This just sounds like ‘it sucks that people kind of suck’. Well yeah, welcome to humanity.
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Aye this is a worrying thought. We know the journalists approached Cummings/Johnson a few weeks back for comment about this issue. Even if Cummings had a subconscious motive to adjust the advice for his own benefit, isn't that enough to be a serious issue?
Good point. Don’t get me wrong I’m not one of these people who buys into the ‘Cummings is a strategic genius’ narratives, and there is no 4D chess going on here. He has been stupid and arrogant. But on the specific point of the excuse about driving to test if he was blind...yeah I’m gonna draw a line there and say he’s not that stupid and assume it was a deflection technique, which judging by the reaction you’d have to concede has worked as well as it could.
People respond more acutely to things they can relate to through personal experience, I don't think that's about not caring its just how the human brain is wired.
I dont know, people seemed pretty outraged about grenfell.
He thinks he is genius. I think he thought the long-winded, outrageous story would confuse and distract from the core facts.
Perhaps he is a genius? I mean he is the one still picking up a hundred grand a year of our tax money for such amazing insights as:
Take back controll
Get brexit done
Stay at home
And
Drive whilst blind
Yes they did and they still do. I don't understand this need for whataboutery on every single subject. It's infantile.
Seems to be that the case, and now with Hancock reviewing (but not reviewing) the fines given to other people. Which just screams of rewriting the rules so much that it reeks. It also doesn't get rid of the anger from people who didn't break lockdown despite missing funerals, birthdays, and so forth, only for them to find out that whilst they were sacrificing these things the same cnut who orchestrated the plan telling them not to was doing it himself.
I just looked at his twitter account and well..... There was huge outrage over Grenfell, and May’s ill-judged reaction helped destroyed what was left of her credibility after the hung parliament election. Although I think May is just awkward and shy rather than sociopathic like her successor.
Lots out of past tense terms being used in regards to Grenfell. Nothing has happened with it, at all, to warrant the change to that tense.
You're either with us or against us!... But you are right, he broke the law.
Fair. I guess part of the outrage for me was the lack of action. Though the entire thing
Bollocks. It’s got nothing to do with political persuasion.
I can’t stand Cummings and despise what he stands for. But that is not the reason why I think this is such an important issue and why people are so angry about it. It’s the fact that people are being treated as mugs that makes them angry. People all over the country have been asked to make drastic sacrifices on a very personal & emotional level by this government. Yet one of the most important figures in government has breached their own rules and now the government is trying to deceive the public again with smoke & mirrors in order to protect his position. It’s dreadful and thankfully this time joe public isn’t falling for it.
This is the same Dominic Cummings who when confronted by an MP about the abuse they were receiving, said to them well you just need to ‘Get Brexit Done’. I must have missed his outrage when all of the MPs were getting daily abuse during the Brexit discussions.